I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......

On 11/05/2015 07:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......


It can be done, but it is not easy to do. You can separate the panes and
dry them out and reseal them (apparently).
I've also heard of some people drilling a tiny hole in the corner of the
outer pane. It's said that this releases the condensation.
I wouldn't know how effective this is, plus there's always the danger of
cracking the glass during the drilling process.

On 11/05/2015 08:17, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2015 07:29:36 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 11/05/2015 07:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......


It can be done, but it is not easy to do. You can separate the panes and
dry them out and reseal them (apparently).
I've also heard of some people drilling a tiny hole in the corner of the
outer pane. It's said that this releases the condensation.
I wouldn't know how effective this is, plus there's always the danger of
cracking the glass during the drilling process.

I had one d/g window starting to mist up late last summer. Drilled two
holes through to the central gap, one each in opposite corners of the
_OUTSIDE_ pane, using a 3mm drill for glass/tiles (like this one
http://tinyurl.com/k86oy9a ) in a Dremel, light pressure and with
plenty of water sprayed on from a garden spray with the nozzle set to
give a jet rather than a spray. Condensation cleared over a week or
two, and has been OK through the winter. No change in the insulating
behaviour either.

Search Google groups for 'Misting DG window and drilling glass' in
September last year for a fuller description and result.

But if there are white streaks on the inner surface of the d/g because
the condensation problem has been there for a long time, those are due
to salts deposited on the glass and they won't clear by simply
ventilating the gap.

Agreed.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you examine the spacer bars beween the glasses, you will see tiny holes.

The spacerbars are filled with a dessicant, in your case it is now expended.
The seal on the units fails quite quickly, the only thing that keeps them
condensation free is the dessicant.

It's a big ask to keep the units hermetically sealed with the variations in
atmosheric pressure and temperature.
South facing units fail first because of the sunshine/heating
effect/temperature difference between inner and outer glass.
Drilling holes negates much of the insulating effect.

Take them down to a glazier & they will make up identical ones for you.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse project.

On 11/05/2015 08:32, harryagain wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse project.


Or glass for making your own solar panels?

"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 08:32, harryagain wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
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I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any
DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse
project.


Or glass for making your own solar panels?

we got a good deal from the local glazier who did a superb job......

On 11/05/2015 09:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 08:32, harryagain wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any
DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse
project.


Or glass for making your own solar panels?

we got a good deal from the local glazier who did a superb job......


Did he renew the glass or reseal the existing?

"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 09:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 08:32, harryagain wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any
DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse
project.


Or glass for making your own solar panels?

we got a good deal from the local glazier who did a superb job......


Did he renew the glass or reseal the existing?

yes new units he replaced six and it cost £624...which I thought was OK
.......none of this e glass rubbish though.....wife was wanting new windows
no doubt plastic but NorDan are quality frames so no need .....

On 11/05/2015 09:08, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 09:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 08:32, harryagain wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any
DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse
project.


Or glass for making your own solar panels?

we got a good deal from the local glazier who did a superb job......


Did he renew the glass or reseal the existing?

yes new units he replaced six and it cost £624...which I thought was OK
......none of this e glass rubbish though.....wife was wanting new windows
no doubt plastic but NorDan are quality frames so no need .....


Fair enough.

On Mon, 11 May 2015 09:01:57 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

"Bod" wrote in message
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On 11/05/2015 08:32, harryagain wrote:
"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there any
DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......
If you have enough, the old units are quite handy for a greenhouse
project.


Or glass for making your own solar panels?

we got a good deal from the local glazier who did a superb job......


One hour 41 minutes after your original posting.

That is really quick service on a Monday morning, at that time most jocks are
still ****ed out of their brains from the weekend.

One hour 41 minutes after your original posting.

That is really quick service on a Monday morning, at that time most jocks
are
still ****ed out of their brains from the weekend.





What part of 'I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace' do you
not understand? .....

Bod wrote:
On 11/05/2015 08:17, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2015 07:29:36 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 11/05/2015 07:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there
any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......


It can be done, but it is not easy to do. You can separate the panes and
dry them out and reseal them (apparently).
I've also heard of some people drilling a tiny hole in the corner of the
outer pane. It's said that this releases the condensation.
I wouldn't know how effective this is, plus there's always the danger of
cracking the glass during the drilling process.

I had one d/g window starting to mist up late last summer. Drilled two
holes through to the central gap, one each in opposite corners of the
_OUTSIDE_ pane, using a 3mm drill for glass/tiles (like this one
http://tinyurl.com/k86oy9a ) in a Dremel, light pressure and with
plenty of water sprayed on from a garden spray with the nozzle set to
give a jet rather than a spray. Condensation cleared over a week or
two, and has been OK through the winter. No change in the insulating
behaviour either.

Search Google groups for 'Misting DG window and drilling glass' in
September last year for a fuller description and result.

But if there are white streaks on the inner surface of the d/g because
the condensation problem has been there for a long time, those are due
to salts deposited on the glass and they won't clear by simply
ventilating the gap.

Agreed.

.... but don't try this on toughened glass units like most patio doors :-(

Chris K

On 11/05/2015 18:28, ChrisK wrote:
Bod wrote:
On 11/05/2015 08:17, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2015 07:29:36 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 11/05/2015 07:20, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
I had a load of double glazing units I had to replace.....is there
any DIY
ways to solve this problem without replacement ? ......


It can be done, but it is not easy to do. You can separate the panes
and
dry them out and reseal them (apparently).
I've also heard of some people drilling a tiny hole in the corner of
the
outer pane. It's said that this releases the condensation.
I wouldn't know how effective this is, plus there's always the
danger of
cracking the glass during the drilling process.

I had one d/g window starting to mist up late last summer. Drilled two
holes through to the central gap, one each in opposite corners of the
_OUTSIDE_ pane, using a 3mm drill for glass/tiles (like this one
http://tinyurl.com/k86oy9a ) in a Dremel, light pressure and with
plenty of water sprayed on from a garden spray with the nozzle set to
give a jet rather than a spray. Condensation cleared over a week or
two, and has been OK through the winter. No change in the insulating
behaviour either.

Search Google groups for 'Misting DG window and drilling glass' in
September last year for a fuller description and result.

But if there are white streaks on the inner surface of the d/g because
the condensation problem has been there for a long time, those are due
to salts deposited on the glass and they won't clear by simply
ventilating the gap.

Agreed.

... but don't try this on toughened glass units like most patio doors :-(

Chris K

A handy tip.