Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:10:42 +0100, Gary wrote:

Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Have you tried any of the usual things - cleaning up old install files
from Windows Update and the like?

Windows gradually clogs up and slows down without some housekeeping now
and then.

Have you looked at the Performance Monitor to confirm that it is the
processor which is being over used? It may be some other component.

*If you have a lot of spare CPU capacity then a faster processor may not
solve your problems.

*If you are running out of memory (and therefore swapping to disc) then
more memory may solve your problem.

*If your disc is being maxed out then (as already suggested) a faster HDD
or an SSD could solve your problem.

For specific advice it would help us if you told us what mother board and
processor you currently have, what memory (amount, type, speed), which HDD
and how much free space.


If you change mother board Microsoft will regard that as a new computer -
so you will have to re-authenticate your OS. So you will need the licence
key. I haven't personally re-authenticated a Windows system but I
understand that it can be done.


Cheers


Dave R


--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

Time for linux perhaps. Or you could defrag what's left of windows

I see two routes:

1/. New machine, new windows reinsmtall everything and copy old disk

2/. New disk more RAM install Linux and copy old data across and install
everything - up to to windows in a VM if you must




Gary


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

--
Cheers, Rob

On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...



--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On Monday, 20 April 2015 14:10:44 UTC+1, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart

no

or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

I'd stop unused programs starting up at boot time, that's usually the culprit. Then replace apps with better written unbloated versions.

Or put linux on a new machine. Seriously.


NT

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...

:-)

Depending on how often you boot it may not be worth a lot of effort just
to save 22.5 seconds once in a blue moon.

If mission critical software runs faster, of course.....

Cheers

Dave R

--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

Have you actually done any maintaining of things on the machine?
Ccleaner, a defrag, and a look to see what crap is running in the
background that need not be?


All reinstalling will do is put the same issue off till next time. i
remember speeding a machine up just after Christmas by the simple task of
uninstalling stealth software downloaded silently to run some girly type
xmas card animation software that ran every bloomin time and used up 26
percent of processor while doing nothing at all. Who writes and tests this
crap?

Brian

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Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


"Gary" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump into
life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the nightmare of
having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Except when they fail of course.
I still think there is mileage in cleaning out the dross.
Brian

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"RJH" wrote in message
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On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

--
Cheers, Rob

On 20/04/15 16:13, David wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...

:-)

Depending on how often you boot it may not be worth a lot of effort just
to save 22.5 seconds once in a blue moon.

If mission critical software runs faster, of course.....

the most noticeable thing is that if you are RAM limited and cant hold
every program you might want in RAM permanently, *they* load up a lot
faster as well.

I haven't checked out swap speed up, but that to must be fairly massive


Cheers

Dave R



--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not true.
It depends on how big a change it is.
Going from an old AMD board to a new Intel board will probably struggle.
I have swapped disks between similar main boards without problems.

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher
escribió:

Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

Complete and utter bull****.

--
:: je suis Charlie :: yo soy Charlie :: ik ben Charlie ::

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:17:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/04/15 16:13, David wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to
jump into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to
the nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...

:-)

Depending on how often you boot it may not be worth a lot of effort
just to save 22.5 seconds once in a blue moon.

If mission critical software runs faster, of course.....

the most noticeable thing is that if you are RAM limited and cant hold
every program you might want in RAM permanently, *they* load up a lot
faster as well.

I haven't checked out swap speed up, but that to must be fairly massive


Cheers

Dave R


IIRC you are advised to avoid swapping on an SSD as this ups the wear and
shortens the service life.

If you are running out of RAM and can't get any more in, then the system
is probably not suited to the workload.

I know that back in the day swapping/paging was necessary because of the
high cost of memory, but these days you should be able to run most things
without having to swap.

There was a period when XP systems ran into glue because they were sold
with 521 KB and worked fine until creeping bloat filled all the memory.

At that point, upgrading to 1 GB suddenly speeded the system up again.

These days you need more - my system is using 4.1 GB of the 6 GB available
but this is probably due to me having a large number of tabs open in
Chrome.

Cheers

Dave R

--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Have you actually done any maintaining of things on the machine?
Ccleaner, a defrag, and a look to see what crap is running in the
background that need not be?


All reinstalling will do is put the same issue off till next time. i
remember speeding a machine up just after Christmas by the simple task of
uninstalling stealth software downloaded silently to run some girly type
xmas card animation software that ran every bloomin time and used up 26
percent of processor while doing nothing at all. Who writes and tests this
crap?


