They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro). Pity the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

--
Colin Bignell

Nightjar cpb@ wrote:
the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Bill

On 16/04/15 04:20, Bill Wright wrote:
Nightjar cpb@ wrote:
the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Bill

probably better than bloke from Eton setting the world to rights ...

or Trotskyite smashing everything in the sincere belief that things will
emerge much better if you do.


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 16/04/2015 04:20, Bill Wright wrote:
Nightjar cpb@ wrote:
the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Nothing, provided it stays in the pub.

The problem is that the bloke down the pub often does not understand the
ramifications of his proposals. As an example, the proposed cut to
overseas aid. There is no doubt that the system is far from perfect, but
it is changing. We will give no new aid to India once existing
commitments are complete and there are improved controls on how it is
given and distributed. However, overseas aid has been demonstrated to be
very effective at reducing dissatisfaction with the West that encourages
terrorism. The reduction in terrorism is a far from obvious effect of
overseas aid that the bloke down the pub will not have taken into
account. He probably also won't realise that quite a lot of the aid is
given in a form that requires it to be spent with British companies,
which means we get much of it back in trade.

--
Colin Bignell

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:38:44 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

the rest of their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world
to rights stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Nothing, provided it stays in the pub.

*ding*

The problem is that the bloke down the pub often does not understand the
ramifications of his proposals. As an example, the proposed cut to
overseas aid. There is no doubt that the system is far from perfect, but
it is changing. We will give no new aid to India once existing
commitments are complete

Except, of course, some think that we should actually abandon the
contracts and commitments part way through. That's really going to help
the UK's reputation as a trustworthy partner, globally...

He probably also won't realise that quite a lot of the aid is given in
a form that requires it to be spent with British companies, which means
we get much of it back in trade.

He also ignores the small detail that the 0.7% GDP figure isn't a random
plucked-from-arse number, but a UN Millenium Development Goal that EVERY
SINGLE rich developed nation signed up to. So, again, by abandoning it,
the UK would be devaluing any future assurances and commitments we made.

On 16/04/15 09:50, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:38:44 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

the rest of their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world
to rights stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Nothing, provided it stays in the pub.

*ding*

The problem is that the bloke down the pub often does not understand the
ramifications of his proposals. As an example, the proposed cut to
overseas aid. There is no doubt that the system is far from perfect, but
it is changing. We will give no new aid to India once existing
commitments are complete

Except, of course, some think that we should actually abandon the
contracts and commitments part way through. That's really going to help
the UK's reputation as a trustworthy partner, globally...

He probably also won't realise that quite a lot of the aid is given in
a form that requires it to be spent with British companies, which means
we get much of it back in trade.

He also ignores the small detail that the 0.7% GDP figure isn't a random
plucked-from-arse number, but a UN Millenium Development Goal that EVERY
SINGLE rich developed nation signed up to. So, again, by abandoning it,
the UK would be devaluing any future assurances and commitments we made.


Well there a re a lot of things everyone signed up for like renewable
energy and climate change that are total bunk.

Sacred cows should be put on trial occasionally


--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:38:44 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

the rest of their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the
world to rights stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Nothing, provided it stays in the pub.

*ding*

The problem is that the bloke down the pub often does not understand
the ramifications of his proposals. As an example, the proposed cut
to overseas aid. There is no doubt that the system is far from
perfect, but it is changing. We will give no new aid to India once
existing commitments are complete

Except, of course, some think that we should actually abandon the
contracts and commitments part way through. That's really going to
help the UK's reputation as a trustworthy partner, globally...

He probably also won't realise that quite a lot of the aid is given
in a form that requires it to be spent with British companies, which
means we get much of it back in trade.

He also ignores the small detail that the 0.7% GDP figure isn't a
random plucked-from-arse number, but a UN Millenium Development Goal
that EVERY SINGLE rich developed nation signed up to. So, again, by
abandoning it, the UK would be devaluing any future assurances and
commitments we made.

