I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:37:22 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

I see on the news this morning there has been five stabbings and a death in Russel Square.
The police have said that the perpetrator was mentally deranged.

That was a quick diagnosis!
So, obviously another rabid Muslim.

When will these lefty arseholes get their heads out of the sand?
Islam is a poisonous death cult.

On 04-Aug-16 7:15 AM, harry wrote:

That was a quick diagnosis!

The police have the perp under guard in a hospital. So, the mental
illness diagnosis was presumably confirmed by the crisis MDT.

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

On 04/08/2016 09:46, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 7:15 AM, harry wrote:

That was a quick diagnosis!

The police have the perp under guard in a hospital. So, the mental
illness diagnosis was presumably confirmed by the crisis MDT.

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

He hears voices...


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On Thursday, 4 August 2016 10:23:48 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 04/08/2016 09:46, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 7:15 AM, harry wrote:

That was a quick diagnosis!

The police have the perp under guard in a hospital. So, the mental
illness diagnosis was presumably confirmed by the crisis MDT.

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

He hears voices...

You taking any bets the voices are wrong? :-)

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 10:23:48 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 04/08/2016 09:46, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 7:15 AM, harry wrote:

That was a quick diagnosis!

The police have the perp under guard in a hospital. So, the mental
illness diagnosis was presumably confirmed by the crisis MDT.

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

He hears voices...


John....John...Where are you John?
You've gone very quiet John.

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 09:46:52 UTC+1, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 7:15 AM, harry wrote:

That was a quick diagnosis!

The police have the perp under guard in a hospital. So, the mental
illness diagnosis was presumably confirmed by the crisis MDT.

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

The fact they haven't said it was a white person is enough.
And it wasn't on the BBC this morning.

On 04-Aug-16 5:09 PM, harry wrote:

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

The fact they haven't said it was a white person is enough.

Clearly, anything is enough to satisfy you. People who care even a bit
about the truth are not so easily satisfied.

GB wrote
harry wrote

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

The fact they haven't said it was a white person is enough.

Bet he does have a point there.

Clearly, anything is enough to satisfy you. People who
care even a bit about the truth are not so easily satisfied.

Turns out he isnt a white person.

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 18:08:29 UTC+1, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 5:09 PM, harry wrote:

The perp may also be muslim, but I haven't seen any reports of that.
Where do you get your information from?

The fact they haven't said it was a white person is enough.

Clearly, anything is enough to satisfy you. People who care even a bit
about the truth are not so easily satisfied.

The Beeb has easily recognisable form reporting incidents like this.

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:09:13 -0700, harry wrote:

The fact they haven't said it was a white person is enough.
And it wasn't on the BBC this morning.

Corrosive liquids seem to have become the weapon of choice for young
black youths targeting their white contemporaries - as illustrated by
this vicious, unprovoked attack:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...y-intelligent-
thug-17-left-five-friends-maimed-spraying-chemicals-them.html

En el artículo , Chris
escribió:

Corrosive liquids seem to have become the weapon of choice

[crapectomy]

Oh, lookie, a Daily Heil reader. Someone with a really balanced view
then.

****.

*plonk*

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On 04/08/2016 07:15, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:37:22 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

I see on the news this morning there has been five stabbings and a death in Russel Square.
The police have said that the perpetrator was mentally deranged.

Anyone who believes in a mythical being in the sky is eligible for that
assertion.

On 04/08/16 19:14, Fredxxx wrote:
On 04/08/2016 07:15, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:37:22 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

I see on the news this morning there has been five stabbings and a
death in Russel Square.
The police have said that the perpetrator was mentally deranged.

Anyone who believes in a mythical being in the sky is eligible for that
assertion.

The beeb says he is a Norwegian.

Everyone else says he is a Somali with a Norwegian passport

"Most residents of Somalia are Muslims, the majority belonging to the
Sunni branch of Islam "

Oh well. That's OK then. He is a Norwegian.

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On 04-Aug-16 8:23 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/08/16 19:14, Fredxxx wrote:
On 04/08/2016 07:15, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:37:22 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

I see on the news this morning there has been five stabbings and a
death in Russel Square.
The police have said that the perpetrator was mentally deranged.

Anyone who believes in a mythical being in the sky is eligible for that
assertion.

The beeb says he is a Norwegian.

Everyone else says he is a Somali with a Norwegian passport

"Most residents of Somalia are Muslims, the majority belonging to the
Sunni branch of Islam "

Oh well. That's OK then. He is a Norwegian.



