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On 13/04/16 11:07, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
On 12/04/2016 23:06, Capitol wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. We did also used his collection of FLAC(?) and WAV files (purchased not CD Rips) Well really. You look a a test CD with a 1khz sine wave on it, or a test CD with a square wave on it, and compare with vinyl! Don't make me larf Capitol. MP3 is of course another kettle of fish. -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote. |
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Capitol wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. -- *My designated driver drove me to drink Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/04/16 11:07, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 12/04/2016 23:06, Capitol wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. We did also used his collection of FLAC(?) and WAV files (purchased not CD Rips) Well really. You look a a test CD with a 1khz sine wave on it, or a test CD with a square wave on it, and compare with vinyl! Don't make me larf Capitol. MP3 is of course another kettle of fish. A 1kHz sine wave on a cd would be useless. You'd have to use square waves to see where the distortion was. As the human ear can detect a difference in arrival time between ears of about 1uS, my comments are valid. Wireless World testing in the 60s. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In articlec4qdnY4mzPAh7pDKnZ2dnUU78VPNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. Live music, without amplifiers. |
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Capitol wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 13/04/16 11:07, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote: On 12/04/2016 23:06, Capitol wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. We did also used his collection of FLAC(?) and WAV files (purchased not CD Rips) Well really. You look a a test CD with a 1khz sine wave on it, or a test CD with a square wave on it, and compare with vinyl! Don't make me larf Capitol. MP3 is of course another kettle of fish. A 1kHz sine wave on a cd would be useless. You'd have to use square waves to see where the distortion was. As the human ear can detect a difference in arrival time between ears of about 1uS, my comments are valid. Wireless World testing in the 60s. Wireless World were testing CDs in the 60s? -- *Born free...Taxed to death. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 10:04:11 +0100, Capitol wrote:
Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 23:06:00 +0100, wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. I have the solution: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0b/ca/ fb/0bcafb63a8c5b7ecc15c469774df772d.jpg Thomas Prufer Looks a winner! Yeahbut, where are you going to get a 12 inch pianist (let alone a 4 inch one - the genie was a bit mutt and jeff)? -- Johnny B Good |
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On 13/04/2016 17:53, Capitol wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. Live music, without amplifiers. Karaoke down the local? Even those balling banshees have amplifiers don't they? |
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Capitol wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In articlec4qdnY4mzPAh7pDKnZ2dnUU78VPNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. Live music, without amplifiers. In a discussion about speakers. Very apt. Did you have the same teachers as Turnip? -- *My wife has a slight impediment in her speech. She stops to breathe. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In articlec4qdnY4mzPAh7pDKnZ2dnUU78VPNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. Live music, without amplifiers. In a discussion about speakers. Very apt. Did you have the same teachers as Turnip? I answered your question, which was obviously badly constructed as you didn't get the answer you were looking for! |
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 21:55:04 GMT, Johnny B Good
wrote: Yeahbut, where are you going to get a 12 inch pianist (let alone a 4 inch one - the genie was a bit mutt and jeff)? a) "Our engineering department in one of the best in the business, they'll take care of it?" b) "The Japanese: they make everything smaller and cheaper?" c) "Ebay!" d) https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/46/11/10/4611105788cc5ba5a10765aa76f599b3.jpg So there. Thomas Prufer |
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Capitol wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In articlec4qdnY4mzPAh7pDKnZ2dnUU78VPNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. Live music, without amplifiers. In a discussion about speakers. Very apt. Did you have the same teachers as Turnip? I answered your question, which was obviously badly constructed as you didn't get the answer you were looking for! All I was trying to find out was the reasons you made that statement. But it's rather obvious you don't know yourself. -- *If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article5KOdnXszUdjbZZPKnZ2dnUU78T_NnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In , wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In articlec4qdnY4mzPAh7pDKnZ2dnUU78VPNnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, wrote: As he was listening to a cd, the sound quality would be awful anyway. A to D conversion, bandwidth limited, error correction, D to A conversion, analogue filtering, YUK!! Plus the loudspeaker distortions. Be interesting to see what a spectrum analyser found. Do tell what perfect source you normally listen to? Haven't had a good laugh yet today. Live music, without amplifiers. In a discussion about speakers. Very apt. Did you have the same teachers as Turnip? I answered your question, which was obviously badly constructed as you didn't get the answer you were looking for! All I was trying to find out was the reasons you made that statement. But it's rather obvious you don't know yourself. I explained why the sound was going to be crap. If you don't believe me, go and do some serious numerical audio distortion measurements and look at the results. I've done so for a living so reckon I have some real knowledge, not "It sounds OK to me"! |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:12:26 +0200, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 21:55:04 GMT, Johnny B Good wrote: Yeahbut, where are you going to get a 12 inch pianist (let alone a 4 inch one - the genie was a bit mutt and jeff)? a) "Our engineering department in one of the best in the business, they'll take care of it?" b) "The Japanese: they make everything smaller and cheaper?" c) "Ebay!" d) https://s-media-cache- ak0.pinimg.com/736x/46/11/10/4611105788cc5ba5a10765aa76f599b3.jpg So there. The thought bubble contained a spelling error (flautist *not* flutist). Was the misspelling deliberately chosen to enhance the humour of the situation even more by any chance? -- Johnny B Good |
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On 12/04/2016 23:02, Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬) wrote:
We're all sorted now though. Can't notice any difference between the the cables even though the new ones aren't bunt in yet! Russ Andrews suggests 500 hours for cable burn in. The cable will be directional so you will have to swap the direction the cable is installed to hear which sounds better. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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"Johnny B Good" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:12:26 +0200, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 21:55:04 GMT, Johnny B Good wrote: Yeahbut, where are you going to get a 12 inch pianist (let alone a 4 inch one - the genie was a bit mutt and jeff)? a) "Our engineering department in one of the best in the business, they'll take care of it?" b) "The Japanese: they make everything smaller and cheaper?" c) "Ebay!" d) https://s-media-cache- ak0.pinimg.com/736x/46/11/10/4611105788cc5ba5a10765aa76f599b3.jpg So there. The thought bubble contained a spelling error (flautist *not* flutist). Was the misspelling deliberately chosen to enhance the humour of the situation even more by any chance? O c'mon, everyone knows ephalumps can't spell. |
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alan_m wrote: Russ Andrews suggests 500 hours for cable burn in. Yup. And the warranty for his cable is 3 weeks. ;-) -- *Marriage changes passion - suddenly you're in bed with a relative* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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scribeth thus On 12/04/2016 23:02, Pet @ www.gymratz.co.uk ;¬) wrote: We're all sorted now though. Can't notice any difference between the the cables even though the new ones aren't bunt in yet! Russ Andrews suggests 500 hours for cable burn in. The cable will be directional so you will have to swap the direction the cable is installed to hear which sounds better. He's got it all wrong. What he doesn't realise is that you need to connect a 1.5 volt battery to the cable to flush out the tired used electrons as any fule know!.... -- Tony Sayer |
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