So you - along with our elected representatives - think the following
States which do not give 0.7% or more are not acting in the best
interests of their citizens? As evidenced by what - the way the UK is
such a successful economy comnapored with this list? Or commands so much
support and cooperatrion in - say - deporting criminals and avoiding
illeagl immigration?

Australia 0.33%
Austria 0.27%
Belgium 0.45%
Canada 0.27%
Finland 0.54%
France 0.41%
Germany 0.38%
Ireland 0.46%
Italy 0.17%
Japan 0.23%
Netherlands 0.67%
New Zealand 0.26%
Spain 0.17%
Switzerland 0.47%
United States 0.18%

[source: OECD, ODA/GNI for 2013]


--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:13:12 +0100, Robin wrote:

He also ignores the small detail that the 0.7% GDP figure isn't a
random plucked-from-arse number, but a UN Millenium Development Goal
that EVERY SINGLE rich developed nation signed up to. So, again, by
abandoning it, the UK would be devaluing any future assurances and
commitments we made.

So you - along with our elected representatives - think the following
States which do not give 0.7% or more are not acting in the best
interests of their citizens?

Their governments clearly think they are, of course.

Whether the international community thinks reneging on an international
promise is equally "in the interests" is another question.

BTW, I was wrong. The 0.7% figure wasn't originally a Millenium goal - it
goes back to 1970.
http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/press/07.htm

In all that time, only six countries have ever lived up to that
agreement, and the average has never topped 0.4%. Shameful, and I'm proud
to live in one of the handful of countries that's actually trying.

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:38:44 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

the rest of their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world
to rights stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Nothing, provided it stays in the pub.

*ding*

The problem is that the bloke down the pub often does not understand the
ramifications of his proposals. As an example, the proposed cut to
overseas aid. There is no doubt that the system is far from perfect, but
it is changing. We will give no new aid to India once existing
commitments are complete

Except, of course, some think that we should actually abandon the
contracts and commitments part way through. That's really going to help
the UK's reputation as a trustworthy partner, globally...

He probably also won't realise that quite a lot of the aid is given in
a form that requires it to be spent with British companies, which means
we get much of it back in trade.

He also ignores the small detail that the 0.7% GDP figure isn't a random
plucked-from-arse number, but a UN Millenium Development Goal that EVERY
SINGLE rich developed nation signed up to. So, again, by abandoning it,
the UK would be devaluing any future assurances and commitments we made.

Drivel as usual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid#Top...ies_.282013.29

BTW, Don't see any muslim countries there.
Further proof they are scum.

On 16/04/2015 10:14, harryagain wrote:
Drivel as usual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid#Top...ies_.282013.29

BTW, Don't see any muslim countries there.
Further proof they are scum.

You really must follow your links.

The most generous per head is the UAE, at 1.25%...

Andy

"harryagain" wrote in message
...

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:38:44 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

the rest of their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world
to rights stuff though.

And what's wrong with that?

Nothing, provided it stays in the pub.

*ding*

The problem is that the bloke down the pub often does not understand the
ramifications of his proposals. As an example, the proposed cut to
overseas aid. There is no doubt that the system is far from perfect, but
it is changing. We will give no new aid to India once existing
commitments are complete

Except, of course, some think that we should actually abandon the
contracts and commitments part way through. That's really going to help
the UK's reputation as a trustworthy partner, globally...

He probably also won't realise that quite a lot of the aid is given in
a form that requires it to be spent with British companies, which means
we get much of it back in trade.

He also ignores the small detail that the 0.7% GDP figure isn't a random
plucked-from-arse number, but a UN Millenium Development Goal that EVERY
SINGLE rich developed nation signed up to. So, again, by abandoning it,
the UK would be devaluing any future assurances and commitments we made.

Drivel as usual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid#Top...ies_.282013.29

BTW, Don't see any muslim countries there.

Only because that is very biased against the sort of aid
that moslem countrys do with other moslem countrys.

Further proof they are scum.

Further proof that you are a mindless bigot.

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 04:20:46 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

And what's wrong with that?

Hardly the way to run a country!


Charlie.



--
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On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro). Pity the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

They also have some excellent policies for cycling and the smoking ban.