Surely, anyone reasonable would wait to find out the true position
before slurring?

On 04/08/16 21:02, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 8:23 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/08/16 19:14, Fredxxx wrote:
On 04/08/2016 07:15, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:37:22 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

I see on the news this morning there has been five stabbings and a
death in Russel Square.
The police have said that the perpetrator was mentally deranged.

Anyone who believes in a mythical being in the sky is eligible for that
assertion.

The beeb says he is a Norwegian.

Everyone else says he is a Somali with a Norwegian passport

"Most residents of Somalia are Muslims, the majority belonging to the
Sunni branch of Islam "

Oh well. That's OK then. He is a Norwegian.



Surely, anyone reasonable would wait to find out the true position
before slurring?


The true position is he is a Somali with a Norwegian passport.

The beeb knows. Everybody knows. The beeb chose to be economical with
the truth.

Is that so hard to fathom?

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On Thursday, 4 August 2016 21:02:54 UTC+1, GB wrote:
On 04-Aug-16 8:23 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/08/16 19:14, Fredxxx wrote:
On 04/08/2016 07:15, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:37:22 UTC+1, Bill Wright wrote:
I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a
blonde white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they
interviewed three members of the public to ask what they thought about
the terrorists. The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to
think that anyone could be a terrorist and the immigrants are the
victims of terrorism. What a load of arse.

Bill

I see on the news this morning there has been five stabbings and a
death in Russel Square.
The police have said that the perpetrator was mentally deranged.

Anyone who believes in a mythical being in the sky is eligible for that
assertion.

The beeb says he is a Norwegian.

Everyone else says he is a Somali with a Norwegian passport

"Most residents of Somalia are Muslims, the majority belonging to the
Sunni branch of Islam "

Oh well. That's OK then. He is a Norwegian.



Surely, anyone reasonable would wait to find out the true position
before slurring?

We don't have to.
We know how our MSM operates.
Anybody with half a brain can read the signals.
If it was a white person doing the crime, it would be headline news and they would be trumpeting it as "proof" that islam is the religion of peace.

Getting as bad as the old USSR.
In all of the new EUSSR.
Are you brain dead too?

Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that I'd
get shot full of holes.

In my view, Londons police tend toward thinking stereotypically much as you
suggest in your initial post.

Do they really think that people willing to die for whatever warped cause
they think they are representing will care if the place is swaming with
armed police? If they are going to die anyway, where is the difference?

They would be better off having sniffer dogs.
Brian

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I had to laugh. BBC TV news last night, main item was the increase in
anti-terrorist police activity. So they showed the police stopping a blonde
white woman to find out if she was a terrorist and then they interviewed
three members of the public to ask what they thought about the terrorists.
The first two were not white. So the BBC want us to think that anyone could
be a terrorist and the immigrants are the victims of terrorism. What a load
of arse.

Bill

On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!

Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low, though I forget how low. Trouble is
its not the number of times, just oncecan kill somebody.
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On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please talk
to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with
that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!

On 04/08/2016 10:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low, though I forget how low. Trouble is
its not the number of times, just oncecan kill somebody.
Brian


Its not low at all.
Its several thousand times in just one city.

On 04/08/2016 14:07, Martin wrote:
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:42:27 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 04/08/2016 10:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low, though I forget how low. Trouble is
its not the number of times, just oncecan kill somebody.
Brian


Its not low at all.
Its several thousand times in just one city.

1,134 deaths at the hands of law enforcement officers in the USA in 2015


That's deaths not the number of times they shoot their guns.

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 13:42:27 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:

On 04/08/2016 10:56, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low, though I forget how low.
Trouble is
its not the number of times, just oncecan kill somebody.
Brian


Its not low at all.
Its several thousand times in just one city.

when they fire bursts with automatic weapons it soon adds up.

The cops don't do that.

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 10:56:51 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low,

No it;s just that t=some american cops can't count higher than the number of bullets in their gun.


though I forget how low.

it's not low.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/su-...ens-uk-police/

In stark contrast to UK cops, however, just last month, American cops sent 100 people to an early grave.

If this doesnt highlight a serious problem with American police, then nothing will.

In the Land of the Free, police kill at more than 70 times the rate of other first world nations.

whisky-dave wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times
American cops discharged their weapons was quite low,

though I forget how low.

it's not low.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/su-...ens-uk-police/

In stark contrast to UK cops, however, just last month,
American cops sent 100 people to an early grave.

If this doesnt highlight a serious problem with American police, then
nothing will.

