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Wing mirror repair?
Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08
Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote:
Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Thank you for that helpful observation. You are a veritable mine of useful information. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting me right. Of course some *useful* information would be considerably more appreciated. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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On 11/09/2016 19:56, Tim+ wrote:
Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Thank you for that helpful observation. You are a veritable mine of useful information. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting me right. Of course some *useful* information would be considerably more appreciated. Tim Mason is a total **** - and a cyclist. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman |
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On Sunday, 11 September 2016 21:36:36 UTC+1, David Lang wrote:
That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Thank you for that helpful observation. You are a veritable mine of useful information. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting me right. Of course some *useful* information would be considerably more appreciated. Tim Mason is a total **** - and a cyclist. Now now, David. You don't want someone dobbing you in to your ISP again, do you? |
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message ... On Sunday, 11 September 2016 21:36:36 UTC+1, David Lang wrote: That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Thank you for that helpful observation. You are a veritable mine of useful information. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting me right. Of course some *useful* information would be considerably more appreciated. Tim Mason is a total **** - and a cyclist. Now now, David. You don't want someone dobbing you in to your ISP again, do you? You actually do that kind of thing? Really? |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:32:31 +0100, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 11 September 2016 21:36:36 UTC+1, David Lang wrote: That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Thank you for that helpful observation. You are a veritable mine of useful information. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for putting me right. Of course some *useful* information would be considerably more appreciated. Tim Mason is a total **** - and a cyclist. Now now, David. You don't want someone dobbing you in to your ISP again, do you? Nobody likes a grassing ****, shall we all come down and slash your tyres? You choose, Alfa or bicycle. -- Barber: "Your hair is getting grey." Customer: "Try cutting a little faster." |
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On 11/09/2016 19:31, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Maybe for you, but if you want to search on eBay there might be a category called wing mirrors, but certainly none on Door mirrors. If you have anything helpful to say................... |
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On Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:12:49 UTC+1, Fredxxx wrote:
On 11/09/2016 19:31, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Maybe for you, but if you want to search on eBay there might be a category called wing mirrors, but certainly none on Door mirrors. If you have anything helpful to say................... I suppose it is the same when I call "shock absorbers" their correct title of dampers, but I DO like to be accurate. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:12:49 UTC+1, Fredxxx wrote: On 11/09/2016 19:31, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Maybe for you, but if you want to search on eBay there might be a category called wing mirrors, but certainly none on Door mirrors. If you have anything helpful to say................... I suppose it is the same when I call "shock absorbers" their correct title of dampers, but I DO like to be accurate. Being a 'left brainer' (focused on detail) is all very well but as mentioned, only when it's not coming across as being pedantic and especially if it doesn't actually help the solution. It matters little if it's a door, wing or interior mirror, just that you offer the OP something that might actually help fix the thing. Same with your 'shock absorbers' ... if that's how they are commonly known then you using a different term, no matter how technically correct, may not help the situation. The only time it might is if the industry refers to something differently and when using a search engine to find replacements or information etc. shrug Cheers, T i m |
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On Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:59:44 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I suppose it is the same when I call "shock absorbers" their correct title of dampers, but I DO like to be accurate. Being a 'left brainer' (focused on detail) is all very well but as mentioned, only when it's not coming across as being pedantic and especially if it doesn't actually help the solution. Ah yes, pedantic is what somebody who doesn't know something calls someone who does! |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 20:59:42 +0100, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 12:16:58 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 20:12:49 UTC+1, Fredxxx wrote: On 11/09/2016 19:31, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Maybe for you, but if you want to search on eBay there might be a category called wing mirrors, but certainly none on Door mirrors. If you have anything helpful to say................... I suppose it is the same when I call "shock absorbers" their correct title of dampers, but I DO like to be accurate. Being a 'left brainer' (focused on detail) Is that the new name for autistic? -- She was as easy as the Daily Star crossword. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 20:12:47 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:
