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A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election
and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" -- Adam |
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On 30/03/15 21:41, ARW wrote:
A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" Best thing I've seen so far is this: http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20...vote-ukip1.jpg -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 30/03/2015 21:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/03/15 21:41, ARW wrote: A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" Best thing I've seen so far is this: http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20...vote-ukip1.jpg It is certainly a humorous suggestion. -- Colin Bignell |
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ARW wrote:
A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" My Labour candidate has circumvented "your notice" a couple of days ago Adam by sending his leaflet through the postal system so that Royal Mail has to deliver it - irrespective of what the bloody great A4 notice selotaped to my front door says about cold callers etc. Still, the paper is recyclable and any other poloitical party doesn't stand a dog's chance in hell of overturning Labour's 49% of the vote at the last election (with the Torys being second on 14%). As for me, at General elections, Labour gets my vote. At local elections, it's generally the first non far-right independant who can convince me of his or her enthusiasm at *trying* to get things done for their constituents - as Labour generally 'walks' into 'power' anyway. Cash |
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 00:27:37 +0100, Cash wrote:
ARW wrote: A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" My Labour candidate has circumvented "your notice" a couple of days ago Adam by sending his leaflet through the postal system so that Royal Mail has to deliver it - irrespective of what the bloody great A4 notice selotaped to my front door says about cold callers etc. http://goo.gl/9OOhhL is your friend. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:03:13 -0700, JimK wrote:
/ http://goo.gl/9OOhhL is your friend. /q In a non immediately obvious way? Jim K Because it'll stop Royal Mail delivering those election flyers. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £30a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 31/03/2015 00:41, Bob Eager wrote:
http://goo.gl/9OOhhL is your friend. Quote from the web site " Election material is not delivered by the Door to Door service and is therefore not affected by this opt out." -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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You may get into trouble for the language used in it, if its visible from
the footway. I know in some cases there are by-laws against offensive signage in a public place. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "ARW" wrote in message ... A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" -- Adam |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
"Opting out from Royal Mail Door to Door stops all unaddressed items from being delivered by us (although we do work with Government to get a message to every UK address in exceptional circumstances). Election material is not delivered by the Door to Door service and is therefore not affected by this opt out." Their basic method of implementing opt-out is fundamentally flawed, since it depends upon any unfamiliar staff allocated to the route remembering my status at the time they reach my doorstep. It could easily be prevented if they would allow their staff to respect notices affixed to the letterbox. They could even issue stickers themselves, once they have your confirmed instructions. They won't do this, because it would reduce revenue. Oddly, the mailing that was supposed to inform everybody about the planned (and then quickly postponed) NHS database was wrongly deemed by Royal Mail to be OK for opt out. - we never saw it. Don't forget, you need to re-register every 2 years, they won't remind you. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On 31 Mar 2015 00:29:23 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
/ http://goo.gl/9OOhhL is your friend. /q In a non immediately obvious way? Because it'll stop Royal Mail delivering those election flyers. Will it? "The opt out service only relates to unaddressed mail." "Royal Mail is still legally obliged to deliver all addressed mail, which includes mail that is addressed "To the Occupier" (or with any other generic recipient information), as well as mail that is personally addressed to you by name." and: "Opting out from Royal Mail Door to Door stops all unaddressed items from being delivered by us (although we do work with Government to get a message to every UK address in exceptional circumstances). Election material is not delivered by the Door to Door service and is therefore not affected by this opt out." I get the impression that the "Door to Door service" is something seperate from the Royal Mail letter/small packet service and seperate from the delivery of other carriers (Mailsort, UKMail, PostageSmart, etc) post even if it's all physically delivered at the same time by the same postie. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 30/03/2015 21:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 30/03/15 21:41, ARW wrote: A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" Best thing I've seen so far is this: http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20...vote-ukip1.jpg But its a lie. Farage is no more a straight talker than the others. There isn't a day where he doesn't make some outrageous comment to grab the headlines only to be followed by a "well I didn't mean it" toning down later. Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? |
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On 31/03/15 11:10, Dennis@home wrote:
On 30/03/2015 21:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 30/03/15 21:41, ARW wrote: A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" Best thing I've seen so far is this: http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20...vote-ukip1.jpg But its a lie. Farage is no more a straight talker than the others. There isn't a day where he doesn't make some outrageous comment to grab the headlines only to be followed by a "well I didn't mean it" toning down later. That is what straight talking is. Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Dunno. But millions vote for Labour, the Liberals the SNP and the Tory party. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 11:12:06 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote:
