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You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about
60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? |
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On 12/10/15 22:14, R D S wrote:
You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? I think you'll have to put and edging strip in and finish to that - then do the other 40% from the strip on tomorrow. |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:17:57 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
On 12/10/15 22:14, R D S wrote: You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? I think you'll have to put and edging strip in and finish to that - then do the other 40% from the strip on tomorrow. Quote; "it's OK if the seam is a bit rough, I have a big sander" |
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On Monday, 12 October 2015 22:22:57 UTC+1, R D S wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:17:57 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: On 12/10/15 22:14, R D S wrote: You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? I think you'll have to put and edging strip in and finish to that - then do the other 40% from the strip on tomorrow. Quote; "it's OK if the seam is a bit rough, I have a big sander" You can seamlessly bond plaster "joints" together by use of PVA, Leave the finshed edge tapered. Later, when recommencing, wet down the taper area with PVA and water 50/50 mix. Mix some plaster up with 50/50 mix for where the joint is. You can "feather" the edge right down to nothing no problem with the PVA/water/plaster mix. Or even less PVA, you have to experiment. There is a cheap grade of PVA sold specially for this and similar purposes. (No good as wood glues) |
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Try to avoid machine sanding of plasterwork it creates a helluva lot of dust.
Richard |
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On Tuesday, 13 October 2015 08:03:15 UTC+1, harry wrote:
There is a cheap grade of PVA sold specially for this and similar purposes. (No good as wood glues) I'd hope it's at least slightly good as wood glue. I've used an awful lot of it to hold my bedroom floor down and my door frames up. Owain |
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On Tuesday, 13 October 2015 08:03:15 UTC+1, harry wrote: There is a cheap grade of PVA sold specially for this and similar purposes. (No good as wood glues) I'd hope it's at least slightly good as wood glue. I've used an awful lot of it to hold my bedroom floor down and my door frames up. All 'white' PVA is the same - its a glue or a sealer depending on how much water is in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate Owain -- Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the world it's not directly responsible for. |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:14:03 +0000, R D S wrote:
You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? You're a better man than I. I'd have completed about 10% then ****ed off down the pub. |
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On 13/10/15 18:52, Julian Barnes wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:14:03 +0000, R D S wrote: You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? You're a better man than I. I'd have completed about 10% then ****ed off down the pub. I'd have chosen a room with smaller walls. |
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You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? I'm skimming a friend's hallway. I do a bucketfull, wash everything up, tidy up and go away for about a month.... I'm a busy person!! :-) -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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"R D S" wrote in message ... You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? Bad management. You don't start it unless you have the time, materials and skills to finish it in a reasonable time. This isn't to say non pro's shouldn't try it, but get everything ready very early, then check again that everything is ready before starting to mix. I've seen people put a big mix on, then spend half an hour in the shed looking for dustsheets, then 20 minutes looking for stepladders, then they can't find a decent trowel so they start putting it on with a spoon, by which time it resembles playdoh, then they realise the wall hasn't been scraped properly and there's lumps of wallpaper / paint / nails everywhere so they give up. Plastering, like everything else, is easy if you follow a few basic rules. Mixing is the last thing you do once *everything* else regarding preparation has been done. Don't start anything until you've got *every* tool and other equipment in place and ready to go, this includes scaffold and cleaning up equipment. Don't start anything unless you've got enough time and materials to finish |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 20:56:14 +0100, Phil L wrote:
"R D S" wrote in message ... You've mixed some plaster, set about applying it, you've covered about 60% of a wall, it's getting late, Do you mix some more or finish it tomorrow? Bad management. snipped and noted if I ever decide to have a go myself Cheers Phil. I have someone in doing it, admittedly he has a dayjob and is doing it in spare time but applying at approx one bag per day and has yet to finish a wall in one go. |
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"R D S" wrote in message ... snipped and noted if I ever decide to have a go myself Cheers Phil. I have someone in doing it, admittedly he has a dayjob and is doing it in spare time but applying at approx one bag per day and has yet to finish a wall in one go. I hope he's not charging you for it! |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:51:06 +0100, Phil L wrote:
"R D S" wrote in message ... snipped and noted if I ever decide to have a go myself Cheers Phil. I have someone in doing it, admittedly he has a dayjob and is doing it in spare time but applying at approx one bag per day and has yet to finish a wall in one go. I hope he's not charging you for it! Sadly I am paying him. That said he hasn't yet finished the job, was coming to finish tomorrow but when I called him earlier he was in A&E with 'plaster burns'. |
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"R D S" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:51:06 +0100, Phil L wrote: "R D S" wrote in message ... snipped and noted if I ever decide to have a go myself Cheers Phil. I have someone in doing it, admittedly he has a dayjob and is doing it in spare time but applying at approx one bag per day and has yet to finish a wall in one go. I hope he's not charging you for it! Sadly I am paying him. That said he hasn't yet finished the job, was coming to finish tomorrow but when I called him earlier he was in A&E with 'plaster burns'. I started a plastering job yesterday, 3 bedrooms and a hall/stairs/landing (walls only). Since yesterday morning I have finished the master bedroom (inc corner beads around window and another external corner), done 3 walls in the medium sized bedroom and one wall in the box room. This included PVA'ing and scraping everything beforehand, loosening sockets and switches to plaster behind and removing two (unfilled yet) radiators to plaster behind. Monday I will have all 3 bedrooms completed and the rest of the job prepped ready for Tuesday. I may get it finished but they want me to skim the kitchen ceiling as an extra so it will probably stretch to Wed. Never heard of 'plaster burns' in 35 years, maybe he's got it in his eyes? |
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R D S writes: On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:51:06 +0100, Phil L wrote: "R D S" wrote in message ... snipped and noted if I ever decide to have a go myself Cheers Phil. I have someone in doing it, admittedly he has a dayjob and is doing it in spare time but applying at approx one bag per day and has yet to finish a wall in one go. I hope he's not charging you for it! Sadly I am paying him. That said he hasn't yet finished the job, was coming to finish tomorrow but when I called him earlier he was in A&E with 'plaster burns'. If you haven't developed builder's leather skin, you need one of: Barrier cream, or Plastic Gloves, or enough skill not to get it all over yourself. When washing your hands whilst plastering, use only water, as soaps/detergents also wash away the oils which provide your skin with some basic protection. If you do get cracked skin (but not bad enough to go to A&E), rinse clean with water, gently dry, and rub pure vaselene into your skin. It's knuckles which seem to get it first. It's a lot easier to avoid getting preventable skin conditions in the first place than it is to get rid of them afterwards. Some people can develop sensitivity or a permanent allergy to lime/plaster/cement products on repeated exposure. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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Phil L wrote:
Don't start anything until you've got *every* tool and other equipment in place and ready to go, this includes scaffold and cleaning up equipment. Don't start anything unless you've got enough time and materials to finish That time has to include cleaning afterwards. It's hugely easier to wash damp plsater off your tools at the end of the job than it is to chisel it off before starting the next job. Also, be prepared to be happy to mix too much plaster and throw away the unused in the bottom of your bucket. Don't be tempted to try and use it to start the first few inches of the next job. It takes a bit of practice to get the quantity right to do a job with minimal waste. jgh |
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