In the Land of the Free, police kill at more than 70 times the rate of
other first world nations.

And they see a lot more of the cops killed by the general public than in
other first world countrys too.

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 10:56:51 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low, though I forget how low. Trouble is
its not the number of times, just oncecan kill somebody.
Brian


When many Americans are carrying guns it would make anyone nervous.

On 04/08/2016 17:12, harry wrote:
On Thursday, 4 August 2016 10:56:51 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes I know its been mentioned. Also the number of times American cops
discharged their weapons was quite low, though I forget how low. Trouble is
its not the number of times, just oncecan kill somebody.
Brian


When many Americans are carrying guns it would make anyone nervous.

How far into a crowd do you suppose a truck driver intent on murder
would have got in Texas rather than Nice?



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On Thursday, 4 August 2016 09:14:31 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!

Maybe they should be sent on anger managment courses like they send those on road rage attend ;-)

lid posted
On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!


********. They fired a lot more than that into Charles de Menezes' head.

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Big Les Wade wrote
lid wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police
said, we don't want people to be frightened of us, we are
approachable please talk to us, yeah right, itf you are female and
blonde you might get away with that, but I'd be worried if I looked
aribic and wandered up toward one that I'd get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more
last year than any previous years? They did it seven times!

********. They fired a lot more than that into Charles de Menezes' head.

Nope, just 7 and one into his shoulder. And a total of 11 shots fired.

Dennis has ****ed it up completely, as always.

On 05/08/2016 06:17, Big Les Wade wrote:
lid posted
On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please
talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with
that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that
I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last
year than any previous years? They did it seven times!


********. They fired a lot more than that into Charles de Menezes' head.


I didn't say they fired only seven shots!
Incidents!

On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:21:14 +0100
dennis@home wrote:
On 05/08/2016 06:17, Big Les Wade wrote:
lid posted
On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please
talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with
that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that
I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last
year than any previous years? They did it seven times!


********. They fired a lot more than that into Charles de Menezes' head.


I didn't say they fired only seven shots!
Incidents!

Wow, a whole 7 times. Wonder how many times police used their guns in the USA
in a year? Its a pity our police don't shoot scum a bit more often like they
did to that gangster in his car that got all the ghetto rats upset.

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dennis@home wrote
Big Les Wade wrote
dennis@home wrote
Brian Gaff wrote

Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please
talk to us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get
away with that, but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up
toward one that I'd get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!

********. They fired a lot more than that into Charles de Menezes' head.

I didn't say they fired only seven shots!

Everyone can see for themselves that that is precisely what you did say.

Incidents!

Still doesn’t fly.

We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we. It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this
then the things the security services would find out would be more than now
when they seem to end up with a body.
There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?
I just wonder if, much like has happened in Ireland if you attempt to
engage with thee people and see what would satisfy them you end up with two
groups, one lot are genuinely feeling disenfranchised, and the other are
basically criminals and thugs who use others to get their way.
Brian

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:14:30 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:

On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please
talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with
that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that
I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!

In Leiden last week the police almost did the same in one event, the
target an
armed man is in intensive care with six bullet holes in him,
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On 04/08/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we.

Dropping a net on them is good

It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this
then the things the security services would find out would be more than now
when they seem to end up with a body.

Bodies save public money.


There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?

You shoot them first.

I just wonder if, much like has happened in Ireland if you attempt to
engage with thee people and see what would satisfy them you end up with two
groups, one lot are genuinely feeling disenfranchised, and the other are
basically criminals and thugs who use others to get their way.
Brian


well yes.

Look its not just Islam. basically people are bored, out of work,
alienated and resentful of all the advertising featuring people who have
a better time than they do seemingly. Look at Plow****. Sense of
entitlement, chips on both shoulders and up his arse as well. Typical
violent anti-social behaviour material.

It's a combination of consumerism and socialism or Islamism.

Its a natural reaction to too many people and not enough things to
occupy them.

People start hating and killing each other. Who does what depends on the
marketing around. Right now its hard left and Islam that are basically
doing the hate crime bit. And the anti-semitism bit.

With the odd hard right like Breivik on the other side.

It will go on until enough people have died that people get bored with it.



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rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet
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On Thursday, 4 August 2016 11:15:39 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/08/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we.

Dropping a net on them is good

kicking them in the balls with steel toecaped boots might work.
I'll find a student to test my theory ;-)
Good for DIY too. (the boots/shoes).

I thought tasers worked reasonably well.



It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this
then the things the security services would find out would be more than now
when they seem to end up with a body.

