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Hi we have been living in our bungalow since March and never had any problems with smells but after being away for ten days we can home and there was a really bad gas like smell in the little hallway and in the bathroom that leads off the hall way although it wasn't in the lounge and bedroom next to this hall. It went away after two hours we had a knock from a gas man today as our neigh our had also reported a gas smell in their kitchen he checked their home and metres etc. And then checked ours but found no leak. Wen my husband went to put our suitcase in the attic he opened the loft hatch and the same gas smell hit him again from the loft. So we again called the gas board and a different man came he checked the loft with a machine but nothing registered although he cud smell something. He checked the boiler and metre again and still registered clear. He said he was certain there was no leaks . We are still very concerned as we have children as to what this odour is if not a gas leak . Can something else cause this gas like smell ?
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Scott M wrote:
wrote: We are still very concerned as we have children as to what this odour is if not a gas leak . Can something else cause this gas like smell ? Sewer gas smells? If there's an internal soil stack terminator (damned if I can think of the right name) in the loft it could be playing up and not sealing properly. Durgo Valve or Air Admittance Valve - before I had ours taken out as part of a roof renewal, the bloody thing used to sometimes jam or freeze open. To be fair though, it had seen many years service. Cash |
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Stink horn mushrooms can give off a gas like smell look for a phallic like growth in any undergrowth under hedges and trees. The smell attracts flies which help to spread their spores, if you have any do not handle them otherwise you will stink from it but dig the testicle like root out and dispose in a sealed plastic bag.
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On Saturday, October 10, 2015 at 9:56:00 PM UTC+1, wrote:
Hi we have been living in our bungalow since March and never had any problems with smells but after being away for ten days we can home and there was a really bad gas like smell in the little hallway and in the bathroom that leads off the hall way although it wasn't in the lounge and bedroom next to this hall. It went away after two hours we had a knock from a gas man today as our neigh our had also reported a gas smell in their kitchen he checked their home and metres etc. And then checked ours but found no leak. Wen my husband went to put our suitcase in the attic he opened the loft hatch and the same gas smell hit him again from the loft. So we again called the gas board and a different man came he checked the loft with a machine but nothing registered although he cud smell something. He checked the boiler and metre again and still registered clear. He said he was certain there was no leaks . We are still very concerned as we have children as to what this odour is if not a gas leak . Can something else cause this gas like smell ? We had a gas smell, and after lots of investigation (e.g. some floorboards up), I found that the builder had hammered a pipe, which must have been a bit proud, so that they could plaster over it. Over time, the plaster had corroded the copper. I mention this because we twice had someone from the gas board out, and they didn't detect a leak. I think it's because a very small leak 'passes the test', as it were, but whatever they put in it (ethyl or methyl mercaptan, I think) so that we can still smell it is very detectable by the human nose. |
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On 11/10/2015 01:05, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Stink horn mushrooms can give off a gas like smell look for a phallic like growth in any undergrowth under hedges and trees. The smell attracts flies which help to spread their spores, if you have any do not handle them otherwise you will stink from it but dig the testicle like root out and dispose in a sealed plastic bag. Richard Mushrooms do not have roots! They only stink for a short time - a few days. They seem especially partial to appearing under holly bushes/trees. -- Rod |
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I'd go for the sewer gas first. Often due to a build up of organic gunge
somewhere and it comes up in any drain nearby, ewhich makes me wonder if this house has one of those pipes that sticks up above the roof and its coming in somehow that way. The issue of build up of gass to an explosive mix depends on whether the leak and the drain from where its going are sufficiently different to let it gradually increase, then switch on a light or a thermostat goes over etc, and kerboom, like the old tin trick we did at school. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active Remember, if you don't like where I post or what I say, you don't have to read my posts! :-) "Scott M" wrote in message ... wrote: We are still very concerned as we have children as to what this odour is if not a gas leak . Can something else cause this gas like smell ? Sewer gas smells? If there's an internal soil stack terminator (damned if I can think of the right name) in the loft it could be playing up and not sealing properly. Otherwise probably is a mains gas leak but of such small amount that it takes a long time to build up enough to be noticeable. And is then easily wafted away when you open a door/loft hatch etc. While it wants to be sorted, I don't think these normally build up to a dangerous level. -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message .. . In article , Phil L wrote: I had a very slow leak a few weks ago and did this, it was using just less than a square foot of gas each day ... A square foot of gas, eh? Like it, like it. A cubic foot of gas. Try actually contributing something to the group instead of wandering in and out of threads trying to make clever comments and showing yourself up to be a stupid old **** |
