End of the Labour party?
Annihilated at the next election?

On 29/06/2016 00:38, bm wrote:

End of the Labour party?

Careful, you will get Blair back again with a "New new new can't believe
its not butter" labour party.

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On 29/06/2016 00:38, bm wrote:

End of the Labour party?

Careful, you will get Blair back again with a "New new new can't believe
its not butter" labour party.

On 29/06/16 00:38, bm wrote:
End of the Labour party?
Annihilated at the next election?


Brexit. The gift that keeps on giving.


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On 29/06/16 03:08, John Rumm wrote:
On 29/06/2016 00:38, bm wrote:

End of the Labour party?

Careful, you will get Blair back again with a "New new new can't believe
its not butter" labour party.

Until you taste it anyway.


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let them."

On 29/06/16 03:16, bm wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 29/06/2016 00:38, bm wrote:

End of the Labour party?

Careful, you will get Blair back again with a "New new new can't believe
its not butter" labour party.



Actually there's a horrible sort of thing there. Blair could organise
EUROPEAN socialist party, and get EU funding to do it.

Lets face it that utter **** Corbyn is only where he is because of UNITE




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important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
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bm wrote:
End of the Labour party?
Annihilated at the next election?




Corbyn's their only hope. Pro Brexit and limiting immigration.

What is the Labour party?
We need to have a better semi communist party I think, and a labour party
who are in fact slightly left of t the conservatives.
Actually we need to find some people who are not using unproven dogma of
any kind to make decisions.
Brian

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End of the Labour party?
Annihilated at the next election?

On 29/06/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
What is the Labour party?
We need to have a better semi communist party I think, and a labour party
who are in fact slightly left of t the conservatives.
Actually we need to find some people who are not using unproven dogma of
any kind to make decisions.

They aren't Brian.

They are using unproven dogma to baffle the brains of people who fancy
themselves to be more than they are.


They make decisions based entirely on naked self interest.

Brian



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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 29/06/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
What is the Labour party?
We need to have a better semi communist party I think, and a labour party
who are in fact slightly left of t the conservatives.
Actually we need to find some people who are not using unproven dogma
of
any kind to make decisions.

They aren't Brian.

They are using unproven dogma to baffle the brains of people who fancy
themselves to be more than they are.


They make decisions based entirely on naked self interest.

The big prob is that they ALL do the same.
Pretty much every last one of'em.
Human nature, sadly.
How we get a guvmint actually for the people, I have no idea.

On Wednesday, 29 June 2016 12:23:18 UTC+1, bm wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 29/06/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
What is the Labour party?
We need to have a better semi communist party I think, and a labour party
who are in fact slightly left of t the conservatives.
Actually we need to find some people who are not using unproven dogma
of
any kind to make decisions.

They aren't Brian.

They are using unproven dogma to baffle the brains of people who fancy
themselves to be more than they are.


They make decisions based entirely on naked self interest.

The big prob is that they ALL do the same.
Pretty much every last one of'em.
Human nature, sadly.
How we get a guvmint actually for the people, I have no idea.

It's a disease called DKE.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect

On 29/06/16 12:23, bm wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 29/06/16 11:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
What is the Labour party?
We need to have a better semi communist party I think, and a labour party
who are in fact slightly left of t the conservatives.
Actually we need to find some people who are not using unproven dogma
of
any kind to make decisions.

They aren't Brian.

They are using unproven dogma to baffle the brains of people who fancy
themselves to be more than they are.


They make decisions based entirely on naked self interest.

The big prob is that they ALL do the same.
Pretty much every last one of'em.
Human nature, sadly.
How we get a guvmint actually for the people, I have no idea.


you design a system that means that their naked self interest coincides
with the will of the people.

Its called democracy.

And will always be the first thing they will want to get rid of once elected


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In message , Brian Gaff
writes
We need to have a labour party who are in fact slightly left of t the
conservatives.

I remember them. They used to call themselves the Liberals.
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Bill

Bill wrote:

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
We need to have a labour party who are in fact slightly left of t the
conservatives.

I remember them. They used to call themselves the Liberals.

I think you mean Social Democratic Party (1981)

looks as if it could be resurrecting again ;(

On 29/06/16 23:51, Mark wrote:
Bill wrote:

In message , Brian Gaff
writes
We need to have a labour party who are in fact slightly left of t the
conservatives.

I remember them. They used to call themselves the Liberals.

I think you mean Social Democratic Party (1981)

looks as if it could be resurrecting again ;(

No, the SDP were a bunch of lefty****s who didnt agree with the hard left.

It may happen again. Labour party splits ion two between a bunch of
almost honest completely unelectable Marxists, and a bunch of totally
dishonest Guardian reading almost unelectable champagne socialists.

Leaving the working class to UKIP.

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