On 11/09/2016 19:31, Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. Maybe for you, but if you want to search on eBay there might be a category called wing mirrors, but certainly none on Door mirrors. If you have anything helpful to say................... If you bought a door mirror it would probably go inside your bedroom door. -- A weekend wasted is not a wasted weekend. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:31:49 +0100, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:41:40 UTC+1, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim That is a door mirror - wing mirrors went out in the 1970's. It's called a WING mirror, that is a simple fact of life, get used to it. -- "Oh god," sighed the wife one morning, "I'm convinced my mind is almost completely gone!" Her husband looked up from the newspaper and commented, "I'm not surprised: You've been giving me a piece of it every day for twenty years!" |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 17:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Tim+
wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. If you can get all the bits off to give yo access to the bare mirror body, I'd think it might be something you could fix with one of the liquid metal epoxy's or even some fibreglass / P45 (or P40, which ever one is the flexible one) or some resin and fibreglass mat / bandage? I'd first wash and dry it thoroughly, remove any paint (Dremell?) where you might like to get some reinforcement to stick and take it from there. Cheers, T i m |
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T i m writes: On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 17:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. If you can get all the bits off to give yo access to the bare mirror body, I'd think it might be something you could fix with one of the liquid metal epoxy's or even some fibreglass / P45 (or P40, which ever one is the flexible one) or some resin and fibreglass mat / bandage? I'd first wash and dry it thoroughly, remove any paint (Dremell?) where you might like to get some reinforcement to stick and take it from there. I presume it's plastic? If you can find a solvent-weld glue for it, that would work. Also, remove the broken-off piece from the car, rather than trying to glue it in-situ. Then, when you refit, put some mudguard (wide) washers under those fixing screws, as that will extend the fixing area to include plastic which didn't break off. I had one kicked off by 3 youths high on crack. I got some entertainment value out of going to watch all the court hearings (which covered lots of vandalism, not just my door mirror). By the time it got to the end of the 6 or so hearings, only one of the three was still going through the process - of the others, one had vanished, and the other was being held on remmand for rape, so didn't get to attend court for the lesser cases anymore. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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T i m writes: Looking at the fractures it looks like some sort of GRP I'd say. If it's GRP, you would use polyester resin (same as in GRP). Some glass fibre matting across the join and impregnated with GRP would also help. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 11-Sep-16 8:19 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Also, remove the broken-off piece from the car, rather than trying to glue it in-situ. And there I was thinking that I used to have the same kitchen worktop as that photo has in it. I'd have used araldite, but I gather the gurus here reckon there's something better now. |
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On 11/09/2016 20:03, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 17:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. If you can get all the bits off to give yo access to the bare mirror body, I'd think it might be something you could fix with one of the liquid metal epoxy's or even some fibreglass / P45 (or P40, which ever one is the flexible one) or some resin and fibreglass mat / bandage? I'd first wash and dry it thoroughly, remove any paint (Dremell?) where you might like to get some reinforcement to stick and take it from there. My thought was 2-part epoxy given the way things have broken, assuming it can be dismantled further. I've not used liquid metal epoxy. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 20:21:24 +0100, Fredxxx wrote:
On 11/09/2016 20:03, T i m wrote: On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 17:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. If you can get all the bits off to give yo access to the bare mirror body, I'd think it might be something you could fix with one of the liquid metal epoxy's or even some fibreglass / P45 (or P40, which ever one is the flexible one) or some resin and fibreglass mat / bandage? I'd first wash and dry it thoroughly, remove any paint (Dremell?) where you might like to get some reinforcement to stick and take it from there. My thought was 2-part epoxy given the way things have broken, assuming it can be dismantled further. Depending on the area that is going to still be in contact, that should be ok. I've not used liquid metal epoxy. It's basically the same as any 2 part epoxy just a lot stronger. ;-) I think it may depend on how the break re-sits and if the epoxy is going to be under the fastenings. If it is I feel the liquid metal type will allow the retaining screws to be fully tightened again. Another thing I've done is put some tape under any holes and just fill the holes (missing plastic?) with epoxy, level with the original surface. Cheers, T i m |
