http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html

On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


--
Colin Bignell

On 30/09/2015 18:35, Nightjar cpb wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html



What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

On 30/09/2015 19:16, Fredxxx wrote:
On 30/09/2015 18:35, Nightjar cpb wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html




What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?


--
Colin Bignell

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjarcpb wrote:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-

headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?


Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

I see that our "you will be taxed by Brussels as it is good for
you" sycophants are in full cry again

On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57:34 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us wish to.


NT

On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:35:53 UTC+1, wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


--
Colin Bignell

We can do all this stuff for ourselves if we deem it necessary.
We don't need these ****ers in Brussels.
With their snouts in the trough.

On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57:34 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

Assuming everyone is a taxpayer.
Which of course they aren't.

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:24:53 +0100, Capitol wrote:

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who,
between them, will receive the third largest handout from the new
measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

I see that our "you will be taxed by Brussels as it is good for
you" sycophants are in full cry again

Firstly, where did I say that?
Secondly, can you name one single tax rate that the EU has been directly
and solely responsible for handing to UK taxpayers? No, thought not.

On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:33:06 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

Petal. It's such a bugger when a party you don't agree with win an
election, isn't it?

On 01/10/15 08:21, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:24:53 +0100, Capitol wrote:

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who,
between them, will receive the third largest handout from the new
measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

I see that our "you will be taxed by Brussels as it is good for
you" sycophants are in full cry again

Firstly, where did I say that?
Secondly, can you name one single tax rate that the EU has been directly
and solely responsible for handing to UK taxpayers? No, thought not.

That is disingenuous. You KNOW that the EU works by making national
governments enact legislation on its behalf so that the illusion of
sovereignty is preserved. And that it levies a massive contribution from
the national governments who are left to find ways to raise it.



--
Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the
world it's not directly responsible for.

On 01/10/2015 00:33, wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57:34 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us wish to.

A recent survey showed that more than half the population would be
prepared to pay up to a third more for milk, if that extra went to
British dairy farmers.


--
Colin Bignell

On 01/10/2015 05:59, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:35:53 UTC+1, wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


--
Colin Bignell

We can do all this stuff for ourselves if we deem it necessary.

I haven't noticed HM Government leaping in to help the farmers.

We don't need these ****ers in Brussels.

Even though we stand to get one of the largest shares of the hand out?

With their snouts in the trough.

It has been estimated that corruption in the EU itself is less than
0.2%, as compared to an estimated 0.44% in the UK, which came out best
among EU member states.

--
Colin Bignell

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:33:06 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

Petal. It's such a bugger when a party you don't agree with win an
election, isn't it?

No party won that particular election.

On 01/10/15 09:58, Nightjar cpb wrote:
It has been estimated that corruption in the EU itself is less than
0.2%, as compared to an estimated 0.44% in the UK, which came out best
among EU member states.

In another story. ISIS claimed they were 113% 'more moral and godfearing
than the Pope'...

--
Global warming is the new Margaret Thatcher. There is no ill in the
world it's not directly responsible for.

On Thursday, 1 October 2015 09:44:55 UTC+1, wrote:
nt:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57:34 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us wish to.

A recent survey showed that more than half the population would be
prepared to pay up to a third more for milk, if that extra went to
British dairy farmers.

That half is welcome to purchase such milk. The other half can continue paying the current cost. It's one thing to say the above, but it tends not to translate into action most of the time.


NT

On Thursday, 1 October 2015 09:58:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On 01/10/2015 05:59, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:35:53 UTC+1, wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

We can do all this stuff for ourselves if we deem it necessary.

I haven't noticed HM Government leaping in to help the farmers.

We don't need these ****ers in Brussels.

Even though we stand to get one of the largest shares of the hand out?

With their snouts in the trough.

It has been estimated that corruption in the EU itself is less than
0.2%, as compared to an estimated 0.44% in the UK, which came out best
among EU member states.

Some people even believe it.


NT

"Nightjar cpb.me.uk" "insert my surname here wrote in message
...
On 01/10/2015 00:33, wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57:34 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

A recent survey showed that more than half the population would be
prepared to pay up to a third more for milk, if that extra went to British
dairy farmers.

But its far from clear that they actually would if that was available to
them.

"Nightjar cpb.me.uk" "insert my surname here wrote in message
...
On 01/10/2015 05:59, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:35:53 UTC+1,
wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


--
Colin Bignell

We can do all this stuff for ourselves if we deem it necessary.

I haven't noticed HM Government leaping in to help the farmers.

