On Tuesday, 4 August 2015 21:02:30 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote

Yep I know, which is why I was wondering what
the point of the PAT test would be in such a case.

It finds some defective stuff that the most
stupid users wouldn't notice was a problem.

and what does it do when it finds such stuff, apart from
the Unit giving a buzz or bleep to indicate it hasn't passed.

That tells even someone as stupid as you that that device
should not be used until it is repaired or replaced, stupid.

No it tells them to put a faulty sticker on it rather than a passed
sticker, stupid. You can't replace it, you repair it or scrap it,
stupid.

Scrapping it sees it replaced, ****wit.

No it doesn't ****wit. When I scrap an item, a
new one doesn't magically appear out of thin air.

Even terminal ****wits such as yourself can usually work
out that the replacement is obtained in the same way
the original was,

not in every case it isn;t.
This year we are replacing 23 of these
http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equ...rainer-34-0942

with these.
http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/207010

Differnt system entirely.


if someone is actually stupid enough
to lend them a seeing eye dog and a white cane.

That's what people tend to use when blind what would you suggest a blind dog and a black cane ?

Personally I'm hoping an app can be made that could do away with such 20th century ideas.

The specs of any equipment that needs to be purchased
are discussed as to what is needed what we can afford
and how many, hopefully we improve on what we had.

Only a terminal ****wit such as yourself would do
that with a power cord that has just been failed.

Why, this si the reason we brought 20 short IEC, because the ones suplied were 1.8 metres we can use them for something else.


The electrical PAT testers have no say in this
at all, all they can do is put a sticker on it.

They can shove it up your arse too.

No they can't as they work from about midnight onward. Haven't seen them for two years, previously they used to do it just before xmas break when the studetns were off and they'd start about 3pm.


Not that I think PAT testing makes any sense at all.

So why is it done ?

Because you fools were stupid enough to go that route.

Whose are these fools that want H&S ?

Whoever produced that stupid **** you fools ended up with, stupid.

That's why are asked who they are as I don;t know.

Your problem, as always.

Not my problem, as I say (to managment) they can come and electrically test when they want and as often as they want why should I care ?
Who ever makes teh rules on H&S has decided that EVERY piece of electrical Why should I care if they test a cable or equipment that isn't used and/or won't be used.

Again not my problem, all I have to do is make sure equipment isn't hidden from the testers and/or not tested that should be tested.
Typically every year I get 1-3 items that fail out of 3,000-4000.
This year it was just one IEC lead that looked a bit scuffed and had a slight melt in it, so I just cut both ends off and threw it out. I've got over 100 in stock, and with 11 more with our irons it's no big deal.

if I'd attempted to repair the lead it would need re-testing at ~£1.49 and the testers aren;t due back until jan. 2016 anyway.