On 3/8/2016 8:52 AM, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:47:09 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:


An analysis of radioactive contamination from the Fukushima disaster.

"The Fukushima nuclear disaster occurred almost five years ago in March
2011. It is the largest event of its sort since Chernobyl, which
occurred 25 years earlier. The accident was triggered by a tsunami and
earthquake that led to a meltdown at the plant. During this event, large
amounts of radioactive materials were released into the atmosphere.
Since then, Fukushima Daiichi has continued to leak radioactive
materials into the ground and nearby ocean"

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/...er-fukushimas-
contamination-is-slow-to-fade/

or http://tinyurl.com/z3nrguo

The key point with any radioactivity is how harmful it is to life,
especially human life. Unfortunately, to the ignorami, any
radioactivity is regarded as terrifyingly dangerous, however tiny that
amount might be. This is a consequence of the nuclear weapons
industry, the early uncertainties as to the medical effects of low
levels of radiation on human health, and antinuclear FUD spread by
vociferous quasi-political pressure groups.

Unless the general public are better educated as to the sensitivity or
otherwise of human health to low levels or radioactivity, increasing
the sensitivity of radioactivity detection to lower and lower levels
will merely cause more alarm in the minds of that public. The mere
mention of the word 'radioactive' is enough to cause that alarm.

Remember this, that the most radioactive thing that almost anyone is
likely to encounter in their lifetimes is a banana.

Not to mention brazil nuts, and potash fertiliser. When I was giving
public talks about 25 years ago I used to take a classic army prismatic
compass, and a small box of fertiliser together with a geiger counter.
(In those days my older audiences were familiar with that compass). The
fertiliser gives a few times natural background, the compass gives
several hundred counts per second, more than enough to set off detectors
if you tried to take it out of a nuclear power station controlled area.

On 09/03/2016 22:03, newshound wrote:

Not to mention brazil nuts, and potash fertiliser. When I was giving
public talks about 25 years ago I used to take a classic army prismatic
compass, and a small box of fertiliser together with a geiger counter.
(In those days my older audiences were familiar with that compass). The
fertiliser gives a few times natural background, the compass gives
several hundred counts per second, more than enough to set off detectors
if you tried to take it out of a nuclear power station controlled area.

One concern is that the radioactive material gets concentrated through
the food chain. Rather equivalent to your compass gobbling up lots of
other compasses.

We have seen that with Minimata disease - mercury poisoning caused by
the accumulation of mercury within shellfish that the local human
population then ate. The source of the contamination, was fairly dilute
wastewater, but the shellfish concentrated it.

On 10/03/16 15:39, GB wrote:
On 09/03/2016 22:03, newshound wrote:

Not to mention brazil nuts, and potash fertiliser. When I was giving
public talks about 25 years ago I used to take a classic army prismatic
compass, and a small box of fertiliser together with a geiger counter.
(In those days my older audiences were familiar with that compass). The
fertiliser gives a few times natural background, the compass gives
several hundred counts per second, more than enough to set off detectors
if you tried to take it out of a nuclear power station controlled area.

One concern is that the radioactive material gets concentrated through
the food chain. Rather equivalent to your compass gobbling up lots of
other compasses.

We have seen that with Minimata disease - mercury poisoning caused by
the accumulation of mercury within shellfish that the local human
population then ate. The source of the contamination, was fairly dilute
wastewater, but the shellfish concentrated it.

Ah, but the half life of mercury is longer than that of any radioactive
element, so its far far worse than radiation.

Ask Harry how we are going to safely store mercury for the *lifetime of
the universe*.



--
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early
twenty-first centurys developed world went into hysterical panic over a
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and,
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

On Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:29:43 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/16 15:39, GB wrote:
On 09/03/2016 22:03, newshound wrote:

Not to mention brazil nuts, and potash fertiliser. When I was giving
public talks about 25 years ago I used to take a classic army prismatic
compass, and a small box of fertiliser together with a geiger counter.
(In those days my older audiences were familiar with that compass). The
fertiliser gives a few times natural background, the compass gives
several hundred counts per second, more than enough to set off detectors
if you tried to take it out of a nuclear power station controlled area.

One concern is that the radioactive material gets concentrated through
the food chain. Rather equivalent to your compass gobbling up lots of
other compasses.

We have seen that with Minimata disease - mercury poisoning caused by
the accumulation of mercury within shellfish that the local human
population then ate. The source of the contamination, was fairly dilute
wastewater, but the shellfish concentrated it.

Ah, but the half life of mercury is longer than that of any radioactive
element, so its far far worse than radiation.

Ask Harry how we are going to safely store mercury for the *lifetime of
the universe*.


Mercury has been phased out of many industrial processes and equipment.
Even CFLs are disappearing in favour of LED.

The main thing you have to worry about is dental fillings.

Dunno what's happening to all the recovered mercury. Must be tons of it about somewhere.

In message ,
harry writes
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:29:43 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/16 15:39, GB wrote:
On 09/03/2016 22:03, newshound wrote:



Ask Harry how we are going to safely store mercury for the *lifetime of
the universe*.


Mercury has been phased out of many industrial processes and equipment.
Even CFLs are disappearing in favour of LED.

The main thing you have to worry about is dental fillings.

Perhaps we should consider filled tooth extraction before cremation?

Dunno what's happening to all the recovered mercury. Must be tons of it
about somewhere.

--
Tim Lamb

On 10/03/16 17:10, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,
harry writes
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:29:43 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/16 15:39, GB wrote:
On 09/03/2016 22:03, newshound wrote:



Ask Harry how we are going to safely store mercury for the *lifetime of
the universe*.


Mercury has been phased out of many industrial processes and equipment.
Even CFLs are disappearing in favour of LED.

The main thing you have to worry about is dental fillings.

Perhaps we should consider filled tooth extraction before cremation?

Dunno what's happening to all the recovered mercury. Must be tons of
it about somewhere.

I see harry hasn't actually answered the question

Harry:how are we going to safely store mercury for the *lifetime of the
universe*?


--
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a
kind word alone.

Al Capone

"harry" wrote in message
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On Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:29:43 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/03/16 15:39, GB wrote:
On 09/03/2016 22:03, newshound wrote:

Not to mention brazil nuts, and potash fertiliser. When I was giving
public talks about 25 years ago I used to take a classic army
prismatic
compass, and a small box of fertiliser together with a geiger counter.
(In those days my older audiences were familiar with that compass).
The
fertiliser gives a few times natural background, the compass gives
several hundred counts per second, more than enough to set off
detectors
if you tried to take it out of a nuclear power station controlled
area.

One concern is that the radioactive material gets concentrated through
the food chain. Rather equivalent to your compass gobbling up lots of
other compasses.

We have seen that with Minimata disease - mercury poisoning caused by
the accumulation of mercury within shellfish that the local human
population then ate. The source of the contamination, was fairly dilute
wastewater, but the shellfish concentrated it.

Ah, but the half life of mercury is longer than that of any radioactive
element, so its far far worse than radiation.

Ask Harry how we are going to safely store mercury for the *lifetime of
the universe*.


Mercury has been phased out of many industrial processes and equipment.
Even CFLs are disappearing in favour of LED.

The main thing you have to worry about is dental fillings.

Dunno what's happening to all the recovered mercury.

There is **** all of that.

Must be tons of it about somewhere.

Wrong, as always.