"Gary" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Malwarebytes, AV, Spybot, Superantispyware, defrag, msconfig, (Run in W7)
defrag before you do something Very silly like trying to shove a new
motherboard in.
SSD ffs .........!
You can also untick some MS Services that you do not need. Google is your
friend here, but be careful.
I did all of the above to a machine that was slower than Britains economic
growth and got excellent results.

Gary scribbled


Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Here's a free program you can use to check if you HD is causing your
problems

http://malwaretips.com/threads/hard-...onal-4-2-4-40-
free-full-version.33251/

Gary wrote

Hi Guys

What about us animals ?

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting
slower and slower.

Win tends to do that.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7
to jump into life with a new younger and faster hart

Usually if you make a big enough jump in the cpu performance
particularly.

or am I doomed to the nightmare of having to do a new install?

It isn't that big of a nightmare now with the files and settings
transfer wizard.

And the other approach is to do a repair install after you
have installed the new motherboard/cpu/memory.

Anyone on here tried it?

Yep, plenty have.

On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

It is worth having a go with various anti-malware delousers and/or
registry cleaners and disk defragmenters (after testing that the disk
itself isn't failing). An astonishing amount of dross can clutter up an
old Windoze machine and slow it to a crawl as it gets older.

One friends PC I saw had become so slow you could go and make a cup of
tea and drink it before it finished booting. Someone else had helpfully
turned off SMART to avoid the screen cluttering up with error msgs. The
thing was seriously on its last legs and beyond all help.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Hardly ever works if the OS notices a "significant" change it will be
awkward and want to be revalidated. If you are out of luck some radical
hardware changes can result in a machine that refuses to boot.

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Make sure everything is properly backed up and assume the worst. Adding
an SSD as the master boot disk is probably a better option for extending
a PC's life (again you will need to reconfigure the OS).

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

David wrote
Gary wrote

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting
slower and slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7
to jump into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I
doomed to the nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Have you tried any of the usual things - cleaning up
old install files from Windows Update and the like?

Those have no effect on the speed of the system.

Windows gradually clogs up and slows down
without some housekeeping now and then.

Have you looked at the Performance Monitor to confirm that it is the
processor which is being over used? It may be some other component.

Like some stupid anti virus.

*If you have a lot of spare CPU capacity then a
faster processor may not solve your problems.

*If you are running out of memory (and therefore swapping
to disc) then more memory may solve your problem.

*If your disc is being maxed out then (as already suggested)
a faster HDD or an SSD could solve your problem.

For specific advice it would help us if you told us what mother
board and processor you currently have, what memory (amount,
type, speed), which HDD and how much free space.

If you change mother board Microsoft will regard that as a new computer

No it does not.

so you will have to re-authenticate your OS. So you will
need the licence key. I haven't personally re-authenticated
a Windows system but I understand that it can be done.

Yes, its completely trivial to do that.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

A repair install works fine.

Time for linux perhaps. Or you could defrag what's left of windows

I see two routes:

1/. New machine, new windows reinsmtall everything and copy old disk

2/. New disk more RAM install Linux and copy old data across and install
everything - up to to windows in a VM if you must

"Dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not true.
It depends on how big a change it is.
Going from an old AMD board to a new Intel board will probably struggle.
I have swapped disks between similar main boards without problems.

And its completely trivial to do a repair install
when the motherboard is completely different.

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
...
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

It is worth having a go with various anti-malware delousers and/or
registry cleaners and disk defragmenters (after testing that the disk
itself isn't failing). An astonishing amount of dross can clutter up an
old Windoze machine and slow it to a crawl as it gets older.

One friends PC I saw had become so slow you could go and make a cup of tea
and drink it before it finished booting. Someone else had helpfully turned
off SMART to avoid the screen cluttering up with error msgs. The thing was
seriously on its last legs and beyond all help.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Hardly ever works if the OS notices a "significant" change it will be
awkward and want to be revalidated. If you are out of luck some radical
hardware changes can result in a machine that refuses to boot.

But is trivially fixable with a repair install.

Anyone on here tried it?

Make sure everything is properly backed up and assume the worst. Adding an
SSD as the master boot disk is probably a better option for extending a
PC's life (again you will need to reconfigure the OS).

On 20/04/2015 16:13, David wrote:
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...