On 30/03/2015 21:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 30/03/15 21:41, ARW wrote: A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" Best thing I've seen so far is this: http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20...vote-ukip1.jpg But its a lie. Farage is no more a straight talker than the others. There isn't a day where he doesn't make some outrageous comment to grab the headlines only to be followed by a "well I didn't mean it" toning down later. Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well if you're going to vote for a lair why not vote for one that is honest about it ;-) Vote U.**** |
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In message , Chris J Dixon
writes Their basic method of implementing opt-out is fundamentally flawed, since it depends upon any unfamiliar staff allocated to the route remembering my status at the time they reach my doorstep. That is a failure at your local delivery office, not a 'system failure'. Anything that affects deliveries such as change of name or address, opt outs etc. should be clearly marked in the 'slot' for your mail at the delivery office, the whole point being that anyone on that duty will know, not just the regular postie. Shout at the local office manager. -- Graeme |
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In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes I get the impression that the "Door to Door service" is something seperate from the Royal Mail letter/small packet service and seperate from the delivery of other carriers (Mailsort, UKMail, PostageSmart, etc) post even if it's all physically delivered at the same time by the same postie. Correct. Door to Door material is usually received at the local delivery office at least a week before delivery. Each batch is marked for delivery between two dates, and the postie chooses when to add it to his frame for delivery. Everything else is (or should be) delivered the day it is received at the delivery office. -- Graeme |
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News wrote:
In message , Chris J Dixon writes Their basic method of implementing opt-out is fundamentally flawed, since it depends upon any unfamiliar staff allocated to the route remembering my status at the time they reach my doorstep. That is a failure at your local delivery office, not a 'system failure'. Anything that affects deliveries such as change of name or address, opt outs etc. should be clearly marked in the 'slot' for your mail at the delivery office, the whole point being that anyone on that duty will know, not just the regular postie. Shout at the local office manager. I complain through channels from time to time. I have a chat with new folk on the round if I can catch them. The most recent time he told me that the markings on the frame are not used any more, but there is a list somewhere. My point is that, unless you can explain an aspect that I am overlooking, when they get to my door, it is down to their memory to recall that I am officially opted out. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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ARW wrote:
A simple note on the front door that says "I know that there is an election and I could not give a ****. So please do not post any of your "Vote for me" ****e through my letter box or knock on my door to ask how I will be voting. Thanks" Leafletters are delivring so many leaflets that by the time any wording on a door/letterbox has distracted their attention from pushing the leaflet through and setting off for the next door, the leaflet will already be through the letterbox and they'll be half way back down the path to the next house. jgh |
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In message , Chris J Dixon
writes My point is that, unless you can explain an aspect that I am overlooking, when they get to my door, it is down to their memory to recall that I am officially opted out. Yes, you are correct. Problem is, they should not be getting to your door, or even to the postie or his bag, van, whatever. The theory is the postie delivers everything he is given. My office was small rural, and I can see that in a much larger office, there may be breakdowns in communication, which does not help you. -- Graeme |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
... You may get into trouble for the language used in it, English? -- Adam |
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/ You may get into trouble for the language used in it,
English? /q Eh? Just English? Wtf? You #####ist! Jim K |
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On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote:
Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. Andy |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. You mean all parties or all politicians? And if you mean the latter, do I therefore take it that you've met them all, and can prove that each one lied to you? No, I haven't met all of them, but the ones I have met all lie. |
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On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. Andy They don't all lie, they just tell you what the figures mean in a different way. UKIP lies because it claims to do straight talking which it doesn't. |
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On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:19:30 UTC+1, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Capitol wrote: Tim Streater wrote: In article , Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. You mean all parties or all politicians? And if you mean the latter, do I therefore take it that you've met them all, and can prove that each one lied to you? No, I haven't met all of them, but the ones I have met all lie. What, all the time? Isn;t that rather a stupid question, it's like asking anyone is they **** and **** all the time. Most do it when they want to or have to. I think you can't have met many. Or you're talking cock (which would be unusual for you, I have to say). Do you really have to meet them. Or do you believe that people you've never met never lie. I've never met Jimmy saville, should I trust those that tell me he lied about sexually abusing kids because I've never actualy met him. |
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On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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![]() "John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! That is clearly UKIP because there isn't even the remotest possibility they will ever be the government. The worst a vote for them might produce is a referendum on whether Britain should remain in the EU. |
