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http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy
Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. |
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On 22/02/2015 14:50, harryagain wrote:
http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. Except when the wind doesn't blow. |
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harryagain wrote
http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. Bet it doesn’t, even in the best times. |
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harryagain wrote: http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. does that mean they only have energy for 50% time? -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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"charles" wrote in message ... In article , harryagain wrote: http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. does that mean they only have energy for 50% time? Were you never taught to read? |
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But what if there is no wind?
I don't believe it, personally. Sounds like more hype to me. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "harryagain" wrote in message ... http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. |
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On 23/02/2015 08:16, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:49:27 -0000, "Brian Gaff" wrote: But what if there is no wind? I don't believe it, personally. Sounds like more hype to me. Brian They're not saying that Scotland isn't going to have any other form of electricity generation, only that they aim to produce as much electricity from wind as the region uses. Any surplus, from for example nuclear or coal, would be exported, presumably to the rest of the UK. When the wind doesn't blow in Scotland, they will presumably fall back on their other generators and import any shortfall. That assumes there's spare electricity available to be imported, and we haven't all gone down the same short-sighted green path to hell and there's no surplus electricity available. At that point, the green nirvana is exposed for the fraud that it is. All that would be exposed is that privatised industry can't plan ahead and that would give people like dave ammunition to renationalise the network and put it back into the hands of those responsible for the cockup. It will take a few blackouts and the consequential deaths before people like harry realise how stupid they are. |
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"Dennis@home" wrote in message b.com... On 23/02/2015 08:16, Chris Hogg wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:49:27 -0000, "Brian Gaff" wrote: But what if there is no wind? I don't believe it, personally. Sounds like more hype to me. Brian They're not saying that Scotland isn't going to have any other form of electricity generation, only that they aim to produce as much electricity from wind as the region uses. Any surplus, from for example nuclear or coal, would be exported, presumably to the rest of the UK. When the wind doesn't blow in Scotland, they will presumably fall back on their other generators and import any shortfall. That assumes there's spare electricity available to be imported, and we haven't all gone down the same short-sighted green path to hell and there's no surplus electricity available. At that point, the green nirvana is exposed for the fraud that it is. All that would be exposed is that privatised industry can't plan ahead and that would give people like dave ammunition to renationalise the network and put it back into the hands of those responsible for the cockup. It will take a few blackouts and the consequential deaths before people like harry realise how stupid they are. Harry wouldn’t work that out even if half the population of that soggy little island got killed by it. |
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On 23/02/2015 09:07, Rod Speed wrote:
Harry wouldn’t work that out even if half the population of that soggy little island got killed by it. But don't we all agree that population reduction is the safest way to achieve CO2 reduction. |
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Nick wrote: On 23/02/2015 09:07, Rod Speed wrote: Harry wouldn’t work that out even if half the population of that soggy little island got killed by it. But don't we all agree that population reduction is the safest way to achieve CO2 reduction. That seems to be the Greens policy since they apparently want to stop the import of food. -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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Nick wrote
Rod Speed wrote Harry wouldn’t work that out even if half the population of that soggy little island got killed by it. But don't we all agree that population reduction is the safest way to achieve CO2 reduction. Nope, the safest way to do that is using candu reactors. Or thorium reactors if you want to eliminate any risk of the owners ever being able to make nuclear weapons. |
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On 23/02/2015 14:28, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:17:32 +0000, Nick wrote: On 23/02/2015 09:07, Rod Speed wrote: Harry wouldnt work that out even if half the population of that soggy little island got killed by it. But don't we all agree that population reduction is the safest way to achieve CO2 reduction. And also anathema to capitalists, who need "expansion" to carry on making money. Notice when the UK population started naturally declining, how quickly the bosses shipped in more workers to ensure wages stayed low. Its more a case of there are some jobs that have to be done and there isn't anyone that wants to do them. Which would you do.. live on benefits + foreigners or go to work in a dirty job for minimum wage? |
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Chris Hogg wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:50:41 -0000, "harryagain" wrote: http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistic.../TrenRenEnergy Scotland to achieve 50% of it's electricity from renewable sources by 2020. You've got that wrong Harry. It's better than you said. It says 'The Scottish Government has set a National Indicator for the amount of electricity generated annually through renewable sources as a percentage of gross annual consumption to increase to 100% by 2020. The interim target of 31% by 2011 has now been met and a new interim target of 50% by 2015 has been set'. So 100% by 2020, not 50%. Judging by the graph, I wouldn't be surprised to see it already having reached 50% by the end of last year. But before you wet yourself with delight, these are only statistics, and I would remind you of your opinion that all statistics are 'bollix'. Only the ones you don't like, apparently. The Duke of Edinburgh was noted as saying " There are only 3 ststistics that matter. They're vital." -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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