:-)

Depending on how often you boot it may not be worth a lot of effort just
to save 22.5 seconds once in a blue moon.

The big gain is in application and library load times rather than boot
time. Yes boot is faster, but you don't do that nearly as often. Having
Word etc load in around 0.5 secs each time you open a doc soon adds up
to a big saving in your time. PS CS5.1 x64 loads in 3 secs. Firefox in
under 1 sec etc.



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John.

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On 20/04/2015 15:41, David wrote:

If you change mother board Microsoft will regard that as a new computer -

Product activation (most notably on MS Office from 2002 on, and Windows
from XP on) will often notice that the the mobo has been changed and
require that you reactivate. Normally if some time (several months) has
passed since the last time it was activated, then it will often
reactivate over the internet without any further problem.

Sometimes however it might refuse and you will need to phone MS.
Sometimes the phone based automated activation will then pass it. Other
times you may have to go as far as a real person.

What happens then depends on what you say, and what you are activating.
In the case of an OEM version of windows (i.e. not one bought at retail)
you are in effect in violation of the terms if you are simply
"upgrading" a machine - since that in effect is a "new" machine, and OEM
copies are supposed to die with the hardware they were shipped on. The
exception to this rule is if you are repairing a machine under warranty.
So explaining that you have just repaired a customers machine with a new
motherboard etc, will normally get them to reactivate.

With retail versions you normally just need to assure them that you only
have less than the licensed number of installed copies already, and they
will reactivate.

(Note with Office 2013 when it was first released they quietly dropped
the retail license terms - forcing OEM terms on all copies. However
after a bit of an outcry they backed away from this and the PKC versions
(i.e. medialess boxes just with a key card) can be reactivated under
retail style licensing now.

so you will have to re-authenticate your OS. So you will need the licence
key. I haven't personally re-authenticated a Windows system but I
understand that it can be done.

In the case of many machines you can simply use the number on the CoA
sticker. If you need to recover keys then there are various utils out
there like magical jelly bean and produ key that will recover the
original key from the installation.

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On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not always true (typically about 40% of the time with XP and less
with Win 7. Never tried it with Win 8 yet).

It depends on how much the hardware platform has changed and whether a
new HAL is required (say by changing architecture from AMD to Intel). If
you have the right media versions then you can usually do a "repair"
install, that preserves the installed applications and machine
configuration.



--
Cheers,

John.

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On 20/04/15 22:03, john james wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

A repair install works fine.

I consider that a reinstall, even if not full...

I cant believe how fast the latest linux install goes either compared
with et upgrade/reboot/upgrade cycle of Winders


Time for linux perhaps. Or you could defrag what's left of windows

I see two routes:

1/. New machine, new windows reinsmtall everything and copy old disk

2/. New disk more RAM install Linux and copy old data across and
install everything - up to to windows in a VM if you must




--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 20/04/15 22:03, john james wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

A repair install works fine.

I consider that a reinstall, even if not full...

It isn't, all it does is ensure that the drivers are appropriate.

I cant believe how fast the latest linux install goes either compared with
et upgrade/reboot/upgrade cycle of Winders


Time for linux perhaps. Or you could defrag what's left of windows

I see two routes:

1/. New machine, new windows reinsmtall everything and copy old disk

2/. New disk more RAM install Linux and copy old data across and
install everything - up to to windows in a VM if you must

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:10:42 +0100, Gary wrote:

Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Have you tried any of the usual things - cleaning up old install files
from Windows Update and the like?

Windows gradually clogs up and slows down without some housekeeping now
and then.

Have you looked at the Performance Monitor to confirm that it is the
processor which is being over used? It may be some other component.

*If you have a lot of spare CPU capacity then a faster processor may not
solve your problems.

*If you are running out of memory (and therefore swapping to disc) then
more memory may solve your problem.

*If your disc is being maxed out then (as already suggested) a faster HDD
or an SSD could solve your problem.

For specific advice it would help us if you told us what mother board and
processor you currently have, what memory (amount, type, speed), which HDD
and how much free space.


If you change mother board Microsoft will regard that as a new computer -
so you will have to re-authenticate your OS. So you will need the licence
key. I haven't personally re-authenticated a Windows system but I
understand that it can be done.

http://dazloader.com/

Works a treat.

In article ,
Gary wrote:
I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

I take it you've installed all the Windows updates? They seem to have just
that effect. Only real cure is a later version of Windows. And then it
starts all over again.

