On 29/06/2016 00:18, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:43 +0100, Capitol wrote:

Opinion.

True, but yours is no more.




Agreed Bob.

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Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:07:43 +0100, Capitol wrote:


Bob Eager wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:35:34 +0100, Capitol wrote:



The Natural Philosopher wrote:


On 28/06/16 14:17, Bob Eager wrote:


On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:06:23 +0100, pamela wrote:



On 13:49 28 Jun 2016, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:



In ,
wrote:


It's sad really because, like him or loath him, Farage has tended
to be more grounded in accurate facts and figures than many other
leave campaigners.


I wonder what possessed him that day. Perhaps he intended to
make a point about the immense cost to the UK national psyche of
some intangible like sovereignty. Or maybe he had estimated some
colossal cost from implementing EU inspired legislation. Bless
him.


And have you heard his performance in the EU parliament today?
No wonder Turnip idolises him. All that was missing was the C
word.


Why do you call him "Turnip"? You may disagree with his views and
you may dislike him but calling him names seems a bit petty.

Yes, I did see Farage at the EU parliament today. It was quite a
robust performance and, predictably enough, wasn't well received. I
expect he intends to be a thorn in their flesh for as long as
possible.


At least he turned up this time.



His attendance record is better than Nick Cleggs ever was.







He's also achieved infinitely more than Clegg


In a bad way.






Opinion.

True, but yours is no more.





But it is positive, not a losers whine!

In article . com,
bm wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
pamela wrote:
His wider view that the EU simply can not not impose tarrifs on
various other goods without cutting off its nose to spite its face
may also be misplaced. Farage's real understanding of markets is
as a successful City metals trader but not as an international
trade agreement negotiator many of whom disagree with him on this
crucial point.

Well, he was perfectly happy to see the UK cut off its nose to spite its
face - so he's now worried about the EU doing the same?

It really is pie in the sky to behave extremely badly towards the EU -
then expect it to treat us well afterwards.

He was great and has the balls to say it how it is.

He had 'the balls' to say what you wanted to hear. Exactly the same as the
press do to sell papers.

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. If someone is on your side for
something, they must then be your friend in everything.


Corbyn doing ok for you, Dave?

You think I'm a Corbyn supporter? Of course that fits your profile. If you
know Farage for the evil man he is, you must automatically support Corbyn.

Marvellous.

Now burst into song.

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*You sound reasonable......time to up my medication

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article . com,
bm wrote:
It rather confirms my suspicions. He has no interest in the UK at all.
His main aim is to bring down the EU. And I've no idea why.

At least it's easier to see how Boris's mind works.

The large ego's in the EU NEED bringing down FFS. Who the hell do they
think they are, dictating rules.

The UK government agreed to all those rules. Regardless of what you may
think about them. But I doubt you've even looked at any.

And one of those rules is you evoke article 50 to leave.
The reason it wasn't the day after the result was that even the most
stupid of our policians realise there is no plan for what comes afterwards.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
bm wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
pamela wrote:
His wider view that the EU simply can not not impose tarrifs on
various other goods without cutting off its nose to spite its face
may also be misplaced. Farage's real understanding of markets is
as a successful City metals trader but not as an international
trade agreement negotiator many of whom disagree with him on this
crucial point.

Well, he was perfectly happy to see the UK cut off its nose to spite
its
face - so he's now worried about the EU doing the same?

It really is pie in the sky to behave extremely badly towards the EU -
then expect it to treat us well afterwards.

He was great and has the balls to say it how it is.

He had 'the balls' to say what you wanted to hear. Exactly the same as the
press do to sell papers.

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. If someone is on your side for
something, they must then be your friend in everything.


Corbyn doing ok for you, Dave?

You think I'm a Corbyn supporter? Of course that fits your profile. If you
know Farage for the evil man he is, you must automatically support Corbyn.

Marvellous.

Now burst into song.

I'm prepared to listen to (and process) all sides of a story, you appear to
be rigid left come what may.
I suppose someone has to be.
Chill, Dave. It'll all be fine in the end.

