Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:42:45 +0100, charles wrote:

In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was knackered
with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer (it's at someone
else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2 months, it has broken,
and pitch-black midnight micturition has returned to blight their
lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely to
last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to make
sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Warning that there was discussion here a while ago that the quality of
the MK "made for B&Q" products was lower than you'd get from (say) CPC or
CEF.

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Bet you can't buy that switch anymore.

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:42:45 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

The one in my bathroom is a little older than that, and still in use.
I did need to replace the cord in about 1985, and got some from the
mechanical workshop at Granada Studios where I was doing some work.
The stuff I got was used to move ribbon microphones along those giant
studio booms. Mr Plowman will know what I mean.

It's proved to be practically unbreakable

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En el artículo ,
David Paste escribió:

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

MK. Worth every penny.

I'm slowly replacing all the sockets in my properties with MK 2747 ones.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/mk-13a-2-g...d-plug-socket-
white/15747

They come up on special offer from time to time.

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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:42:45 +0100, charles wrote:

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

'course, that presupposes that 2015 MK quality is the same as 1978 MK
quality...

On 06/08/2015 22:42, charles wrote:
In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Just wonder whether a small section of elastic/shock cord added to the
pull cord might reduce the mechanical shock somewhat.

Robert wrote:
On 06/08/2015 22:42, charles wrote:
In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Just wonder whether a small section of elastic/shock cord added to the
pull cord might reduce the mechanical shock somewhat.

IME old switches have a much softer and quieter action than modern ones.
I'd think that the operational stresses were lower, leading to longer life.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

charles wrote:

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Yeahbut the ones MK sold 38 years ago might be better than the ones they
sell now. Charles, would you consider sending him your 38 year old one?

Bill

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
charles wrote:

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Yeahbut the ones MK sold 38 years ago might be better than the ones they
sell now. Charles, would you consider sending him your 38 year old one?

No , since I'd have no light in thebathroom. ;-(

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Robert wrote:

Just wonder whether a small section of elastic/shock cord added to the
pull cord might reduce the mechanical shock somewhat.

It might, but you know those rare occasions where the light pull slips
from your grip and ricochets off the shower screen at high speed?
Imagine how much worse that will be with added bungie cord ...

In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

No reason ever to buy such fittings from B&Q as they're not even the best
price.

Go to a decent electrical wholesaler. Can't see one selling rubbish.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

En el artículo , Mike Barnes
escribió:

IME old switches have a much softer and quieter action than modern ones.

That's because they were 2A, whereas modern ones are obliged to be 6A.

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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En el artículo ,
David Paste escribió:

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

MK. Worth every penny.

NIMHO


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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 22:42:45 +0100, charles wrote:

In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was knackered
with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer (it's at someone
else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2 months, it has broken,
and pitch-black midnight micturition has returned to blight their
lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely to
last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to make
sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Warning that there was discussion here a while ago that the quality of
the MK "made for B&Q" products was lower than you'd get from (say) CPC or
CEF.


A few years ago MK did a value brand that was really poor. It was available
in both wholesalers and B&Q.

ISTR is was called "Select"

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On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 11:05:20 AM UTC+1, Mike Barnes wrote:
Robert wrote:
On 06/08/2015 22:42, charles wrote:
In article ,
David Paste wrote:
Hello all,

Recently I replaced a pull-switch in a bathroom which was
knackered with one from B&Q. I can't recall the manufacturer
(it's at someone else's house, miles away) and after a whole 2
months, it has broken, and pitch-black midnight micturition has
returned to blight their lives.

Can you please recommend a manufacturer that makes an item likely
to last longer than 2 months?

The switch is not really abused mechanically as I made sure to
make sure the string was higher up than the toddlers can reach.

With thanks,

David Paste.

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Just wonder whether a small section of elastic/shock cord added to the
pull cord might reduce the mechanical shock somewhat.

IME old switches have a much softer and quieter action than modern ones.
I'd think that the operational stresses were lower, leading to longer life.

