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According to the local council:
"All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. When pressed on the point of homeowners doing DIY at weekends and early evenings: According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. That seems incongruent with DIY hobbyists who work a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri job, How are they supposed to carry out DIY with such restrictions? Personally I would have thought till 7.00pm weekdays for noisy activities would have been OK and that all day on Saturday and Sundays from 9am to 5pm. Incidentally, the use of lawnmowers in summer evenings is OK as no one has ever complained about a lawnmower in over 20 years! |
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On Friday, 24 July 2015 12:29:17 UTC+1, Stephen wrote:
According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. Does the blender I used to mix up the wallpaper paste last night count as a power tool? I couldn't see any other way of getting the lumps out. Owain |
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wrote in message ... On Friday, 24 July 2015 12:29:17 UTC+1, Stephen wrote: According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. Does the blender I used to mix up the wallpaper paste last night count as a power tool? Corse it does and you will be publicly tarred and feathered because you did that. I couldn't see any other way of getting the lumps out. No excuse. |
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Stephen wrote:
According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. When pressed on the point of homeowners doing DIY at weekends and early evenings: According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. That seems incongruent with DIY hobbyists who work a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri job, How are they supposed to carry out DIY with such restrictions? Personally I would have thought till 7.00pm weekdays for noisy activities would have been OK and that all day on Saturday and Sundays from 9am to 5pm. Incidentally, the use of lawnmowers in summer evenings is OK as no one has ever complained about a lawnmower in over 20 years! I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. |
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I once heard the story of a new town in Florida - called Celebration. It had firm rules about grass height, no vans on drieways, no washing on lines outside permitted times, etc. There was a rush of people to buy properties because they had previously had their living environment blighted by those who want to create a shanty town. |
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"DerbyBorn" wrote in message 2.236... I once heard the story of a new town in Florida - called Celebration. It had firm rules about grass height, no vans on drieways, no washing on lines outside permitted times, etc. And no dissing Mickey Mouse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebration,_Florida michael adams .... There was a rush of people to buy properties because they had previously had their living environment blighted by those who want to create a shanty town. |
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On 24/07/2015 13:15, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
Stephen wrote: According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. When pressed on the point of homeowners doing DIY at weekends and early evenings: According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. That seems incongruent with DIY hobbyists who work a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri job, How are they supposed to carry out DIY with such restrictions? Personally I would have thought till 7.00pm weekdays for noisy activities would have been OK and that all day on Saturday and Sundays from 9am to 5pm. Incidentally, the use of lawnmowers in summer evenings is OK as no one has ever complained about a lawnmower in over 20 years! I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. I am aware of notices being given to Housing Association tenants, where some were working on cars in what was close to a business. |
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Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street - and in theory, that would include washing it. If you rent a property, the landlord might also reasonably ban it too on the driveway, etc due to the likely mess. But neighbours can't stop you doing this on your own property. Unless doing so as a business. Or noise etc - same as anything else. -- *Vegetarians taste great* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street - and in theory, that would include washing it. If you rent a property, the landlord might also reasonably ban it too on the driveway, etc due to the likely mess. I forgot to mention that it's in a fairly posh residential estate. I think you'd have to be brave to work on a car in the actual street :-) He said something about someone's cat drinking anti-freeze, although I don't remember if he said it had actually happened, or if it was precautionary. Must have been an important cat, if it really did happen. But neighbours can't stop you doing this on your own property. Unless doing so as a business. Or noise etc - same as anything else. |
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Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street - and in theory, that would include washing it. If you rent a property, the landlord might also reasonably ban it too on the driveway, etc due to the likely mess. I forgot to mention that it's in a fairly posh residential estate. I think you'd have to be brave to work on a car in the actual street :-) I do. No option in this part of London - very few indeed have off road parking. Of course if it's a newish estate, it might be a condition in the deeds. But most newish posh estates would have garages, so how would neighbours know what you do? ;-) He said something about someone's cat drinking anti-freeze, although I don't remember if he said it had actually happened, or if it was precautionary. Must have been an important cat, if it really did happen. Tell whoever owned the cat to keep it on his own property, then. ;-) But neighbours can't stop you doing this on your own property. Unless doing so as a business. Or noise etc - same as anything else. -- *Eat well, stay fit, die anyway Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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My cut off time for DIY was 9:00pm whilst I was working, mind you we lived on a main road near traffic lights and it was difficult to compete with the traffic noise, the late brakers and the ******s with a boot full of speakers who insisted on letting everyone know the crap music they listened to. However, if I had a particularly noisey job on, warning the neighbours always met with approval as long as I stuck to my cut off times and did not make too much of a habit of it. Although the house was a semi, I was fortunate not to have any party wall issues as he was in Abu Dhabi most of the time.