In article om,
bm wrote:
I'm prepared to listen to (and process) all sides of a story, you appear
to be rigid left come what may. I suppose someone has to be. Chill,
Dave. It'll all be fine in the end.

You tell me to chill and start all those threads about Wodney? ;-)

BTW, what do you mean by rigid left?

Against BREXIT? Meaning Cameron is also rigid left?

Against Farage? Meaning pretty well all of the leave campaign too, given
they near ostracised him?

Or do you merely think it an insult. If so, fair enough. I'm not insulted.
Just puts you firmly in with Turnip and his lefty****.

If you want to insult me, call me a Farage fan. That really is an insult
to everything decent.

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*I started out with nothing... and I still have most of it.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
bm wrote:
It rather confirms my suspicions. He has no interest in the UK at all.
His main aim is to bring down the EU. And I've no idea why.

At least it's easier to see how Boris's mind works.

The large ego's in the EU NEED bringing down FFS. Who the hell do they
think they are, dictating rules.

The UK government agreed to all those rules. Regardless of what you may
think about them. But I doubt you've even looked at any.

The biggest mistake was to join in the first place although actually the
original EEC was a good idea.
The ego tripsters who wanted to expand and be in charge screwed it.
Strangely I haven't met anyone who admits to voting for it back then.

And one of those rules is you evoke article 50 to leave.
The reason it wasn't the day after the result was that even the most
stupid of our policians realise there is no plan for what comes
afterwards.

Of course, who'd have thunk that would be the result. Since it has it's a
golden opportunity to sort ourselves out.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:10:18 +0100, bm wrote:

The biggest mistake was to join in the first place although actually the
original EEC was a good idea.

So it was a good idea, but it was a mistake to join?

The ego tripsters who wanted to expand and be in charge screwed it.

Well, you voted for them... Both in General Elections and in European
Elections.

You did vote, didn't you?

Strangely I haven't met anyone who admits to voting for it back then.

Bear in mind that nobody under 59 could possibly have voted back then...
Yet 2/3 of those who were eligible to vote, voted. And 2/3 of those who
DID vote voted for it. So, on average, damn near half of those in their
sixties and older will have voted for membership.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:16:47 +0000, Adrian wrote:

Strangely I haven't met anyone who admits to voting for it back then.

Bear in mind that nobody under 59 could possibly have voted back then...
Yet 2/3 of those who were eligible to vote, voted. And 2/3 of those who
DID vote voted for it. So, on average, damn near half of those in their
sixties and older will have voted for membership.

Oh, and only one in five voted against...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article om,
bm wrote:
I'm prepared to listen to (and process) all sides of a story, you appear
to be rigid left come what may. I suppose someone has to be. Chill,
Dave. It'll all be fine in the end.

You tell me to chill and start all those threads about Wodney? ;-)

BTW, what do you mean by rigid left?

Against BREXIT? Meaning Cameron is also rigid left?

Against Farage? Meaning pretty well all of the leave campaign too, given
they near ostracised him?

Or do you merely think it an insult. If so, fair enough. I'm not insulted.
Just puts you firmly in with Turnip and his lefty****.

If you want to insult me, call me a Farage fan. That really is an insult
to everything decent.

I'm a Farage fan but couldn't eat a whole one.
I think he's just in the right place, he says what he thinks, stirs the ****
and will never be in power (please god).

"Adrian" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:10:18 +0100, bm wrote:

The biggest mistake was to join in the first place although actually the
original EEC was a good idea.

So it was a good idea, but it was a mistake to join?

T'was fine'ish to join under the original rules.

The ego tripsters who wanted to expand and be in charge screwed it.

Well, you voted for them... Both in General Elections and in European
Elections.

You did vote, didn't you?

That's the prob, the guvmint kept getting in deeper.

Strangely I haven't met anyone who admits to voting for it back then.

Bear in mind that nobody under 59 could possibly have voted back then...
Yet 2/3 of those who were eligible to vote, voted. And 2/3 of those who
DID vote voted for it. So, on average, damn near half of those in their
sixties and older will have voted for membership.