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*A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 21/04/2015 12:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
#
I cant believe how fast the latest linux install goes either compared
with et upgrade/reboot/upgrade cycle of Winders

It takes about 10 minutes to do win10 how long does linux take?

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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In article , Mr Pounder
wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Have you actually done any maintaining of things on the machine?
Ccleaner, a defrag, and a look to see what crap is running in the
background that need not be?

All reinstalling will do is put the same issue off till next time. i
remember speeding a machine up just after Christmas by the simple task
of uninstalling stealth software downloaded silently to run some girly
type xmas card animation software that ran every bloomin time and used
up 26 percent of processor while doing nothing at all. Who writes and
tests this crap?

"Gary" wrote in message
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Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Malwarebytes, AV, Spybot, Superantispyware, defrag, msconfig, (Run in W7)
defrag before you do something Very silly like trying to shove a new
motherboard in.

This is life under Windows is it? I'll give it a miss if it's all the
same to you.

It's life under Windows only if you're dumb enough to download ****.
I played with Linux for a week and then binned it, if it's all the same to
you.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Mr Pounder
wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article , Mr Pounder
wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Have you actually done any maintaining of things on the machine?
Ccleaner, a defrag, and a look to see what crap is running in the
background that need not be?

All reinstalling will do is put the same issue off till next time. i
remember speeding a machine up just after Christmas by the simple task
of uninstalling stealth software downloaded silently to run some girly
type xmas card animation software that ran every bloomin time and used
up 26 percent of processor while doing nothing at all. Who writes and
tests this crap?

"Gary" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Malwarebytes, AV, Spybot, Superantispyware, defrag, msconfig, (Run in
W7) defrag before you do something Very silly like trying to shove a
new motherboard in.

This is life under Windows is it? I'll give it a miss if it's all the
same to you.

It's life under Windows only if you're dumb enough to download ****.
I played with Linux for a week and then binned it, if it's all the same to
you.

Be my guest. I only run it in a VM for testing purposes.

Will you be my guest?

John Rumm scribbled


On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not always true (typically about 40% of the time with XP and less
with Win 7. Never tried it with Win 8 yet).

It depends on how much the hardware platform has changed and whether a
new HAL is required (say by changing architecture from AMD to Intel). If
you have the right media versions then you can usually do a "repair"
install, that preserves the installed applications and machine
configuration.


And he's installed a load of ****e, it'll remain there.

On Monday, 20 April 2015 15:51:42 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...

I believe that most Linux OSs are immune to fragmentation. I gather Microsoft is always in need of a defrag. I presume the OP has already tried physically cleaning the machine to stop over heating and thae various other tricks to speed upi things like gettng a second drive.

Filling a drive if it's your only drive is rather silly but the OP is a Microsfty!

On Monday, 20 April 2015 20:59:18 UTC+1, Jonno wrote:

http://malwaretips.com/threads/hard-...onal-4-2-4-40-
free-full-version.33251/

WFmoron wrote that page?

"Weatherlawyer" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 20 April 2015 15:51:42 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 15:42, RJH wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:45, Bod wrote:
On 20/04/2015 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?

Gary

Buy an SSD drive. Your computer will fly along in comparison to a
standard mechanical HDD.

Generally, +1.

Yes. Linux on SSD tales about 2.5 seconds to boot from selecting it at
GRUB level, to having a GUI login prompt..

more like 25 secs from SATA..spinning rust...

I believe that most Linux OSs are immune to fragmentation. I gather
Microsoft is always in need of a defrag.

You're wrong on that last. I don't bother to defrag and since the
main machine is the PVR now, that is potentially the worst situation
for fragmentation, very large files with very little free space with new
very large files written daily.

And fragmentation won't be the reason for the slowdown anyway.

I presume the OP has already tried physically cleaning the machine to stop
over heating

It's very unlikely to be that either.

and thae various other tricks to speed upi things like gettng a second
drive.

That makes no difference now either. It was only ever relevant when
there wasn't enough physical ram so the system was swapping all the
time with drives that didn't seek very fast with lousy thruput.

Filling a drive if it's your only drive is rather silly

Works fine.

but the OP is a Microsfty!

On 21/04/2015 21:46, Jonno wrote:
John Rumm scribbled


On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not always true (typically about 40% of the time with XP and less
with Win 7. Never tried it with Win 8 yet).