I do have some friends who work in the building trade who work overnight especially on refurbishment projects in commercial properties where business needs to take place during the day. So I wonder how these rules apply in those circumstances? Richard |
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On 24/07/15 14:29, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street - and in theory, that would include washing it. If you rent a property, the landlord might also reasonably ban it too on the driveway, etc due to the likely mess. In theory. I've changed brake lines and all sorts out in the road. However it was an ex council estate and people are pretty open minded about rust buckets on jacks in the road. But neighbours can't stop you doing this on your own property. Unless doing so as a business. Or noise etc - same as anything else. Mind you the lease on your flat (even if it comes with an allocated space) might. However, whether anyone cares depends on whether you **** anyone off. Noone is going to care if you change a wheel or even the oil (as long as you don't spill it everywhere). What they don't want is someone running a trade from their parking spot. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street Well that ****s up the AA/RAC etc then:-) -- Adam |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:44:00 +0100, ARW wrote:
You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street Well that ****s up the AA/RAC etc then:-) Ha, how many faults on a modern car can be fixed at the roadside? Lets see what I have had: Computer deflates suspension and refuses to play. Recovered to garage, faulty ride height sensor. Loud clattering noise from engine, lack of power. Recovered to garage, knackered injector seal and injector. Driving along engines just dies, strange combination of warning lights. Refuses to start. Recovered to garage, dead ECU. There's another air suspension fault in there some where as well. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 25/07/2015 01:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:44:00 +0100, ARW wrote: You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street Well that ****s up the AA/RAC etc then:-) Ha, how many faults on a modern car can be fixed at the roadside? Lets see what I have had: Computer deflates suspension and refuses to play. Recovered to garage, faulty ride height sensor. Loud clattering noise from engine, lack of power. Recovered to garage, knackered injector seal and injector. Driving along engines just dies, strange combination of warning lights. Refuses to start. Recovered to garage, dead ECU. There's another air suspension fault in there some where as well. And people thought the hydropneumatic citroen suspension was iffy :-) For the original question : Fuel, flat battery and punctures are the obvious ones. Though it would be pretty dim for somebody to complain about fixing any of them. |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.co.uk... On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:44:00 +0100, ARW wrote: You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street Well that ****s up the AA/RAC etc then:-) Ha, how many faults on a modern car can be fixed at the roadside? More than you might think. Lets see what I have had: Computer deflates suspension and refuses to play. Recovered to garage, faulty ride height sensor. Loud clattering noise from engine, lack of power. Recovered to garage, knackered injector seal and injector. Driving along engines just dies, strange combination of warning lights. Refuses to start. Recovered to garage, dead ECU. There's another air suspension fault in there some where as well. I've had a battery die and fixed that myself by getting my mate to give me a lift to the suppliers of new batteries. Another mate of mine has just bought a car off ebay. They showed up at the seller's and couldn't get the car to start. They got the price knocked back from the original $2K to just $500, brought it home on a car trailer, and then he did 'something electronic' to it and it works fine. I got that story second hand yesterday from another mate and haven't had a chance to ask him what he actually did with that Hyundai Sonata or Santa Fe, not clear which it is yet, haven't bothered to walk over and check. The road service could certainly have done the same thing. |
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On 25/07/2015 01:00, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:44:00 +0100, ARW wrote: You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street Well that ****s up the AA/RAC etc then:-) Ha, how many faults on a modern car can be fixed at the roadside? Lets see what I have had: Computer deflates suspension and refuses to play. Recovered to garage, faulty ride height sensor. Loud clattering noise from engine, lack of power. Recovered to garage, knackered injector seal and injector. Driving along engines just dies, strange combination of warning lights. Refuses to start. Recovered to garage, dead ECU. There's another air suspension fault in there some where as well. Hmm, in about 1.5 million miles I have had the following faults that stopped my own car.. Nothing although I did have to drive one home with a broken clutch cable. In the other half a million driving someone else's car I have had.. Two total clutch failures and undrivable , one start stop that would start again, once due to a broken alternator belt and one faulty clutch actuator, one total brake failure. None of which the AA would have been able to fix because they just don't have the parts for