Not this one.

On 29/06/16 13:15, bm wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
bm wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
pamela wrote:
His wider view that the EU simply can not not impose tarrifs on
various other goods without cutting off its nose to spite its face
may also be misplaced. Farage's real understanding of markets is
as a successful City metals trader but not as an international
trade agreement negotiator many of whom disagree with him on this
crucial point.

Well, he was perfectly happy to see the UK cut off its nose to spite
its
face - so he's now worried about the EU doing the same?

It really is pie in the sky to behave extremely badly towards the EU -
then expect it to treat us well afterwards.

He was great and has the balls to say it how it is.

He had 'the balls' to say what you wanted to hear. Exactly the same as the
press do to sell papers.

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. If someone is on your side for
something, they must then be your friend in everything.


Corbyn doing ok for you, Dave?

You think I'm a Corbyn supporter? Of course that fits your profile. If you
know Farage for the evil man he is, you must automatically support Corbyn.

Marvellous.

Now burst into song.

I'm prepared to listen to (and process) all sides of a story, you appear to
be rigid left come what may.
I suppose someone has to be.
Chill, Dave. It'll all be fine in the end.


No it wont. He will die .


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let them."

On 29/06/16 15:16, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:10:18 +0100, bm wrote:

The biggest mistake was to join in the first place although actually the
original EEC was a good idea.

So it was a good idea, but it was a mistake to join?

The ego tripsters who wanted to expand and be in charge screwed it.

Well, you voted for them... Both in General Elections and in European
Elections.

You did vote, didn't you?

Strangely I haven't met anyone who admits to voting for it back then.

Bear in mind that nobody under 59 could possibly have voted back then...
Yet 2/3 of those who were eligible to vote, voted. And 2/3 of those who
DID vote voted for it. So, on average, damn near half of those in their
sixties and older will have voted for membership.

Not me squire. Thought all politics sucked and all politicians were
liars but I didn't figure them to be as stupid as they turned out to be


--
"Women actually are capable of being far more than the feminists will
let them."

Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:10:18 +0100, bm wrote:


The biggest mistake was to join in the first place although actually the
original EEC was a good idea.

So it was a good idea, but it was a mistake to join?


The ego tripsters who wanted to expand and be in charge screwed it.

Well, you voted for them... Both in General Elections and in European
Elections.

You did vote, didn't you?


Strangely I haven't met anyone who admits to voting for it back then.

Bear in mind that nobody under 59 could possibly have voted back then...
Yet 2/3 of those who were eligible to vote, voted. And 2/3 of those who
DID vote voted for it. So, on average, damn near half of those in their
sixties and older will have voted for membership.


Thet were conned by the government of the day. Then sold out by Major.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
bm wrote

It rather confirms my suspicions. He has no interest in the UK at all.
His main aim is to bring down the EU. And I've no idea why.

At least it's easier to see how Boris's mind works.

The large ego's in the EU NEED bringing down FFS.
Who the hell do they think they are, dictating rules.

The UK government agreed to all those rules.

Like hell it did.

Regardless of what you may think about them.
But I doubt you've even looked at any.

And one of those rules is you evoke article 50 to leave.

But it say nothing about when that has to be done.

The reason it wasn't the day after the result was
that even the most stupid of our policians realise
there is no plan for what comes afterwards.

Even sillier than you usually manage. The reason it wasn’t
invoked the day after the result was because Cameron
announced that he would be resigning and quite rightly
said that whoever will replace him should be deciding
the detail on how Britain leaves the EU. It would make
absolutely no sense for a remainer like Cameron to do that.

And they have a plan for what comes afterwards, get
the best result possible with an agreement with the
EU and if the EU chooses to proclaim that the 4
principles are non negotiable, make an obscene
gesture in the general direction of the EU and trade
under the WTO rules like all of the USA, China, India,
Taiwan, Australia, Canada etc etc etc all do right now.