"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 2 October 2015 19:24:46 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/10/15 16:18, whisky-dave wrote:

yes it is, unless asked by the owner you can't record what happenes on
another property.



Can you get a cite for that?

http://www.yourprivacy.co.uk/does-ne...cy-rights.html

That says nothing like your original lie.


Because the best I can find is:

http://www.problemneighbours.co.uk/w...tv-camera.html

which suggests it might be a case of harassment. But for that, you've
have to be deliberately and provably targeting the other property, and
not merely have it incidentally feature in your picture.

Yes I know, that's why you need to make sure your CCTV isn;t looking
into someone's house or garden.

There is no legal requirement to do that.


All things said and done, it would be unsociable to obviously point a
camera over another's property without consent, but the legal position
looks like a minefield as opposed to a dead given.

Well if you're setting up a camera to catch crooks or wrong
doings you really need to make sure you're doing nothing wrong.

Wrong again. If you are just going to tell the cops what happened
and when using the CCTV footage to do that, you aren't doing
anything wrong and you don't need to ensure you aren't doing
anything wrong either.

In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:

because they aren't recognisable and they usaully shoot body only in a
lot of cases.

That is going to be tricky if filming someone who is standing. As they
invariably are in a street interview.

you point the camera down.

What? Like The Bill credits used to be? A shot of feet?

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On 05/10/15 10:55, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 19:24:46 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/10/15 16:18, whisky-dave wrote:

yes it is, unless asked by the owner you can't record what
happenes on another property.



Can you get a cite for that?

http://www.yourprivacy.co.uk/does-ne...cy-rights.html



Because the best I can find is:

http://www.problemneighbours.co.uk/w...tv-camera.html



which suggests it might be a case of harassment. But for that, you've
have to be deliberately and provably targeting the other property,
and not merely have it incidentally feature in your picture.

Yes I know, that's why you need to make sure your CCTV isn;t looking
into someone's house or garden.


All things said and done, it would be unsociable to obviously point
a camera over another's property without consent, but the legal
position looks like a minefield as opposed to a dead given.

Well if you're setting up a camera to catch crooks or wrong doings
you really need to make sure you're doing nothing wrong.


You said: "...you can't record what happenes on another property."

Which is not exactly true.

There being a difference of directly and substantially targetting
someone's property which would form the basis of harassment - and -

capturing part of someone's property incidentally whilst covering your
own, which is pretty much impossible to avoid unless your camera has
full masking capabilities (and how would the neighbour know if this was
active or not?).

On Monday, 5 October 2015 12:10:30 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Then it comes down to wether or not you have a right to put it on youtube.
Corse you do unless doing that is illegal, and it isn't.
Adam has done it more than once.

Although Adam has said that his (former) neighbour was happy to have the cameras.

Not sure about the discussions on uk.d-i-y that followed some of the episodes though.

Owain

On 05/10/15 12:04, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 5 October 2015 11:30:59 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/10/15 10:55, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 2 October 2015 19:24:46 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/10/15 16:18, whisky-dave wrote:

yes it is, unless asked by the owner you can't record what
happenes on another property.



Can you get a cite for that?

http://www.yourprivacy.co.uk/does-ne...cy-rights.html



Because the best I can find is:

http://www.problemneighbours.co.uk/w...tv-camera.html



which suggests it might be a case of harassment. But for that, you've
have to be deliberately and provably targeting the other property,
and not merely have it incidentally feature in your picture.

Yes I know, that's why you need to make sure your CCTV isn;t looking
into someone's house or garden.


All things said and done, it would be unsociable to obviously point
a camera over another's property without consent, but the legal
position looks like a minefield as opposed to a dead given.

Well if you're setting up a camera to catch crooks or wrong doings
you really need to make sure you're doing nothing wrong.


You said: "...you can't record what happenes on another property."

Which is not exactly true.

Well nothing is exactly true here.


There being a difference of directly and substantially targetting
someone's property which would form the basis of harassment - and -

yes and that's what you have to make sure you're not doing.

This is the differnce between a council/police CCTV and a home CCTV.
Then it comes down to wether or not you have a right to put it on youtube.



Who does and doesn't have the right? I'm lost now...

wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Then it comes down to wether or not you have a right to put it on
youtube.

Corse you do unless doing that is illegal, and it isn't.

Adam has done it more than once.

Although Adam has said that his (former)
neighbour was happy to have the cameras.

The law says nothing about the neighbour's happiness.

Not sure about the discussions on uk.d-i-y
that followed some of the episodes though.

Yeah, particularly with the criminal neighbour.

On 05/10/15 01:41, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Where are the proper journalists when you need one?

That's most unfortunately likely to be a contradiction in terms these days.

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