I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

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scribeth thus
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do
not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until
we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this
problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is
definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a
problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see
my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water
pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have
read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a
pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run
the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.


Yes you should not have that sort of thing in there. If its in their
pipes then they should fix it but even if you have olde lead pipes it
shouldn't do that!.

I'd have them to come and check the water purity and have a look at the
pressure whilst there...
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I'd most certainly get the supplier to test it to see what these are. You
say not affected by a magnet, but they could still be a kind of rust, it
very much depends on how oxidised they are when testing them with a magnet.
You do not mention size.
Brian

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I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They
do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking
water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does
not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising
main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We
have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump
water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water
pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I
have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when
there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always
run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

If you have lead pipes, the water main is very likely cast iron.
Over the years these fill up with scabby rust/corrosion/limescale/other crap.
(Also reducing the bore of the pipe and water pressure)
The chlorine and oxygen in the water attacks the iron
If non-magnetic, it's probably limescale contaminated with a bit of rust.
To confirm, put the bits in vinegar and see if they dissolve.
Harmless but unsightly.

On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

I will see if the bits dissolve in vinegar as suggested. I am waiting for a call from the water quality office. I will report back when I know more. Thanks for info so far.

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On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally.
They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our
drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The
neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far
as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We
have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to
pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination?
Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped
AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in
contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have
always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

I will see if the bits dissolve in vinegar as suggested. I am waiting for
a call from the water quality office. I will report back when I know
more. Thanks for info so far.


Do you have any steel pipework in your water system? We had a problem with
stainless steel pipework rusting internally near the HW tank.

Tim

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On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

No steel pipework as far as I know

On Monday, 25 April 2016 19:52:52 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
In article ,
scribeth thus
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do
not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until
we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this
problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is
definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a
problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see
my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water
pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have
read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a
pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run
the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.


Yes you should not have that sort of thing in there. If its in their
pipes then they should fix it but even if you have olde lead pipes it
shouldn't do that!.

I'd have them to come and check the water purity and have a look at the
pressure whilst there...

The water supplier will not want to know so it is best to presume from the outset that they are going to deny everything at the reception desk. Your first complaints for example will not be replied to next there will be obfuscation.

If you get good service there will be someone visiting your house within the week. So take that as the starting point for bad service. (It could get worse! If a certain ill favoured regular poster gets the contract. It could get a (lot more) lot worse. (Don't bother thank you!! worse.))

I doubt a company that big has changed much since Thatcher but I may be wrong. In North Wales whole sections of its largest town had the problem for decades and still has it as far as I know.

How often do you have to replace tap washers?
Your problem is compounded by the fact that you don't know who is responsible and won't find out without expense. Is it possible to put inline filters on all your present taps?

How have you kept it out of the boiler?

I imagine a number of the taps could use replacement. If you have 6 months supply of detritus to be used as evidence then you may have a claim for dropping your bill or even parts and labour.

Now that the local council no longer is a party against you you might try asking their technical department if they can help. But unless you are going to do the work yourself, I think you will be looking at substantial expenses just inside the house.

Can anyone give some idea of the cost of re-piping an house these days?
Good luck.

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No steel pipework as far as I know


Are the particles in your mains supply or just in water from your tank?

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I'd have them to come and check the water purity and have a look at the
pressure whilst there...

The water supplier will not want to know so it is best to presume from the
outset that they are going to deny everything at the reception desk. Your first
complaints for example will not be replied to next there will be obfuscation.


Ours did, they came and took samples and were rather concerned. This was
only a couple of years ago now....



If you get good service there will be someone visiting your house within the
week. So take that as the starting point for bad service. (It could get worse!
If a certain ill favoured regular poster gets the contract. It could get a (lot
more) lot worse. (Don't bother thank you!! worse.))

I doubt a company that big has changed much since Thatcher but I may be wrong.
In North Wales whole sections of its largest town had the problem for decades
and still has it as far as I know.

How often do you have to replace tap washers?
Your problem is compounded by the fact that you don't know who is responsible
and won't find out without expense. Is it possible to put inline filters on all
your present taps?

How have you kept it out of the boiler?

I imagine a number of the taps could use replacement. If you have 6 months
supply of detritus to be used as evidence then you may have a claim for dropping
your bill or even parts and labour.

Now that the local council no longer is a party against you you might try asking
their technical department if they can help. But unless you are going to do the
work yourself, I think you will be looking at substantial expenses just inside
the house.

Can anyone give some idea of the cost of re-piping an house these days?
Good luck.


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On 25/04/16 12:58, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally.

Insect eggs? Happened to a work colleague. Massive Ladybird infestation
near their water tank ...

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On Friday, 29 April 2016 21:15:39 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
I'd have them to come and check the water purity and have a look at the
pressure whilst there...

The water supplier will not want to know so it is best to presume from the
outset that they are going to deny everything at the reception desk. Your first
complaints for example will not be replied to next there will be obfuscation.


Ours did, they came and took samples and were rather concerned. This was
only a couple of years ago now....

So any day now, eh?
Have you been waiting-in long?

In article ,
Weatherlawyer scribeth thus
On Friday, 29 April 2016 21:15:39 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
I'd have them to come and check the water purity and have a look at the
pressure whilst there...

The water supplier will not want to know so it is best to presume from the
outset that they are going to deny everything at the reception desk. Your
first
complaints for example will not be replied to next there will be obfuscation.


Ours did, they came and took samples and were rather concerned. This was
only a couple of years ago now....

So any day now, eh?
Have you been waiting-in long?


Shirly you can do better than that?...
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On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

They took the sample last Friday. Waiting for the results which they said could take up to 10 days.

On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

Gave us a 2 hr slot and turned up on time.

Have you had any plumbing work done? I get green bits of (probably) solder stuck in the ball
cock valve in the loft carried up by the water, these make it leak.
This is 35 years after the plumber was last in the house and before I moved in.

On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally. They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination? Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

No but the shower pump is vibrating on start up - see other thread. Can't see a path back to the rising main for any debris though as it's fed from the CW tank.

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On Monday, 25 April 2016 12:58:47 UTC+1, wrote:
I get particles in my water supply. They are orange or black generally.
They do not appear to be affected by a magnet. We are filtering our
drinking water until we can sort it out and using bottled water. The
neighbour does not have this problem. We have a lead service pipe as far
as I know - rising main is definitely lead in the kitchen. House is Edwardian.
I did wander if the particles were coming from the internal pipework. We
have a problem with the shower pump running roughly until it starts to
pump water - see my other thread.
Should I ask our water supplier Severn Trent about the contamination?
Water pressure has never been great but doesn't seem to have dropped
AFAIK. I have read that a leaking service pipe is able to draw in
contaminants when there is a pulse in pressure.
My priority is to know if the water is still good to drink. We have
always run the cold tap for a minute
first thing or after some hours.

No but the shower pump is vibrating on start up - see other thread. Can't
see a path back to the rising main for any debris though as it's fed from the CW tank.


Can't be bothered. Try quoting correctly.

Tim

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