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On 11/10/2015 16:50, Phil L wrote:
"Tim wrote in message .. . In , Phil L wrote: I had a very slow leak a few weks ago and did this, it was using just less than a square foot of gas each day ... A square foot of gas, eh? Like it, like it. A cubic foot of gas. Try actually contributing something to the group instead of wandering in and out of threads trying to make clever comments and showing yourself up to be a stupid old **** I had similar on an old style boiler (not combi) 24 years ago, the boiler / house was new. Every time I went in to the airing cupboard where it was located I got that gassy smell, I got it checked out..nothing. On 3 or 4 ocassions over the years I had plumbers/gas fitters for various reasons, all said I can smell gas in that cupboard, we must check it and if leaking shut it down, none could find any cause. Eventually after 20 years the boiler was replaced by a combi (relocated) and the smell disappeared. |
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"ss" wrote in message ... On 11/10/2015 16:50, Phil L wrote: "Tim wrote in message .. . In , Phil L wrote: I had a very slow leak a few weks ago and did this, it was using just less than a square foot of gas each day ... A square foot of gas, eh? Like it, like it. A cubic foot of gas. Try actually contributing something to the group instead of wandering in and out of threads trying to make clever comments and showing yourself up to be a stupid old **** I had similar on an old style boiler (not combi) 24 years ago, the boiler / house was new. Every time I went in to the airing cupboard where it was located I got that gassy smell, I got it checked out..nothing. On 3 or 4 ocassions over the years I had plumbers/gas fitters for various reasons, all said I can smell gas in that cupboard, we must check it and if leaking shut it down, none could find any cause. Eventually after 20 years the boiler was replaced by a combi (relocated) and the smell disappeared. As a contractor I could smell what I thought was gas in the kitchens of a very large hotel. It gave me a screaming headache. I mentioned it to the owner who produced a bit of paper saying that the place had been checked for gas leaks - no leaks had been detected. The bit of paper was bull****, it was gas. |
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Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
"ss" wrote in message ... On 11/10/2015 16:50, Phil L wrote: "Tim wrote in message .. . In , Phil L wrote: I had a very slow leak a few weks ago and did this, it was using just less than a square foot of gas each day ... A square foot of gas, eh? Like it, like it. A cubic foot of gas. Try actually contributing something to the group instead of wandering in and out of threads trying to make clever comments and showing yourself up to be a stupid old **** I had similar on an old style boiler (not combi) 24 years ago, the boiler / house was new. Every time I went in to the airing cupboard where it was located I got that gassy smell, I got it checked out..nothing. On 3 or 4 ocassions over the years I had plumbers/gas fitters for various reasons, all said I can smell gas in that cupboard, we must check it and if leaking shut it down, none could find any cause. Eventually after 20 years the boiler was replaced by a combi (relocated) and the smell disappeared. As a contractor I could smell what I thought was gas in the kitchens of a very large hotel. It gave me a screaming headache. I mentioned it to the owner who produced a bit of paper saying that the place had been checked for gas leaks - no leaks had been detected. The bit of paper was bull****, it was gas. Gas is SMELLY. It seems to take very little of it for our noses to detect it. Our pipe work passes a pressure drop test but eventually a smell of gas in a cupboard below our gas hob was isolated to a compression joint that was only finger tight. Tim |
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On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote:
Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 11/10/2015 20:18, alan_m wrote:
On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Odour is added to it. |
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"Bod" wrote in message ... On 11/10/2015 20:18, alan_m wrote: On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Odour is added to it. He did not seem to know that. FFS |