It depends on how much the hardware platform has changed and whether a
new HAL is required (say by changing architecture from AMD to Intel). If
you have the right media versions then you can usually do a "repair"
install, that preserves the installed applications and machine
configuration.


And he's installed a load of ****e, it'll remain there.

Since the OP claimed to have not installed anything new, I am not sure
why you make that claim in this case.

Obviously one needs to balance the relative benefits of a clean install
against a repair - there are pros and cons to both.

However it is very easy to under estimate the amount of time that can be
spent getting a clean install back into your preferred configuration.


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Cheers,

John.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 21/04/2015 21:46, Jonno wrote:
John Rumm scribbled


On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not always true (typically about 40% of the time with XP and less
with Win 7. Never tried it with Win 8 yet).

It depends on how much the hardware platform has changed and whether a
new HAL is required (say by changing architecture from AMD to Intel). If
you have the right media versions then you can usually do a "repair"
install, that preserves the installed applications and machine
configuration.


And he's installed a load of ****e, it'll remain there.

Since the OP claimed to have not installed anything new, I am not sure why
you make that claim in this case.

Obviously one needs to balance the relative benefits of a clean install
against a repair - there are pros and cons to both.

However it is very easy to under estimate the amount of time that can be
spent getting a clean install back into your preferred configuration.

And very easy to do a repair install, see if that fixes the
speed problem and do a clean reinstall if it doesn’t.

On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:37:04 UTC+1, john james wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
On 21/04/2015 21:46, Jonno wrote:
John Rumm scribbled


On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not always true (typically about 40% of the time with XP and less
with Win 7. Never tried it with Win 8 yet).

It depends on how much the hardware platform has changed and whether a
new HAL is required (say by changing architecture from AMD to Intel). If
you have the right media versions then you can usually do a "repair"
install, that preserves the installed applications and machine
configuration.


And he's installed a load of ****e, it'll remain there.

Since the OP claimed to have not installed anything new, I am not sure why
you make that claim in this case.

Obviously one needs to balance the relative benefits of a clean install
against a repair - there are pros and cons to both.

However it is very easy to under estimate the amount of time that can be
spent getting a clean install back into your preferred configuration.

And very easy to do a repair install, see if that fixes the
speed problem and do a clean reinstall if it doesn't.

Its been a while since I fixed a bunch of windows stuff, but fixing it was, I concluded, mostly a waste of time. Fresh installs became the standard routine.

The only time that went less well than hoped was with a machine that had a faulty video card. It was working acceptably, with some junk across the bottom of the screen, but win refused to reinstall because it was faulty.

Things may have changed since


NT

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On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 01:37:04 UTC+1, john james wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
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On 21/04/2015 21:46, Jonno wrote:
John Rumm scribbled


On 20/04/2015 15:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/04/15 14:10, Gary wrote:
Hi Guys

I am having the slow computer problems that creep up on us.
I have not installed anything new but the machine is getting slower
and
slower.

Is it possible to replace the motherboard and expect windows7 to
jump
into life with a new younger and faster hart or am I doomed to the
nightmare of having to do a new install?

Anyone on here tried it?


Windows wont work on a new MB without a reinstall anyway.

That's not always true (typically about 40% of the time with XP and
less
with Win 7. Never tried it with Win 8 yet).

It depends on how much the hardware platform has changed and whether
a
new HAL is required (say by changing architecture from AMD to Intel).
If
you have the right media versions then you can usually do a "repair"
install, that preserves the installed applications and machine
configuration.


And he's installed a load of ****e, it'll remain there.

Since the OP claimed to have not installed anything new, I am not sure
why
you make that claim in this case.

Obviously one needs to balance the relative benefits of a clean install
against a repair - there are pros and cons to both.

However it is very easy to under estimate the amount of time that can
be
spent getting a clean install back into your preferred configuration.

And very easy to do a repair install, see if that fixes the
speed problem and do a clean reinstall if it doesn't.

Its been a while since I fixed a bunch of windows stuff,

That's obvious.

but fixing it was, I concluded, mostly a waste of time.
Fresh installs became the standard routine.

What was being discussed was what do to after a motherboard
swap. A repair install works fine in that situation and is a lot less
work than a clean install, particularly if there are quite a few apps
installed and quite a bit of configuration done.

The only time that went less well than hoped was with a machine that
had a faulty video card. It was working acceptably, with some junk across
the bottom of the screen, but win refused to reinstall because it was
faulty.

Things may have changed since

They have. And the system being discussed doesn't have a fault.