--
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On 16/04/2015 08:26, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro). Pity the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

They also have some excellent policies for cycling and the smoking ban.

I didn't see anything about cycling in their manifesto.

--
Colin Bignell

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:26:27 +0100, The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro). Pity the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

They also have some excellent policies for cycling and the smoking ban.

Ashtrays to be fitted to all cycles, fluorescent lycra must be worn whilst
inhaling, all smoking banned in vehicles and public places, selling items on
ebay that have been in a tobacco infested atmosphere to be banned. Am I close?

--

On 16/04/2015 22:28, The Other Mike wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:26:27 +0100, The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro). Pity the rest of
their manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights
stuff though.

They also have some excellent policies for cycling and the smoking ban.

Ashtrays to be fitted to all cycles, fluorescent lycra must be worn whilst
inhaling, all smoking banned in vehicles and public places, selling items on
ebay that have been in a tobacco infested atmosphere to be banned. Am I close?

Strangely, no.



--
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On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro).

The collapse of the Banqiao hydro-electric dam in 1975 killed 26,000
people (and another 145,000 subsequently) and made 11 million homeless.
Maybe they should be against hydro too.

Another Dave
--
Change nospam to gmx

On 16/04/2015 09:07, Another Dave wrote:
On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro).

The collapse of the Banqiao hydro-electric dam in 1975 killed 26,000
people (and another 145,000 subsequently) and made 11 million homeless.
Maybe they should be against hydro too.

Earth dams are always a bit suspect but, even without the construction
errors, it still might not have survived the once in two thousand year
storm that hit.

--
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"Another Dave" wrote in message
...
On 16/04/2015 00:47, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like
them rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro).

The collapse of the Banqiao hydro-electric dam in 1975 killed 26,000
people (and another 145,000 subsequently) and made 11 million homeless.
Maybe they should be against hydro too.

Nope, because that is so rare that it doesnt matter
and easy to avoid that happening again anyway.

I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other image
is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who
don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer
mps.
Brian

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"Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message
...

They actually have a sensible energy policy. Not sure Harry will like them
rejecting renewable energy (other than hydro). Pity the rest of their
manifesto is a bloke down the pub setting the world to rights stuff
though.

--
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On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:39:23 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image is there.

Well, yes, but...

A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who don't
like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer mps.

Indeed. "Fruitcakes and closet racists" was far, far closer to the mark
than 'kippers like to admit.

On 16/04/15 09:51, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:39:23 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image is there.

Well, yes, but...

A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who don't
like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer mps.

Indeed. "Fruitcakes and closet racists" was far, far closer to the mark
than 'kippers like to admit.


No. That is more accurate when used to describe the SNP actually.

It still amazes me that people like you can still parrot that bigotry,
and haven't bothered to open your eyes to what UKIP really is all about.

Its moved on from 'we are against Europe' to 'we are against bad
government and big government and very expensive government that doesn't
work, and which we cannot control democratically'.

That the single greatest example of that is the EU, is now just
coincidental.





--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 16/04/2015 10:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 09:51, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:39:23 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image is there.

Well, yes, but...

A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who don't
like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer mps.

Indeed. "Fruitcakes and closet racists" was far, far closer to the mark
than 'kippers like to admit.


No. That is more accurate when used to describe the SNP actually.

It still amazes me that people like you can still parrot that bigotry,
and haven't bothered to open your eyes to what UKIP really is all about.

The deliberate smear campaign by the media and the main parties (who
appear to be sh*t scared that UKIP will take their votes) obviously has
some effect.

Its moved on from 'we are against Europe' to 'we are against bad
government and big government and very expensive government that doesn't
work, and which we cannot control democratically'.

That the single greatest example of that is the EU, is now just
coincidental.







--
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On 16/04/2015 18:07, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 16/04/2015 10:14, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
....
The deliberate smear campaign by the media and the main parties (who
appear to be sh*t scared that UKIP will take their votes) obviously has
some effect...

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party has stated that it expects to
lose votes to UKIP.


--
Colin Bignell

Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:39:23 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image is there.

Well, yes, but...

