Huge wrote:

DJC wrote:

I've just sold and bought; solicitors may note the absence of all sorts
of paper-work, you then tell them not to bother

You just say "There's no paperwork for 'x'" (FENSA certificates
are the "best" example for that)

Actually FENSA certificates are the worst example for that, because you
can search by postcode/house number whether a certificate was ever
issued and pay to receive a replacement if you care.

and everyone just says "OK" and gets on with their lives.

That's true enough though.

On 19/09/16 13:10, Huge wrote:
On 2016-09-19, Andy Burns wrote:
Huge wrote:

DJC wrote:

I've just sold and bought; solicitors may note the absence of all sorts
of paper-work, you then tell them not to bother

You just say "There's no paperwork for 'x'" (FENSA certificates
are the "best" example for that)

Actually FENSA certificates are the worst example for that, because you
can search by postcode/house number whether a certificate was ever
issued and pay to receive a replacement if you care.

Good grief. Who gives enough of a **** to do that?


The buyer's solicitor in a probate sale I had to oversee...

I think that's the nub - the buyer doesn't care. It's the bloody
solicitors who panic them into whining. In the case of a probate sale
that needs to be done fast (empty property) it was more expedient to go
on the FENSA site and pay and download a copy.

Yes, it's a load of stupid ********.

In exchange for (but wholly unrelated to) my diligence, I had a sale
that missed completion by 2 weeks! Boy, did they pay for that in late
completion penalties! I was *this* close to declaring them in breach of
contract and keeping the deposit.

The point being, they were quite happy to **** about with trivia like
FENSA certs, but could not manage the slightly bigger issue of producing
money on time!

On 19/09/2016 18:04, Tim Watts wrote:

In exchange for (but wholly unrelated to) my diligence, I had a sale
that missed completion by 2 weeks! Boy, did they pay for that in late
completion penalties! I was *this* close to declaring them in breach of
contract and keeping the deposit.

How much are typical late completion penalties?

On 19/09/16 23:00, Clive George wrote:
On 19/09/2016 18:04, Tim Watts wrote:

In exchange for (but wholly unrelated to) my diligence, I had a sale
that missed completion by 2 weeks! Boy, did they pay for that in late
completion penalties! I was *this* close to declaring them in breach of
contract and keeping the deposit.

How much are typical late completion penalties?


Can't remember now, but quite steep.

Hi all

I read this thread with great interest.

I have an outside waterproof double socket which is wired via armoured cable to my consumer unit. I now need another 2 sockets run from this one.

When I called the local building control folks they said that if I did this myself, I would need it checked by a qualified spark. He suggested I just run the 2 sockets on a lead which is plugged in to the existing socket. Since this is regarded as temporary then it was not covered.

My reading of the above and the FAQ is that since 2013 this is no longer required and I am ok to do this. Is this true? TBH I can't quite recall when I spoke with building control but I doubt it was that long ago.

Thanks

Lee.

On 21/09/16 08:52, wrote:
Hi all

I read this thread with great interest.

I have an outside waterproof double socket which is wired via armoured cable to my consumer unit. I now need another 2 sockets run from this one.

When I called the local building control folks they said that if I did this myself, I would need it checked by a qualified spark. He suggested I just run the 2 sockets on a lead which is plugged in to the existing socket. Since this is regarded as temporary then it was not covered.

My reading of the above and the FAQ is that since 2013 this is no longer required and I am ok to do this. Is this true? TBH I can't quite recall when I spoke with building control but I doubt it was that long ago.

Thanks

Lee.


You are correct, they are out of date (if you are in England, not Wales).

On 21/09/2016 08:52, wrote:
Hi all

I read this thread with great interest.

I have an outside waterproof double socket which is wired via
armoured cable to my consumer unit. I now need another 2 sockets run
from this one.

When I called the local building control folks they said that if I
did this myself, I would need it checked by a qualified spark. He
suggested I just run the 2 sockets on a lead which is plugged in to
the existing socket. Since this is regarded as temporary then it was
not covered.

My reading of the above and the FAQ is that since 2013 this is no
longer required and I am ok to do this. Is this true? TBH I can't
quite recall when I spoke with building control but I doubt it was
that long ago.

The current version of the part P approved doc does not include
"outside" as a special location any more. So extension of an existing
circuit would no longer be notifiable.


--
Cheers,

John.

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