In my lounge there are 3 radiators (gas CH) one at each end of the
lounge and one in the middle, the middle one has the room thermostat
about a foot to one side and about 3 feet above it.
Something tells me this is not a good set up, so without moving anything
whats my best solution. The radiator has a temp valve on it.
Should I turn the temp valve down low, it seems to me that with the
thermostat being so close it will be closing the heating down
prematurely as it catches the heat from the rad before the room gets up
to temp.
I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.

ss wrote:

I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.

It's very unchivalrous to refer to your wife, or indeed any lady, as 'it'.

Bill

On 23/01/2015 17:14, ss wrote:
In my lounge there are 3 radiators (gas CH) one at each end of the
lounge and one in the middle, the middle one has the room thermostat
about a foot to one side and about 3 feet above it.
Something tells me this is not a good set up, so without moving anything
whats my best solution. The radiator has a temp valve on it.
Should I turn the temp valve down low, it seems to me that with the
thermostat being so close it will be closing the heating down
prematurely as it catches the heat from the rad before the room gets up
to temp.
I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.


Get a wireless thermostat and fit the receiver to the existing wiring
(existing thermostat position) and place the sender elsewhere in the room.

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On 23/01/2015 20:13, alan_m wrote:
Get a wireless thermostat and fit the receiver to the existing wiring
(existing thermostat position) and place the sender elsewhere in the room.

OK thanks

On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 17:14:51 +0000, ss wrote:

In my lounge there are 3 radiators (gas CH) one at each end of the
lounge and one in the middle, the middle one has the room thermostat
about a foot to one side and about 3 feet above it.
Something tells me this is not a good set up, so without moving anything
whats my best solution. The radiator has a temp valve on it.
Should I turn the temp valve down low, it seems to me that with the
thermostat being so close it will be closing the heating down
prematurely as it catches the heat from the rad before the room gets up
to temp.
I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.

Does the wall thermostat just control the lounge "zone" or does it
turn off all the radiators when it reaches its set-point?

If the former, then the TRVs in the lounge are redundant.

If the latter, and is much more likley to be the case, you would be
better to relocate the wall thermostat to a room that is heated but
intended to be cooler than the main rooms, typically the hallway.

The TRV head in this room should be removed or set to full on.



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On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:13:21 +0000, alan_m
wrote:

On 23/01/2015 17:14, ss wrote:
In my lounge there are 3 radiators (gas CH) one at each end of the
lounge and one in the middle, the middle one has the room thermostat
about a foot to one side and about 3 feet above it.
Something tells me this is not a good set up, so without moving anything
whats my best solution. The radiator has a temp valve on it.
Should I turn the temp valve down low, it seems to me that with the
thermostat being so close it will be closing the heating down
prematurely as it catches the heat from the rad before the room gets up
to temp.
I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.


Get a wireless thermostat and fit the receiver to the existing wiring
(existing thermostat position) and place the sender elsewhere in the room.

I would locate the receiver at the boiler / wiring centre. There might
not be a neutral on the existing thermostat.



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Graham.

%Profound_observation%

You need to look at your heating system as a whole. Also take any residents complaints about cold seriously otherwise why have central heating? As posted before, if your whole system is controlled by this thermostat then it is best to have it in the room you want to be the coolest. My experience after having 3 new boilers and new radiators and new rooms in 2 houses over 25 years is that a wireless thermostat gives you flexibility. But does your boiler do wireless? If it does then you can experiment with different rooms/positions/temperatures until the central heating does what it supposed to do - make everyone warm and happy but efficiently. You need to know how your system works and heats each room if you are going to do it yourself. Thermostat position, balancing, and residents ok's are then needed to be done. Otherwise get a good specialist but you will need to have a feel for what you need. As an example, my recent boiler and extra shower room downstairs meant a new boiler. First with the thermostat box (wireless) in the kitchen, the TV room and bedrooms were boiling but the new shower room was cold. After some experimenting I have switched off one of the radiators in the TV room and also drastically reduced the radiators heat up upstairs. Now the the system works fine for us -toasty where toasty is needed and luke warm where we don't spend much time. One thing also .... WHY do you need 3 radiators in one room? It was the addition of new wall and roof insulation that caused my over-heating problems in the first place!