A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who don't
like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer mps.

Indeed. "Fruitcakes and closet racists" was far, far closer to the mark
than 'kippers like to admit.

So, you're describing the conservative and labour parties as well?

On 16/04/15 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other image
is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who
don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer
mps.
Brian

Oh fdear Brian, In this rare case you are letting your bigotry and
ignorance shine.

Stewart Agnew: a farmer who knows more about farming and the EU
regulations thereof than any other british politician.

Roger Helmer, asabove but substitute energy.

Douglas Carswell, one of the most intelligent political systems analysts
I have ever met. The power behind 'small government'

Patrick O Flynn. Cambridge degree in economics and the man behind the
economics policies.

Along with David Platt.

And as for charisma and leadership Suzanne Evans is probably the next
UKIP leader.

And there is of course Diane..

No, there are more believable intelligent and experienced people in UKIP
than any other party.




--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 16/04/2015 10:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image
is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who
don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer
mps.
Brian

Oh fdear Brian, In this rare case you are letting your bigotry and
ignorance shine.

Stewart Agnew: a farmer who knows more about farming and the EU
regulations thereof than any other british politician.

Roger Helmer, asabove but substitute energy.

Douglas Carswell, one of the most intelligent political systems analysts
I have ever met. The power behind 'small government'

Patrick O Flynn. Cambridge degree in economics and the man behind the
economics policies.

Along with David Platt.

And as for charisma and leadership Suzanne Evans is probably the next
UKIP leader.

People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.


And there is of course Diane..

Who?



--
Colin Bignell

Roger Helmer, asabove but substitute energy.

Ah, yes. Roger Helmer...
Highpoints of his career...
Date rape doesn't exist, it's no more than she should have expected.
Homophobia doesn't exist, it's just propaganda from the militant gay
rights lobby.
The NHS is a 60-year mistake.

Even Farage says he only holds some of his views because he's too old to
know better...

Along with David Platt.

And as for charisma and leadership Suzanne Evans is probably the next
UKIP leader.

Who?

People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.

Except for the odd "controversial" loon being kicked out, of course.

On 16/04/15 11:10, Adrian wrote:
Roger Helmer, asabove but substitute energy.

Ah, yes. Roger Helmer...
Highpoints of his career...
Date rape doesn't exist, it's no more than she should have expected.
Homophobia doesn't exist, it's just propaganda from the militant gay
rights lobby.
The NHS is a 60-year mistake.

Even Farage says he only holds some of his views because he's too old to
know better...

Along with David Platt.

And as for charisma and leadership Suzanne Evans is probably the next
UKIP leader.

Who?

People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.

Except for the odd "controversial" loon being kicked out, of course.

These people are all well known to anyone who takes the trouble to
investigate what UKIP *really* is, rather than allowing themselves to be
spoonfed with what the guardian, torygraph and BBC want you to believe
they are.

To say that 'no one knows who comprises UKIP' is not a criticism of
UKIP, its a criticism of the media.




--
Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 16/04/2015 11:10, Adrian wrote:
Except for the odd "controversial" loon being kicked out, of course.

Nige did make a point on the radio the other day that no-one picked up
on for some odd reason. A UKIP councillor was saying all sorts of
things, and it was all over the papers. He's been saying them for years
- but it wasn't news until he left the Tories for UKIP.

Andy

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:08:44 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

The NHS is a 60-year mistake.

Well, who's to say that it isn't.

Considering the US was being held up as the model to aspire to...

On 16/04/15 12:08, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Adrian
wrote:

The NHS is a 60-year mistake.

Well, who's to say that it isn't. See, we're not allowed to discuss it,
propose different models, question its efficiency - indeed, say
anything at all. That would be to go against an article of faith. Say a
word, and "heresy" is the cry.

That we've had Mid-Staffs, that whistle blowers are *still* done down
by the health establishment, appears to be mostly overlooked.


The NHS is an essential part of Britain IME and IMO.

However, it is appallingly inefficient.

There needs to be:

1) A walk in service direct to each department to cut out the GP when
you known damn well you have an ear problem (eg). This is how it's done
in China.