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On 11/09/2016 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim It doesn't look easily repairable to me - but you may be able to pick up a complete mirror assembly at a breakers yard. I was able to do that with my wife's Ford Puma. She hit something with the mirror and broke the glass, and deranged the internals. I bought another one from a breakers yard, but the outer plastic casing was a different colour. Fortunately, our outer case was ok - so I transferred the internals and glass from the new one - and it's now fine. If you google for "Honda Jazz door mirror replacement" you'll find various supply sources for new and used ones, and 'how to' YouTube videos. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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En el artículo , Roger Mills
escribió: I was able to do that with my wife's Ford Puma. She hit something with the mirror and broke the glass, and deranged the internals. I bought another one from a breakers yard, but the outer plastic casing was a different colour. Fortunately, our outer case was ok - so I transferred the internals and glass from the new one - and it's now fine. I did exactly the same with a mate's StreetKa. Ford wanted 150 quid for the assembly - and that was unpainted. Got one (wrong colour) from breaker's and transferred parts (mounting bracket and glass) from that to fix the broken one. As in your case, the outer shell was ok but the mounting bracket to the body was broken. I had to cut through and resolder the wiring loom to do it which was time consuming and fiddly (motorised and heated mirror). The plug shells on the end of the wires were impossible to get off. It all worked ok in the end. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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"Tim+" wrote in message ... Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Must be plenty available from the wreckers. |
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On 11/09/2016 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim Same thing happened to the wife's car (not in Glasgow). Citroen C3, electric mirror. Found a place online wingmirrorman or similar. Greatly surprised that the replacement unit was about £30 delivered. Fitted perfectly. Worth a Google. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman |
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On 11/09/2016 18:41, Tim+ wrote:
Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim wouldn't waste time trying to repair ... buy a 2nd hand one from one of the on-line breakers database (or eBay) Probably get what you want and in the correct colour. such as: http://www.asm-autos.co.uk/used-car-parts.htm https://www.1stchoice.co.uk/ |
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On 11/09/2016 18:41, Tim+ wrote: Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. Tim wouldn't waste time trying to repair ... buy a 2nd hand one from one of the on-line breakers database (or eBay) Odd, that. I thought this group had DIY in the name. Probably get what you want and in the correct colour. such as: http://www.asm-autos.co.uk/used-car-parts.htm https://www.1stchoice.co.uk/ ....at a price. If I can make a good repair for pennies, spending pounds seems foolish. Even secondhand they don't look cheap. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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escribió: If I can make a good repair for pennies, spending pounds seems foolish. You won't be able to do it (make a strong, lasting repair). Even if you do, it'll cost you more in time and effort than grabbing a used one from a breaker. How much is your time worth to you? -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Tim+ escribió: If I can make a good repair for pennies, spending pounds seems foolish. You won't be able to do it (make a strong, lasting repair). Wanna bet? Don't judge others based on your own capabilities. Even if you do, it'll cost you more in time and effort than grabbing a used one from a breaker. Have you looked up the price of folding electric mirrors for Hondas? Besides, it's not work, it's pleasure. Tim -- Please don't feed the trolls |
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En el artículo , Tim+
escribió: Wanna bet? Looking at your pics, yes. Fitting a replacement counts as DIY, you know. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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On 12/09/2016 12:28, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Odd, that. I thought this group had DIY in the name. Taking old one off, and fixing the new one would be DIY |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:02:39 +0100, rick
wrote: On 12/09/2016 12:28, Tim+ wrote: Tim Odd, that. I thought this group had DIY in the name. Taking old one off, and fixing the new one would be DIY Of course it would but I think that comment was aimed at those who felt it couldn't be repaired d-i-y. It's funny how some (as has been mentioned) 'judge others based on their own capabilities' (or lack thereof obviously) and think everything is just down to time and money. ;-( Oh well, whilst we do need left brainers it's probably not here where most thinking is done outside the box. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:41:35 +0100, Tim+ wrote:
Any suggestions as to whether this kind of thing is repairable? From an 08 Honda Jazz. https://www.dropbox.com/s/watv54zzxe...rror.jpeg?dl=1 Knocked off by a scrote in Glasgow. :-( Daughter's car. Rather not spend more than necessary considering that it's going to have to go back to Glasgow. 2nd hand one on Ebay, about £10, fit it yourself? If it keeps happening, fit a camera. -- The only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes. |
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