We don't need these ****ers in Brussels.

Even though we stand to get one of the largest shares of the hand out?

With their snouts in the trough.

It has been estimated that corruption in the EU itself is less than 0.2%,
as compared to an estimated 0.44% in the UK, which came out best among EU
member states.

Corruption is a separate issue to those like Farage
who clearly have their snouts in the EU trough.

Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:33:06 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:


If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

Petal. It's such a bugger when a party you don't agree with win an
election, isn't it?

Changing the subject because you don't like the responses? If
we wanted more taxation we'd vote socialist. I'm perfectly willing for
you to pay for all of us who don't want more unelected taxation.

In message ,
writes
On Thursday, 1 October 2015 09:44:55 UTC+1, wrote:
nt:
A recent survey showed that more than half the population would be
prepared to pay up to a third more for milk, if that extra went to
British dairy farmers.

That half is welcome to purchase such milk. The other half can continue
paying the current cost. It's one thing to say the above, but it tends
not to translate into action most of the time.

Bring back the *Milk Marketing Board* might be a Thatcher era change
unspotted by Dave:-)

Market forces are fine until sales outlets re-balance the equation with
loss leader promotions.

Producers are forced towards the super dairies disliked by many.

--
Tim Lamb

On Thursday, 1 October 2015 09:58:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On 01/10/2015 05:59, harry wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:35:53 UTC+1, wrote:
On 30/09/2015 17:31, harry wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...dget-hike.html


What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?


--
Colin Bignell

We can do all this stuff for ourselves if we deem it necessary.

I haven't noticed HM Government leaping in to help the farmers.

We don't need these ****ers in Brussels.

Even though we stand to get one of the largest shares of the hand out?

It's not a "handout".
It's our own money they're "giving back".
We don't need these wastrels.

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:25:42 +1000, Hanny Z wrote:

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

Petal. It's such a bugger when a party you don't agree with win an
election, isn't it?

No party won that particular election.

The UK had a majority government, which made the decision you're
complaining about.

In article , "Nightjar
cpb" "insert my surname writes
On 01/10/2015 00:33, wrote:
On Wednesday, 30 September 2015 19:57:34 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 19:44:48 +0100, Nightjar cpb wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl.../11899962/New-
headache-for-David-Cameron-as-Britain-faces-400-million-EU-budget-
hike.html

What do you have against helping the UK's dairy farmers, who, between
them, will receive the third largest handout from the new measures?

Why should they be treated differently to any other industry?

Like the steel industry, which it is proposed should get £130m of
government aid to help achieve pollution targets?

Y'see, that's the thing with "MILLIONS OF POUNDS!"

It's very easy to forget that £130m is only two quid per head per year,
while £400m is six quid per head per year - or 50p per head per month.
Less than two bloody pence per head per day.

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

A recent survey showed that more than half the population would be
prepared to pay up to a third more for milk, if that extra went to
British dairy farmers.


So lets have Freetrade British milk
--
bert

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 19:25:42 +1000, Hanny Z wrote:

If we wanted to pay for that we'd do so. In reality almost none of us
wish to.

Petal. It's such a bugger when a party you don't agree with win an
election, isn't it?

No party won that particular election.

The UK had a majority government, which made the decision you're
complaining about.

I'm not complaining about anything, just pointing
out that no party won that particular election.

There was no election involved and the european
parliament that decided on those subsidies doesnt
even get to write any legislation, all it ever gets
to do is either confirm or refuse what some unelected
bureaucrats propose.

On 01/10/2015 16:58, harry wrote:
....
It's not a "handout".
It's our own money they're "giving back"...

Plus a significant contribution from other EU countries that don't
produce milk in anything like the volume that we do.

--
Colin Bignell

"Nightjar cpb.me.uk" "insert my surname here wrote in message
...
On 01/10/2015 16:58, harry wrote:
...
It's not a "handout".
It's our own money they're "giving back"...

Plus a significant contribution from other EU countries that don't produce
milk in anything like the volume that we do.

Not when you look at the net flow of money out of Britain to the EU.

On Friday, 2 October 2015 09:32:09 UTC+1, wrote:
On 01/10/2015 16:58, harry wrote:
...
It's not a "handout".
It's our own money they're "giving back"...

Plus a significant contribution from other EU countries that don't
produce milk in anything like the volume that we do.

--
Colin Bignell

Your usual drivel.
We are a net contributors to the EUSSR
http://businessforbritain.org/2015/0...n-in-4-months/