2) When you go in, they need to stop this "5 people in order of
seniority ask you the same questions and fill out 5 difference forms".
Complete waste of time.

3) They need to get certain thinks back under hospital staff, eg
cleaning for one, directly answerable to the ward sister.

On 16/04/2015 12:08, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Adrian
wrote:

The NHS is a 60-year mistake.

Well, who's to say that it isn't....

It really isn't. It is much older than that. The NHS was an almost
direct copy of the Great Western Railway staff welfare scheme.


--
Colin Bignell

On 16/04/15 10:34, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 16/04/2015 10:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image
is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists who
don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with fewer
mps.
Brian

Oh fdear Brian, In this rare case you are letting your bigotry and
ignorance shine.

Stewart Agnew: a farmer who knows more about farming and the EU
regulations thereof than any other british politician.

Roger Helmer, asabove but substitute energy.

Douglas Carswell, one of the most intelligent political systems analysts
I have ever met. The power behind 'small government'

Patrick O Flynn. Cambridge degree in economics and the man behind the
economics policies.

Along with David Platt.

And as for charisma and leadership Suzanne Evans is probably the next
UKIP leader.

People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.

Which is of course because the main stream media absolutely don't give
air time to UKIP.


And there is of course Diane..

Who?





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Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the
rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

On 16/04/2015 12:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 10:34, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
....
People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.

Which is of course because the main stream media absolutely don't give
air time to UKIP.

They do, but usually it is not the sort of publicity that UKIP wants.


--
Colin Bignell

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.

Which is of course because the main stream media absolutely don't give
air time to UKIP.

Dunno which mainstream media you read or view, etc.

Nige and his bunch of inadequates get far more air time than any other
party with 2 MPs.

--
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On 16/04/2015 12:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 10:34, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 16/04/2015 10:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image
is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline racists
who
don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing liberal with
fewer
mps.
Brian

Oh fdear Brian, In this rare case you are letting your bigotry and
ignorance shine.

Stewart Agnew: a farmer who knows more about farming and the EU
regulations thereof than any other british politician.

Roger Helmer, asabove but substitute energy.

Douglas Carswell, one of the most intelligent political systems analysts
I have ever met. The power behind 'small government'

Patrick O Flynn. Cambridge degree in economics and the man behind the
economics policies.

Along with David Platt.

And as for charisma and leadership Suzanne Evans is probably the next
UKIP leader.

People I had never heard of until they popped up in the Manifesto. as
Brian says, Nigel is about the only well known member of UKIP.

Which is of course because the main stream media absolutely don't give
air time to UKIP.

Only when they wish to attack them.


And there is of course Diane..

Who?

And Mark Reckless.



--
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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline
racists who don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing
liberal with fewer mps.
Brian

Oh fdear Brian, In this rare case you are letting your bigotry and
ignorance shine.

Stewart Agnew: a farmer who knows more about farming and the EU
regulations thereof than any other british politician.

In which case he should know that most of the petty rules are created by
DEFRA and not the EU.

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On 17/04/15 11:06, charles wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/15 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
I do have issues with UKIP, because apart from Nige, there is no other
image is there. A bunch of ex other party memebers and borderline
racists who don't like the main parties. Its kind orf right wing
liberal with fewer mps.
Brian

Oh fdear Brian, In this rare case you are letting your bigotry and
ignorance shine.

Stewart Agnew: a farmer who knows more about farming and the EU
regulations thereof than any other british politician.

In which case he should know that most of the petty rules are created by
DEFRA and not the EU.

We can vote a new DEFRA in any election...


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rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Brian Gaff wrote:

apart from Nige, there is no other image is there.

Stewart Agnew, Roger Helmer, Douglas Carswell, Patrick O Flynn,
David Platt, Suzanne Evan, Diane.

Diane who?

there are more believable intelligent and experienced people in UKIP
than any other party.

They're doing a pretty **** job of getting their names and faces known
then, I've heard of Roger Helmer because he's one of this region's MEPs
and Douglas Carswell due to the $SOMEWHERE by-election, that's it.