You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the trend is
to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?

Bertie Doe wrote:

You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the trend is
to install those nice foamy taps.

Presumably you're not talking about some sort of soap-dosing? I've never
seen them if you are.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

OK so no, you probably don't want soapy coffee, my Franke kitchen tap
has what it calls a 'perlator' which is just a bit of fine metal gauze
that screws onto the outlet ...

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Bertie Doe wrote:

You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the trend
is
to install those nice foamy taps.

Presumably you're not talking about some sort of soap-dosing? I've never
seen them if you are.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

OK so no, you probably don't want soapy coffee, my Franke kitchen tap has
what it calls a 'perlator' which is just a bit of fine metal gauze that
screws onto the outlet ...

Ah thanks Andy, I reckon the metal gauze will do the trick. The Franke isn't
available locally, I'll have a look online, thanks.

On 29/01/2016 10:29, Andy Burns wrote:
Bertie Doe wrote:

You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is
to install those nice foamy taps.

Presumably you're not talking about some sort of soap-dosing? I've never
seen them if you are.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

OK so no, you probably don't want soapy coffee, my Franke kitchen tap
has what it calls a 'perlator' which is just a bit of fine metal gauze
that screws onto the outlet ...



I have fitted these to last 2 houses, they are simply small aeration
devices that screw into the end of the taps (Ideal Standard)
As described above they are a fine mesh ... as the unit screw into end
of tap .. it adds nothing to tap length.

First came across these on taps in Germany at end of 70's

On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator



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On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator

Yes, we stayed in centre Parcs Eleveden last week, all the lodges
have been refitted over the last few years and they have aerators
on the kitchen tap. Bloody annoying when you want to fill the
kettle or the sink, takes much longer than at home with our
normal mixer tap.

Probably saves CPs lots on their water bill though
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On 29/01/2016 11:46, Chris French wrote:
Chris B Wrote in message:
On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator

Yes, we stayed in centre Parcs Eleveden last week, all the lodges
have been refitted over the last few years and they have aerators
on the kitchen tap. Bloody annoying when you want to fill the
kettle or the sink, takes much longer than at home with our
normal mixer tap.

Probably saves CPs lots on their water bill though


+1 This aeration is OK for taps that are for handwashing only.

But if you need a tap to actually deliver water at a sensible rate for
kettle filling these should be avoided.

Phil

thescullster wrote:

This aeration is OK for taps that are for handwashing only.

But if you need a tap to actually deliver water at a sensible rate for
kettle filling these should be avoided.

Mine fills a 1.6 litre kettle in 10 seconds, I don't see a problem with
that rate ...

On 29/01/2016 14:00, Andy Burns wrote:
thescullster wrote:

This aeration is OK for taps that are for handwashing only.

But if you need a tap to actually deliver water at a sensible rate for
kettle filling these should be avoided.

Mine fills a 1.6 litre kettle in 10 seconds, I don't see a problem with
that rate ...


OK so maybe I'm a little impatient when you apply this to the kettle
filling operation.
BUT try filling a bucket with hot water to wash the car.

On 29/01/2016 14:00, Andy Burns wrote:
thescullster wrote:

This aeration is OK for taps that are for handwashing only.

But if you need a tap to actually deliver water at a sensible rate for
kettle filling these should be avoided.

Mine fills a 1.6 litre kettle in 10 seconds, I don't see a problem with
that rate ...



Mine does it twice as fast as that, its not slowed by the aerator.
CP Nottingham takes about 25 seconds to do the same.

The aerator makes it look like there is more water flowing than there is
so people don't turn the tap on full.

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On 29/01/2016 11:46, Chris French wrote:
Chris B Wrote in message:
On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the
technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but
there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator

Yes, we stayed in centre Parcs Eleveden last week, all the lodges
have been refitted over the last few years and they have aerators
on the kitchen tap. Bloody annoying when you want to fill the
kettle or the sink, takes much longer than at home with our
normal mixer tap.

Probably saves CPs lots on their water bill though


+1 This aeration is OK for taps that are for handwashing only.

But if you need a tap to actually deliver water at a sensible rate for
kettle filling these should be avoided.

Dunno, I first came across them in the 60s and that
was just on the kitchen tap, not any of the others.

The main advantage on the kitchen tap is that you get
rather less splashing because the stream of water is filled
with small bubbles and that does help avoid splashing
for some reason. Never had any problem filling a kettle or
the sink when washing stuff by hand as I did in those days.