foreign cars. The foreign cars appear to break down far more often in my case, the ones assembled in Britain have broken down except for the clutch cable and that I knew was faulty but hadn't got around to fixing it, in fact the wd40 I used to try and free it up my have made it worse before it broke. It appears WD40 is not a good lubricant. |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk... On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:44:00 +0100, ARW wrote: You're not allowed to do any work on a car on the street Well that ****s up the AA/RAC etc then:-) Ha, how many faults on a modern car can be fixed at the roadside? Lets see what I have had: Computer deflates suspension and refuses to play. Recovered to garage, faulty ride height sensor. Loud clattering noise from engine, lack of power. Recovered to garage, knackered injector seal and injector. Driving along engines just dies, strange combination of warning lights. Refuses to start. Recovered to garage, dead ECU. There's another air suspension fault in there some where as well. Buy a better car. Yours sucks big time. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:15:20 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. Sounds like Frinton-on-sea. |
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writes On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:15:20 +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I was talking to a bloke who said you're not even allowed to work on your car where he lives - not even change the coolant or oil. He reckons one of the neighbours would report you if you tried. And this is in England. Sounds like Frinton-on-sea. Harwich for the continent Frinton for the incontinent ... -- Graeme |
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"Stephen" wrote in message
... According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. I cannot remember any complaints when I added new sockets and lighting at the morgue on a night shift. -- Adam |
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writes I cannot remember any complaints when I added new sockets and lighting at the morgue on a night shift. You were working in the dead of night :-) -- Graeme |
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On 25/07/2015 07:51, News wrote:
In message , ARW writes I cannot remember any complaints when I added new sockets and lighting at the morgue on a night shift. You were working in the dead of night :-) Sounds like a dead interesting shift... :-) |
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 14:30:25 +0100, Stephen wrote:
On 25/07/2015 07:51, News wrote: In message , ARW writes I cannot remember any complaints when I added new sockets and lighting at the morgue on a night shift. You were working in the dead of night :-) Sounds like a dead interesting shift... :-) Depends on ones, er, 'interests'. -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... "Stephen" wrote in message ... According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. I cannot remember any complaints when I added new sockets and lighting at the morgue on a night shift. Just so long as you remembered to switch the fridges back on. michael adams .... |
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"michael adams" wrote in message
... "ARW" wrote in message ... "Stephen" wrote in message ... According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. I cannot remember any complaints when I added new sockets and lighting at the morgue on a night shift. Just so long as you remembered to switch the fridges back on. I have worked in worse places. -- Adam |
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Stephen Wrote in message:
According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. When pressed on the point of homeowners doing DIY at weekends and early evenings: According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. That seems incongruent with DIY hobbyists who work a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri job, How are they supposed to carry out DIY with such restrictions? Personally I would have thought till 7.00pm weekdays for noisy activities would have been OK and that all day on Saturday and Sundays from 9am to 5pm. Incidentally, the use of lawnmowers in summer evenings is OK as no one has ever complained about a lawnmower in over 20 years! IME necessary noise such as lawn mowing or occasional DIY is far easier to tolerate than loud music or car racing. Phil -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 12:29:17 PM UTC+1, Stephen wrote:
According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." Here in Cambridge the city council merely says: "if you intend to carry out DIY, please inform your neighbours in advance. Avoid DIY in the early morning or evening when neighbours may be trying to sleep." Robert |