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"Tim+" wrote in message ... Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: "ss" wrote in message ... On 11/10/2015 16:50, Phil L wrote: "Tim wrote in message .. . In , Phil L wrote: I had a very slow leak a few weks ago and did this, it was using just less than a square foot of gas each day ... A square foot of gas, eh? Like it, like it. A cubic foot of gas. Try actually contributing something to the group instead of wandering in and out of threads trying to make clever comments and showing yourself up to be a stupid old **** I had similar on an old style boiler (not combi) 24 years ago, the boiler / house was new. Every time I went in to the airing cupboard where it was located I got that gassy smell, I got it checked out..nothing. On 3 or 4 ocassions over the years I had plumbers/gas fitters for various reasons, all said I can smell gas in that cupboard, we must check it and if leaking shut it down, none could find any cause. Eventually after 20 years the boiler was replaced by a combi (relocated) and the smell disappeared. As a contractor I could smell what I thought was gas in the kitchens of a very large hotel. It gave me a screaming headache. I mentioned it to the owner who produced a bit of paper saying that the place had been checked for gas leaks - no leaks had been detected. The bit of paper was bull****, it was gas. Gas is SMELLY. It seems to take very little of it for our noses to detect it. Our pipe work passes a pressure drop test but eventually a smell of gas in a cupboard below our gas hob was isolated to a compression joint that was only finger tight. Tim Finger tight. A while ago I helped out with a total renovation of a bungalow. I pulled out the old Baxi boiler behind the gas fire out of the chimney breast. One connection was only finger tight. It had not been leaking in over 40 years. |
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"Bod" wrote in message
... On 11/10/2015 20:18, alan_m wrote: On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Odour is added to it. tert-Butylthiol (aka t-butyl mercaptan), says Wikipedia. Mercaptans are generally offensively smelly - rotten eggs or dog**** smell. Apparently it has an odour threshold of 0.33 parts per *billion* which I imagine is why it is chosen: the human nose can detect exceptionally small concentrations of it. Reminds me of when I was working in a chemistry lab during my year off. We used a solvent that smelled exactly like vomit - I imagine it is one of the constituents of vomit. When the big boss was showing some VIPs round the lab, someone "accidentally" took the cap of the bottle out of the fume cupboard for a few seconds just before the VIPs arrived, and they all turned green and the boss hastily cut short that part of the visit :-) |
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On 11/10/2015 20:45, NY wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 11/10/2015 20:18, alan_m wrote: On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Odour is added to it. tert-Butylthiol (aka t-butyl mercaptan), says Wikipedia. Mercaptans are generally offensively smelly - rotten eggs or dog**** smell. Apparently it has an odour threshold of 0.33 parts per *billion* which I imagine is why it is chosen: the human nose can detect exceptionally small concentrations of it. Reminds me of when I was working in a chemistry lab during my year off. We used a solvent that smelled exactly like vomit - I imagine it is one of the constituents of vomit. When the big boss was showing some VIPs round the lab, someone "accidentally" took the cap of the bottle out of the fume cupboard for a few seconds just before the VIPs arrived, and they all turned green and the boss hastily cut short that part of the visit :-) lol. |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:45:45 +0100, "NY" wrote:
Reminds me of when I was working in a chemistry lab during my year off. We used a solvent that smelled exactly like vomit - I imagine it is one of the constituents of vomit. There used to be a floor polish used on commercial floors that left a stink like that. Used to wonder how on earth they sold any , they probably only sold one container to anyone who tried it but being commercial use it would be a 25 Litre drum. G.Harman |
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NY wrote:
tert-Butylthiol (aka t-butyl mercaptan), says Wikipedia. Mercaptans are generally offensively smelly - rotten eggs or dog**** smell. Apparently it has an odour threshold of 0.33 parts per *billion* which I imagine is why it is chosen: the human nose can detect exceptionally small concentrations of it. They broke a container of it in (or near) Southampton about 10 years ago and it could be smelt across the entire city. -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On 11/10/2015 01:05, Tricky Dicky wrote:
Stink horn mushrooms can give off a gas like smell It's more a corpse-like smell, which to me is nothing like gas. Equally unpleasant though. Andy |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:15:38 +0100, Scott M wrote:
NY wrote: tert-Butylthiol (aka t-butyl mercaptan), says Wikipedia. Mercaptans are generally offensively smelly - rotten eggs or dog**** smell They broke a container of it in (or near) Southampton about 10 years ago and it could be smelt across the entire city. Residents are used to nasty niffs with a refinery and chemical complex on one side, Portsmouth on the other and France not that far over the Water. G.Harman |
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alan_m wrote:
On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Ah, another ******y pedant. In the context (try and remember that), of domestic gas, it is SMELLY. Tim |
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charles wrote:
In article , Tim+ wrote: alan_m wrote: On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Ah, another ******y pedant. In the context (try and remember that), of domestic gas, it is SMELLY. The smell is added - for safety reasons. Your point being? I don't recall saying that domestic gas is naturally smelly, only that it IS smelly. Tim |
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On 11/10/2015 21:27, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 11/10/2015 01:05, Tricky Dicky wrote: Stink horn mushrooms can give off a gas like smell It's more a corpse-like smell, which to me is nothing like gas. Equally unpleasant though. Andy Definitely not a scent to be applied delicately to one's person. What does smell like gas is: "Tricholoma sulphureum, the Sulphur Knight, used to be referred to as the Gas Works Mushroom because of its strong pungent odour." -- Rod |
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On 11/10/15 21:53, Tim+ wrote:
alan_m wrote: On 11/10/2015 19:51, Tim+ wrote: Gas is SMELLY. Natural gas is odourless. Ah, another ******y pedant. In the context (try and remember that), of domestic gas, it is SMELLY. And natural gas is also often smelly too. Its not pure methane/butane/propane when it comes out of the ground But it's given a standard smell anyway. Tim -- Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the world it's not directly responsible for. |
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On Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:56:00 UTC+1, wrote:
Hi we have been living in our bungalow since March and never had any problems with smells A few a couple of months ago, I noticed what I thought was a sewage/gas smell when I walked past the colleges main building, I mentioned this to one of our H&S peole who told me it ws the flowers they planted on the front area of the college. He didn't know what they were but others had noticed the stink too. |
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On 11/10/15 20:45, NY wrote:
Reminds me of when I was working in a chemistry lab during my year off. We used a solvent that smelled exactly like vomit - I imagine it is one of the constituents of vomit. When the big boss was showing some VIPs round the lab, someone "accidentally" took the cap of the bottle out of the fume cupboard for a few seconds just before the VIPs arrived, and they all turned green and the boss hastily cut short that part of the visit :-) Which reminds me of the offensive vomit smell that whiffed every time I opened my toolbox. Took everything out, washed it inside and out, left it to dry in fresh air: still smelled next time I opened it. Repeated the clean out several times to no avail. Eventually I identified the plastic handle of a screwdriver as the culprit: it seems to be in the plastic, nothing will remove it and the smell accumulates in a confined space, so that's one screwdriver has to be kept out of boxes. It was (and is) a useful tool that I bought because it was ideal for adjusting ski bindings, but I now know why it was in the bargain bin in Migros. -- DJC (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) |
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On 12/10/15 13:24, whisky-dave wrote:
On Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:56:00 UTC+1, wrote: Hi we have been living in our bungalow since March and never had any problems with smells A few a couple of months ago, I noticed what I thought was a sewage/gas smell when I walked past the colleges main building, I mentioned this to one of our H&S peole who told me it ws the flowers they planted on the front area of the college. He didn't know what they were but others had noticed the stink too. Ginko tree? There is one just in the entrance to University College that smells like vomit at this time of year. -- DJC (–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿) |
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On Monday, 12 October 2015 16:05:14 UTC+1, DJC wrote:
On 12/10/15 13:24, whisky-dave wrote: On Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:56:00 UTC+1, wrote: Hi we have been living in our bungalow since March and never had any problems with smells A few a couple of months ago, I noticed what I thought was a sewage/gas smell when I walked past the colleges main building, I mentioned this to one of our H&S peole who told me it ws the flowers they planted on the front area of the college. He didn't know what they were but others had noticed the stink too. Ginko tree? There is one just in the entrance to University College that smells like vomit at this time of year. Could be, I wonder if anyone here (qmul) knows, or should I blame the students, they have their uses. Maybe it's to please the chinese. |
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On 12/10/15 15:46, DJC wrote:
On 12/10/15 13:24, whisky-dave wrote: On Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:56:00 UTC+1, wrote: Hi we have been living in our bungalow since March and never had any problems with smells A few a couple of months ago, I noticed what I thought was a sewage/gas smell when I walked past the colleges main building, I mentioned this to one of our H&S peole who told me it ws the flowers they planted on the front area of the college. He didn't know what they were but others had noticed the stink too. Ginko tree? There is one just in the entrance to University College that smells like vomit at this time of year. Many fungi species smell weird - like semen is the species I am thinking of. :Lots of fungi in October. -- Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the world it's not directly responsible for. |