I have various wooden items in my garden: raised beds, supports for runner
beans, netting frames etc.
The wood I have used was all treated (tanalised?).
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.
Cheers.

On Sunday, 4 September 2016 12:53:21 UTC+1, Lomas wrote:
I have various wooden items in my garden: raised beds, supports for runner
beans, netting frames etc.
The wood I have used was all treated (tanalised?).
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.
Cheers.

All the really good preservatives have been banned.
The bits that really need treating are hidden unless you are prepared to dig them out.
Cuprinol is good (ish) but expensive.
But not as good as it one was.

If your tanalising was done years ago it was good (Arsenic and copper salts.)

Nowadays it is **** (Chromium salts I think.)

On 04/09/2016 12:53, Lomas wrote:

I have various wooden items in my garden: raised beds, supports for runner
beans, netting frames etc.
The wood I have used was all treated (tanalised?).
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.
Cheers.




If you want a decorative finish ... then Sadolin Classic is about as
good as it gets unless you pay for dome very expensive Sikkens products.

For decking - use decking oil.

On Sunday, 4 September 2016 18:01:45 UTC+1, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 4 September 2016 12:53:21 UTC+1, Lomas wrote:
I have various wooden items in my garden: raised beds, supports for runner
beans, netting frames etc.
The wood I have used was all treated (tanalised?).
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.
Cheers.

All the really good preservatives have been banned.
The bits that really need treating are hidden unless you are prepared to dig them out.
Cuprinol is good (ish) but expensive.
But not as good as it one was.

If your tanalising was done years ago it was good (Arsenic and copper salts.)

Nowadays it is **** (Chromium salts I think.)

It's time we formulated our own.
I offer borax, copper powder & used oil. What else could go in?


NT

Lomas Wrote in message:

I have various wooden items in my garden: raised beds, supports for runner
beans, netting frames etc.
The wood I have used was all treated (tanalised?).
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.
Cheers.



Creosote
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 00:15:55 +0100 (GMT+01:00), jim k wrote:

Lomas Wrote in message:
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

Derek wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 00:15:55 +0100 (GMT+01:00), jim k wrote:

Lomas Wrote in message:
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.


Never seemed to do ours any harm.

Tim

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 06:49:45 -0000 (UTC), Tim+
wrote:


Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.


Never seemed to do ours any harm.

How many coats did you put on them?

G.Harman

In article ,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 06:49:45 -0000 (UTC), Tim+
wrote:

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

Never seemed to do ours any harm.

How many coats did you put on them?

Or did you feed it to them? Yes. That myth is crap, and seems to
have been invented to encourage the public to accept the creosote
ban. Like so many things, it is mildly carcinogenic, but is really
only a danger to people who work with it all the time - so the
solution adopted was to ban it for private use. The same was done
for benomyl and many other things.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/biocides/copr/creosote.htm


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 06/09/2016 00:15, jim wrote:
Lomas Wrote in message:

I have various wooden items in my garden: raised beds, supports for runner
beans, netting frames etc.
The wood I have used was all treated (tanalised?).
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.
Cheers.



Creosote



Not on sale to public anymore

On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 13:16:15 UTC+1, rick wrote:
On 06/09/2016 00:15, jim wrote:
Lomas Wrote in message:

What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.

Creosote

Not on sale to public anymore

easy enough to make, but I don't know what the legal position is on that now.


NT

On 06/09/2016 13:20, wrote:
On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 13:16:15 UTC+1, rick wrote:
On 06/09/2016 00:15, jim wrote:
Lomas Wrote in message:

What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated.

Creosote

Not on sale to public anymore

easy enough to make, but I don't know what the legal position is on that now.


Not illegal to use .. just to sell

On 06/09/2016 13:06, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 06:49:45 -0000 (UTC), Tim+
wrote:

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

Never seemed to do ours any harm.

How many coats did you put on them?

Or did you feed it to them? Yes. That myth is crap, and seems to
have been invented to encourage the public to accept the creosote
ban. Like so many things, it is mildly carcinogenic, but is really
only a danger to people who work with it all the time - so the
solution adopted was to ban it for private use. The same was done
for benomyl and many other things.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/biocides/copr/creosote.htm


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


There are also far better products to use than creosote .. it was very
messy to apply and would happily stain clothes months later.

On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:22:05 UTC+1, rick wrote:

Creosote

There are also far better products to use than creosote .. it was very
messy to apply and would happily stain clothes months later.

The only better preservatives I know of are high toxicity arsenic compounds, which aren't appropriate for home use.


NT

A solution of diesel and waste engine oil was supposed to be good for treating timber, probably because of the tars/creosote compounds in the oil. It would be very smelly though. Apparently you can still buy creosote but only in larger quantities from specialist suppliers, not your average hardware store.
You could try scraping some from inside your chimney?

rick wrote:
On 06/09/2016 13:06, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 06:49:45 -0000 (UTC), Tim+
wrote:

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with
some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

Never seemed to do ours any harm.

How many coats did you put on them?

Or did you feed it to them? Yes. That myth is crap, and seems to
have been invented to encourage the public to accept the creosote
ban. Like so many things, it is mildly carcinogenic, but is really
only a danger to people who work with it all the time - so the
solution adopted was to ban it for private use. The same was done
for benomyl and many other things.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/biocides/copr/creosote.htm


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


There are also far better products to use than creosote .. it was very
messy to apply and would happily stain clothes months later.

I used it for the garage loft timbers, the smell wore off after
about 10 years! It also drifted through the house. We told the visitors
it was down to the coal tar soap we used!

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 12:06:56 -0000 (UTC), (Nick
Maclaren) wrote:


Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

That myth is crap, and seems to
have been invented to encourage the public to accept the creosote
ban. Like so many things, it is mildly carcinogenic, but is really
only a danger to people who work with it all the time - so the
solution adopted was to ban it for private use. The same was done
for benomyl and many other things.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/biocides/copr/creosote.htm
Nick Maclaren.

My post was concerning cats and dogs, and not humans
While the avage man in the street would not go round licking freshley
painted fencing, animals will get into contact with it.
I speak from experince, as one of my cats came in frothing at the
mouth, smell of cresote on her fur, we gather she had walked/rubbed on
a freshley treated fence, and then 'TRIED TO LICK IT OFF'

Hence a very quick trip to the vets, who gave her a purge, and then
said the only thing to do was to wash her, and keep on washing, untill
all the trace of smell was removed, but pets have died. Two hours in
the kitchen sink, and the only way we could tell if the cresote had
been removed from her paws, was to suck on her paws to see if we could
taste any residude.

Thankfully our cat survived.

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 7:46:10 AM UTC+1, Derek wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 00:15:55 +0100 (GMT+01:00), jim k wrote:

Lomas Wrote in message:
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

That be better than the powdered glass in a sausage ?

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 1:18:11 PM UTC+1, fred wrote:
On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 7:46:10 AM UTC+1, Derek wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 00:15:55 +0100 (GMT+01:00), jim k wrote:

Lomas Wrote in message:
What treatment would people suggest for not just painting the wood, but soaking
in and protecting it from rotting? Named product recommendations appreciated

Creosote

Creosote is deadly to cats and dogs, proberbly best to stick with some
of the new treatments, and not the 'old' tin in the back of the shed.

That be better than the powdered glass in a sausage ?

Powdered glass may not be dangerous to eat apparently! Try Googling it.
Just an old fiction writer's tale.