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"michael newport" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 12:29:29 +0100, Stephen wrote: According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." The rules regarding construction noise would make sense for businesses such as builders, sparkies, plumbers and carpenters/joiners etc. When pressed on the point of homeowners doing DIY at weekends and early evenings: According to the council, wallpapering or painting can be done at *any* time, even through the night, but power tools must only be used during the times stated above. That seems incongruent with DIY hobbyists who work a 9 to 5 Mon to Fri job, How are they supposed to carry out DIY with such restrictions? Personally I would have thought till 7.00pm weekdays for noisy activities would have been OK and that all day on Saturday and Sundays from 9am to 5pm. Incidentally, the use of lawnmowers in summer evenings is OK as no one has ever complained about a lawnmower in over 20 years! The whole idea of set hours is rather academic in any case nowadays, with maybe more people having to work shifts. How about those armies of "driveway pavers" that pollute for hundreds of yards with those soddin' angle grinders. Someone local had his entire back garden paved and it took 5 weeks, 08:00 to 17:00 ++ every day! It really ought to be illegal to make that much noise pollution - but hey, noise pollution is not real pollution, right! The same sort of thing applies to "tree surgeons" who park their shredders in residential streets - often in the road backing onto the customers back garden, rather than the customers own road, and grind away for hours on end. Although for health and safety reasons its noticeable that most of them are at least supplied with ear defenders. Rather than taking the stuff away and grinding it down outside their own premises, one of their director's houses maybe, or on an industrial estate somewhere. michael adams .... |
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On 7/24/2015 1:27 PM, michael adams wrote:
The same sort of thing applies to "tree surgeons" who park their shredders in residential streets - often in the road backing onto the customers back garden, rather than the customers own road, and grind away for hours on end. Although for health and safety IME they can go through a large tree in relatively little time... reasons its noticeable that most of them are at least supplied with ear defenders. Rather than taking the stuff away and grinding it down outside their own premises, one of their director's houses maybe, or on an industrial estate somewhere. Not a very practical solution though is it... You would be complaining about all the coming and going of lorries loading up branches instead then! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 7/24/2015 1:27 PM, michael adams wrote: The same sort of thing applies to "tree surgeons" who park their shredders in residential streets - often in the road backing onto the customers back garden, rather than the customers own road, and grind away for hours on end. Although for health and safety IME they can go through a large tree in relatively little time... There we'll have to agree to differ on that one then. IME it can take a whole day to take down a large tree, saw up the branches and the trunk, carry it all through to the road and put the former through the chipper. That's 8 hours of otherwise avoidable noise which can be heard streets away in all directions. reasons its noticeable that most of them are at least supplied with ear defenders. Rather than taking the stuff away and grinding it down outside their own premises, one of their director's houses maybe, or on an industrial estate somewhere. Not a very practical solution though is it... You would be complaining about all the coming and going of lorries loading up branches instead then! .... Not really. Throwing branches onto the backs of a succession of lorries makes far less noise than feeding them into a shredder which can be heard four or five streets away in all directions. Although its obviously much cheaper for the operators to use the chipper. michael adams .... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote michael adams wrote The same sort of thing applies to "tree surgeons" who park their shredders in residential streets - often in the road backing onto the customers back garden, rather than the customers own road, and grind away for hours on end. Although for health and safety IME they can go through a large tree in relatively little time... There we'll have to agree to differ on that one then. Nope. IME it can take a whole day to take down a large tree, saw up the branches and the trunk, carry it all through to the road and put the former through the chipper. Didn’t take anything like that long when they did that with any of my neighbours trees or one of mine. And the one of mine was a ****ing great tree too. That's 8 hours of otherwise avoidable noise Bull****. You'd still have the noise of the chainsaws and whatever they use to get the ****ing great logs onto the trucks and the noise of the trucks coming and going. which can be heard streets away in all directions. Same with the chainsaws and whatever they use to put the ****ing great logs onto the trucks and the trucks. reasons its noticeable that most of them are at least supplied with ear defenders. Rather than taking the stuff away and grinding it down outside their own premises, one of their director's houses maybe, or on an industrial estate somewhere. Not a very practical solution though is it... You would be complaining about all the coming and going of lorries loading up branches instead then! Not really. Yes, really. Throwing branches onto the backs of a succession of lorries Pity about the chainsaws used to cut them off. makes far less noise than feeding them into a shredder which can be heard four or five streets away in all directions. Although its obviously much cheaper for the operators to use the chipper. You've ****ed that up completely too. |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... michael adams wrote Didn’t take anything like that long when they did that with any of my neighbours trees or one of mine. Of course it didn't. They just chop them off at the bottom and the worst that can happen is the odd crushed kangaroo. You silly boy ! michael adams .... |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Bull****. You'd still have the noise of the chainsaws Chainsaws cut branches in 4-6 ft lengths in the open air. Chippers and shredders cut branches in 1/2 inch lengths inside an enclosed chute which amplifies the noise So thats a minimum of 96 times as many cuts, which are possibly twice as loud as a result of the ampification which makes 192 times as much noise. HTH michael adams .... |