Bodies save public money.

unless they sue.


There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?

You shoot them first.

Yeah before they get a chance to write a suicide note



Look its not just Islam. basically people are bored, out of work,

Don;t forget as a muslim you're not allowed to wank, listen to or join in music, you're not allowed sport which is where most of 'our' primiative aggression is dissipated via sport and politic and verbal comunication.
Muslims aren't allowed to be gay, there's little muslim art just their culture.
You can't even get ****ed to help forget you're troubles.

alienated and resentful of all the advertising featuring people who have
a better time than they do seemingly.

Yep like the catholic that's not allowed to have sex with women.....


It's a combination of consumerism and socialism or Islamism.

It's jelousy and the fear of what might happen if anyone should think they aren;t good muslims.


Its a natural reaction to too many people and not enough things to
occupy them.

People start hating and killing each other. Who does what depends on the
marketing around. Right now its hard left and Islam that are basically
doing the hate crime bit. And the anti-semitism bit.

I thought racism was more right wing, but I think in the 21st century we'll find right wing, left wing means as little as a chicken wing from a bucket from a 5th rate chicken shop.

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 04/08/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we.

Dropping a net on them is good

It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this
then the things the security services would find out would be more than now
when they seem to end up with a body.

Bodies save public money.


There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?

You shoot them first.

I just wonder if, much like has happened in Ireland if you attempt to
engage with thee people and see what would satisfy them you end up with two
groups, one lot are genuinely feeling disenfranchised, and the other are
basically criminals and thugs who use others to get their way.
Brian


well yes.

Look its not just Islam. basically people are bored, out of work,
alienated and resentful of all the advertising featuring people who have
a better time than they do seemingly. Look at Plow****. Sense of
entitlement, chips on both shoulders and up his arse as well. Typical
violent anti-social behaviour material.

It's a combination of consumerism and socialism or Islamism.

Its a natural reaction to too many people and not enough things to
occupy them.

People start hating and killing each other. Who does what depends on the
marketing around. Right now its hard left and Islam that are basically
doing the hate crime bit. And the anti-semitism bit.

With the odd hard right like Breivik on the other side.

It will go on until enough people have died that people get bored with it.

You miss out the drone operators. Being corporate and organised doesn't
absolve them from having basically the same intentions.



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Roger Hayter

Brian Gaff wrote

We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we.

Just as true of shooting them. Tasers are about as effective.

It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this then the things the
security services would find out would be more than now when they seem to
end up with a body.

There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?

By making it a lot harder for them to kill themselves and to
take others with them. We do that quite effectively with aircraft.

I just wonder if, much like has happened in Ireland if you attempt to
engage with thee people and see what would satisfy them you end up with
two groups, one lot are genuinely feeling disenfranchised, and the other
are basically criminals and thugs who use others to get their way.

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:14:30 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:

On 04/08/2016 08:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
Actually, one other funny last night was one of the new police said, we
don't want people to be frightened of us, we are approachable please
talk to
us, yeah right, itf you are female and blonde you might get away with
that,
but I'd be worried if I looked aribic and wandered up toward one that
I'd
get shot full of holes.

You do know that the UK police fired their guns in anger more last year
than any previous years? They did it seven times!

In Leiden last week the police almost did the same in one event, the
target an
armed man is in intensive care with six bullet holes in him,
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Martin in Zuid Holland

On 04/08/2016 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we. It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this
then the things the security services would find out would be more than now
when they seem to end up with a body.
There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?
I just wonder if, much like has happened in Ireland if you attempt to
engage with thee people and see what would satisfy them you end up with two
groups, one lot are genuinely feeling disenfranchised, and the other are
basically criminals and thugs who use others to get their way.
Brian

The security forces do have Tasers available.

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Brian Gaff wrote:

We still have not found a way to instantly incapacitate a person without
killing them have we. It seems to me that if a way could be found to do this
then the things the security services would find out would be more than now
when they seem to end up with a body.
There is no real answer to people willing to kill themselves who seem to
also think that being dead is good even for the victim. How can you fight
such a belief?
I just wonder if, much like has happened in Ireland if you attempt to
engage with thee people and see what would satisfy them you end up with two
groups, one lot are genuinely feeling disenfranchised, and the other are
basically criminals and thugs who use others to get their way.
Brian

Recently it has become clear that a large proportion of terrorists on
the ground are criminals and thugs who are aggrieved with society and
don't much care what happens to them as long as they can feel important
and kill people. Your clever criminals presumably take advantage of
them.



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Roger Hayter