On 29/01/2016 11:46, Chris French wrote:
Chris B Wrote in message:
On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator

Yes, we stayed in centre Parcs Eleveden last week, all the lodges
have been refitted over the last few years and they have aerators
on the kitchen tap. Bloody annoying when you want to fill the
kettle or the sink, takes much longer than at home with our
normal mixer tap.

Probably saves CPs lots on their water bill though



They don't really make any difference to the flow rate AFAICT.
CP has a slow flow rate anyway due to the long pipe runs.

"Chris B" wrote in message ...

On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator

Brilliant, thanks Chris, the aerator must be similar to the effect with the
metal gauze fixed to Andy's Franke tap. It seems to reduce the amount of hot
water wasted, so a big saving in public loos. I can live with the slow
kettle fill.

I've just had a look at the Franke site. Quite a large range. I looked at
the details and there may be issues with some of the taps' compatibility
with our combi boiler. I may have to give Baxi a ring.

http://www.franke.com/kitchensystems...ange/taps.html

Some of the spouts are single flow and some bi-flo. Are there any
ad/disadvantages of either type, anyone, thanks.

"Bertie Doe" Wrote in message:


"Chris B" wrote in message ...

On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?


Don't know about makes but the technology is to suck air into the water
stream. This creates air bubbles in the water stream which burst on
contact with skin. The theory is it takes less water to wet you - less
splashing water wasted (but will take longer to fill a kettle)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faucet_aerator

Brilliant, thanks Chris, the aerator must be similar to the effect with the
metal gauze fixed to Andy's Franke tap. It seems to reduce the amount of hot
water wasted, so a big saving in public loos. I can live with the slow
kettle fill.

I've just had a look at the Franke site. Quite a large range. I looked at
the details and there may be issues with some of the taps' compatibility
with our combi boiler. I may have to give Baxi a ring.

http://www.franke.com/kitchensystems...ange/taps.html

Some of the spouts are single flow and some bi-flo. Are there any
ad/disadvantages of either type, anyone, thanks.

Any should be fine with a combi boiler.

Dual flow ones are designed to be used with gravity HW (the cold
of course being mains in kitchens) so you don't get the mains
pressure cold overpowering the hot or trying to back flow up the
hot pipe. But they will work OK on a combi.

In a single f!ow tap the water can mix in the spout, rather than
two separate hot and cold streams, it doesn't really bother me
but some people don't like it. I think some deigns of mixer with
just one handle for flow and temp mixing don't lend themselves to
a dual flow design
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"Chris French" wrote in message ...

"Bertie Doe" Wrote in message:
Some of the spouts are single flow and some bi-flo. Are there any
ad/disadvantages of either type, anyone, thanks.

Any should be fine with a combi boiler.

Dual flow ones are designed to be used with gravity HW (the cold
of course being mains in kitchens) so you don't get the mains
pressure cold overpowering the hot or trying to back flow up the
hot pipe. But they will work OK on a combi.

In a single f!ow tap the water can mix in the spout, rather than
two separate hot and cold streams, it doesn't really bother me
but some people don't like it. I think some deigns of mixer with
just one handle for flow and temp mixing don't lend themselves to
a dual flow design

Thanks Chris, that's reassuring. Needs to be replaced. Spoilt for choice.

On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?



They are aerators, they just add air bubbles into the flow.
Lidl was selling bits to screw onto a mixer that did that or made a
multi jet spray when you twisted it.

A quick search for "tap aerator" on amazon will give you loads to choose
from.

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dennis@home wrote:
On 29/01/2016 10:23, Bertie Doe wrote:
You know when airports and motorway cafes refurbish their loos, the
trend is to install those nice foamy taps.

I need to replace the mixer tap in the kitchen but what's the technology
behind the foaming?

Obviously you can't get a 2L kettle under a motorway style tap but there
must higher types on the market?

Any thoughts on models? Any makes to avoid?



They are aerators, they just add air bubbles into the flow.
Lidl was selling bits to screw onto a mixer that did that or made a
multi jet spray when you twisted it.

A quick search for "tap aerator" on amazon will give you loads to choose
from.

Just like the things pubs put on their beer taps to "froth" the beer.

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They are aerators, they just add air bubbles into the flow.
Lidl was selling bits to screw onto a mixer that did that or made a multi
jet spray when you twisted it.

A quick search for "tap aerator" on amazon will give you loads to choose
from.

Thanks Dennis, I'll have a look online, although in fairness the existing
mixer tap is corroding and could do with replacing.