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Domestic "noise" pollution
On 7/24/2015 7:58 PM, michael adams wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 7/24/2015 1:27 PM, michael adams wrote: The same sort of thing applies to "tree surgeons" who park their shredders in residential streets - often in the road backing onto the customers back garden, rather than the customers own road, and grind away for hours on end. Although for health and safety IME they can go through a large tree in relatively little time... There we'll have to agree to differ on that one then. IME it can take a whole day to take down a large tree, saw up the branches and the trunk, carry it all through to the road and put the former through the chipper. That's 8 hours of otherwise avoidable noise which can be heard streets away in all directions. Well I had a *very* large black poplar tree taken down last year... it probably took five hours in total to take it down (since it was close to another house - the bits had to be roped down rather than dropped). My neighbour (a tree surgeon) drove his chipper[1] into the garden so there was not far to carry the stuff. Total time spent actually chipping was probably less than an hour in total. The noise was probably less intrusive than that of the chainsaws. [1] A fairly serious affair, that he forked out about £26K for. It will shred a 12' long branch in three or four seconds. reasons its noticeable that most of them are at least supplied with ear defenders. Rather than taking the stuff away and grinding it down outside their own premises, one of their director's houses maybe, or on an industrial estate somewhere. Not a very practical solution though is it... You would be complaining about all the coming and going of lorries loading up branches instead then! ... Not really. Throwing branches onto the backs of a succession of lorries makes far less noise than feeding them into a shredder which can be heard four or five streets away in all directions. Although its obviously much cheaper for the operators to use the chipper. Can't say I found it an issue personally. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 3:17:11 AM UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 7/24/2015 7:58 PM, michael adams wrote: "John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 7/24/2015 1:27 PM, michael adams wrote: The same sort of thing applies to "tree surgeons" who park their shredders in residential streets - often in the road backing onto the customers back garden, rather than the customers own road, and grind away for hours on end. Although for health and safety IME they can go through a large tree in relatively little time... There we'll have to agree to differ on that one then. IME it can take a whole day to take down a large tree, saw up the branches and the trunk, carry it all through to the road and put the former through the chipper. That's 8 hours of otherwise avoidable noise which can be heard streets away in all directions. Well I had a *very* large black poplar tree taken down last year... it probably took five hours in total to take it down (since it was close to another house - the bits had to be roped down rather than dropped). My neighbour (a tree surgeon) drove his chipper[1] into the garden so there was not far to carry the stuff. Total time spent actually chipping was probably less than an hour in total. The noise was probably less intrusive than that of the chainsaws. [1] A fairly serious affair, that he forked out about £26K for. It will shred a 12' long branch in three or four seconds. reasons its noticeable that most of them are at least supplied with ear defenders. Rather than taking the stuff away and grinding it down outside their own premises, one of their director's houses maybe, or on an industrial estate somewhere. Not a very practical solution though is it... You would be complaining about all the coming and going of lorries loading up branches instead then! ... Not really. Throwing branches onto the backs of a succession of lorries makes far less noise than feeding them into a shredder which can be heard four or five streets away in all directions. Although its obviously much cheaper for the operators to use the chipper. Can't say I found it an issue personally. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ About 15 years ago we had a copse of about 140 Poplars which had got to about 50ft high. I though them too close to the house so we had them removed. Took less than a day. They asked if I wanted the chippings for compost so I got a large pile left. They removed most of the trunks in 8ft lengths which led me to believe they had a commercial value, though they denied that. |
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"Jonno" wrote in message
... Stephen scribbled According to the local council: "All DIY/Construction noise must be carried out during the hours of 8.00am to 5.00pm Monday to Friday and 9.00am till 1.00pm on Saturdays and none at all on Sundays." A load of ********. +1 -- Adam |
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