Which is why whe we re-wired this house all the bathrooms have an external 'normal' switch, so people aren't woken in the night by the noise of the pull-switch.

Jonathan

En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

NIMHO

OK then, recommend something.

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

NIMHO

OK then, recommend something.



http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...php/389086884/

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En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...php/389086884/

Look like MK knockoffs. Even the socket design is the same, down to the
chamfered upper edge.

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...php/389086884/

Look like MK knockoffs. Even the socket design is the same, down to the
chamfered upper edge.


And it has better electrical terminals than the MK. I have fitted thousands
of them.


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Adam

En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

And it has better electrical terminals than the MK. I have fitted thousands
of them.

Are they angled like the MK ones, so you can do up the screws more
easily?

At that price I may well get a couple in to try out. Thanks.

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"Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message
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En el artículo , ARW adamwadsworth@blueyond
er.co.uk escribió:

And it has better electrical terminals than the MK. I have fitted
thousands
of them.

Are they angled like the MK ones, so you can do up the screws more
easily?

At that price I may well get a couple in to try out. Thanks.


They are not angled.

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In article ,
Andy Burns writes:
Robert wrote:

Just wonder whether a small section of elastic/shock cord added to the
pull cord might reduce the mechanical shock somewhat.

It might, but you know those rare occasions where the light pull slips
from your grip and ricochets off the shower screen at high speed?
Imagine how much worse that will be with added bungie cord ...

That reminds me of an incident someone told on here 20+ years ago.
I can't remember who it was, but he arrives home to find wife has a
juicy black eye. Starts to get even more concerned when she is rather
reluctant to explain what happened, but eventually the cause comes to
light.

Some weeks beforehand, wife picked up a large replacement wooden acorn
to replace the feeble plastic one on the pull cord. She had been nagging
for a while for him to fit it, and eventually he did so the night before.
That morning, clearing up the bathroom after the family had gone through
it, she shook out a bathtowel. It caught the large new wooden acorn and
smacked it into her eye...

There were a couple of large pottery and wood acorns on the light pulls
when I moved in here. Their weight often stopped the cord springing back
up, which caused the next user to yank harder on the cord because it
didn't work. After both cords snapped, I replaced them with a bog-standard
MK replacement cord and acorn.

--
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[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On Thursday, 6 August 2015 22:38:50 UTC+1, charles wrote:

There's an MK in this house (bathroom) which I fitted in 1978 when I
rewired. It is used a few times a day. Is 38 years of life enough?

Well... depends ;-)

On Thursday, 6 August 2015 22:55:55 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:

Warning that there was discussion here a while ago that the quality of
the MK "made for B&Q" products was lower than you'd get from (say) CPC or
CEF.

Right, thanks for this. I could have sworn the brand I bought was
MK, and I did get it from pee & spew. I shall not make that
mistake again.

Thanks again.

On Friday, 7 August 2015 16:45:05 UTC+1, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

Yeahbut the ones MK sold 38 years ago might be better than the ones they
sell now. Charles, would you consider sending him your 38 year old one?

No , since I'd have no light in thebathroom. ;-(


I could send you a candle by return postage!

On Saturday, 8 August 2015 08:31:07 UTC+1, ARW wrote:

http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk...php/389086884/

"All MODE 13A Sockets and Fused Connection Units carry the
prestigious BSI Kitemark Approval"

I'm sold! ;-)

In article , David
Paste wrote:
On Friday, 7 August 2015 16:45:05 UTC+1, charles wrote:
In article , Bill Wright
wrote:

Yeahbut the ones MK sold 38 years ago might be better than the ones
they sell now. Charles, would you consider sending him your 38 year
old one?

No , since I'd have no light in thebathroom. ;-(


I could send you a candle by return postage!

I'd need a regular supply and the switch also turns on a ventilation fan,
so I'd need lots of candls so that the risng heat turned the fan's blades

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