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![]() "john james" wrote in message ... "John Rumm" wrote in message o.uk... On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! That is clearly UKIP because there isn't even the remotest possibility they will ever be the government. The worst a vote for them might produce is a referendum on whether Britain should remain in the EU. And it doesnt matter if they are lying through their teeth either. |
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On 02/04/2015 05:21, john james wrote:
That is clearly UKIP because there isn't even the remotest possibility they will ever be the government. I haven't really decided who to vote for. We're in a pretty safe seat, so we don't get a vote that matters much - and we might get an interesting independent. I like to encourage the nutters, it helps to deflate the ones who think they know better than anyone else how to run the country. Andy |
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John Rumm writes:
On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. -- Windmill, Use t m i l l J.R.R. Tolkien:- @ S c o t s h o m e . c o m All that is gold does not glister / Not all who wander are lost |
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On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote:
John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. |
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![]() "Dennis@home" wrote in message web.com... On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote: John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths Doctors don’t have oaths. and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. |
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Dennis@home wrote:
On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote: John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. Well, in the Torygraph today, he said that he meant every word and I support him. I presume you are happy to put even more cost onto UK taxpayers? AIUI, the US has a ban on admitting HIV immigrants. Am I wrong? |
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![]() "Capitol" wrote in message o.uk... Dennis@home wrote: On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote: John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. Well, in the Torygraph today, he said that he meant every word and I support him. No surprises there. I presume you are happy to put even more cost onto UK taxpayers? But they are paying their taxes too. AIUI, the US has a ban on admitting HIV immigrants. Am I wrong? Yes you are wrong. http://www.hivlawandpolicy.org/issues/immigration |
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"Dennis@home" writes On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote: John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. Perhaps the NHS should charge it to the foreign aid budget. -- bert |
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On 04/04/2015 23:49, bert wrote:
In message . com, "Dennis@home" writes On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote: John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. Perhaps the NHS should charge it to the foreign aid budget. Its the same tax anyway. I would think Farage has alienated all the NHS staff by now. I can't imagine many of them ignoring someone suffering just because they can't prove entitlement. What's he going to do to the staff when they do treat someone, imprison them, fine them, sack them or has he got a better way to ruin the NHS? Next it will be other undesirables like drug addicts, alcoholics, disabled, etc. I wonder if ukip supporters wear brown shirts? |
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On 05/04/15 10:17, Dennis@home wrote:
On 04/04/2015 23:49, bert wrote: In message . com, "Dennis@home" writes On 03/04/2015 00:18, Windmill wrote: John Rumm writes: On 31/03/2015 21:50, Vir Campestris wrote: On 31/03/2015 11:10, Dennis@home wrote: Why would anyone that isn't an idiot vote for some party that lies in its publicity? Well, who should we vote for? They _all_ lie. The one you think will cause least harm! The only party I can think of which might fit that criterion is the Monster Raving Loony Party - and I doubt if they have a candidate in Edinburgh. Maybe Farage should join? I see he got put down with his idea that doctors should break their oaths and not treat immigrants. It was quite funny as the put down was the only comment that got applause from the audience. It makes you think the SNP might be good afterall. Of course now he has the party faithful thinking that he is a straight talker the spin has started with them saying he didn't mean what he said. Anyone that actually thinks, thinks he is an idiot. Perhaps the NHS should charge it to the foreign aid budget. Its the same tax anyway. I would think Farage has alienated all the NHS staff by now. I can't imagine many of them ignoring someone suffering just because they can't prove entitlement. What's he going to do to the staff when they do treat someone, imprison them, fine them, sack them or has he got a better way to ruin the NHS? You really haven't been listening: the idea is not to let people arrive in the country who are chronically ill, in the first place. There are literally billions of people who need medical treatment and deserve better lives. At some point it is not possible to help them all. That is the sad and hard fact of real life. The Left refuses to face up to that. Next it will be other undesirables like drug addicts, alcoholics, disabled, etc. I wonder if ukip supporters wear brown shirts? What a disgusting fascist thing to say. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 05/04/15 14:40, Huge wrote:
I only ever met one socialist I admired; someone I worked with a long time ago who declined the company BUPA because he disapproved of private health I have no problem with private health insurance - that slot saved on the NHS is a slot that's available for someone else (assuming that the private guy goes to a private hospital). |
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In article , Tim Streater
writes In article , Huge wrote: On 2015-04-05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 05/04/15 10:17, Dennis@home wrote: [55 lines snipped] I wonder if ukip supporters wear brown shirts? What a disgusting fascist thing to say. It's a sad reflection of how left-wing this country has become that a centre-right party can be described as fascist. Fascists see violence as a legitimate tactic. Now, look and see who has been applying such a tactic. Animal "rights" fascists, the "anti-fascist" fascists who have had a go at Farage a couple of times, and so on. And guess what. They're all on the left. Nationalists + Socialists = ?? -- hugh |
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