On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
WHY do you need 3 radiators in one room? It was the addition of new wall and roof insulation that caused my over-heating problems in the first place!

We moved in a couple of years back and I am now getting around to
sorting some issues out. The lounge probably had 2 rads originally but
then an extension was added on so looks like they put another in the ext
making 3 in total
The lounge is 25 x 14 feet with 2 x single 55" rads and 1 x 55" double.

On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
But does your boiler do wireless? ...
....and if it doesn't, you could add wireless capability e.g.
http://www.screwfix.com/c/heating-plumbing/wireless-thermostats/cat4600004

On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
if your whole system is controlled by this
thermostat then it is best to have it in the room you want to be the
coolest.

??

Doesn't that mean that the system will turn off before the other rooms
are up to temperature? I have always installed thermostats in the room
we occupy the most and then balanced the system to choke off the flow to
that room compared with the others. That way we get the temperature we
want in the room that's most important and the other rooms get the best
chance to reach the temperature we want in them.

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On 25/01/2015 13:50, F wrote:
On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
if your whole system is controlled by this
thermostat then it is best to have it in the room you want to be the
coolest.

??

Doesn't that mean that the system will turn off before the other rooms
are up to temperature? I have always installed thermostats in the room
we occupy the most and then balanced the system to choke off the flow to
that room compared with the others. That way we get the temperature we
want in the room that's most important and the other rooms get the best
chance to reach the temperature we want in them.


I agree. I originally had my thermostat in the hallway and saved 15 to
20% of my gas consumption by moving the thermostat to the main room
where the heating is required to give a degree of comfort whilst
watching TV. The system is balanced/adjusted to give lower temperatures
elsewhere in the house. I've never been a fan of heating the whole house
to the same temperature or sleeping in overheated bedrooms.

It may also be advisable to remove thermostatic radiator valves in the
room with the wall thermostat to prevent the radiators shutting down
before the room has reached the required temperature.

Feeling cold may also be just a draught at the legs/feet level due to
internal doors not having a draught excluder.

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On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:15:03 PM UTC, ss wrote:
In my lounge there are 3 radiators (gas CH) one at each end of the
lounge and one in the middle, the middle one has the room thermostat
about a foot to one side and about 3 feet above it.
Something tells me this is not a good set up, so without moving anything
whats my best solution. The radiator has a temp valve on it.
Should I turn the temp valve down low, it seems to me that with the
thermostat being so close it will be closing the heating down
prematurely as it catches the heat from the rad before the room gets up
to temp.
I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.

Turning the rad under the stat off would make the stat work, but you might or might not then have enough rad output for a cold snap. Moving the stat is best, and sounds like a fairly easy diy job. Unless the room's wallpapered.


NT

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
if your whole system is controlled by this
thermostat then it is best to have it in the room you want to be the
coolest.

??

Doesn't that mean that the system will turn off before the other rooms are
up to temperature? I have always installed thermostats in the room we
occupy the most and then balanced the system to choke off the flow to that
room compared with the others. That way we get the temperature we want in
the room that's most important and the other rooms get the best chance to
reach the temperature we want in them.


Try that if you have a cat - the rules are that all internal doors must be
left open:-)

--
Adam

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:19:59 +0000, ARW wrote:

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
if your whole system is controlled by this
thermostat then it is best to have it in the room you want to be the
coolest.

??

Doesn't that mean that the system will turn off before the other rooms
are up to temperature? I have always installed thermostats in the room
we occupy the most and then balanced the system to choke off the flow
to that room compared with the others. That way we get the temperature
we want in the room that's most important and the other rooms get the
best chance to reach the temperature we want in them.


Try that if you have a cat - the rules are that all internal doors must
be left open:-)

We actually have cat flaps (sort of) in two of the internal doors.



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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:19:59 +0000, ARW wrote:

"F" news@nowhere wrote in message
o.uk...
On 24/01/2015 00:31, Ernest Clark wrote:
if your whole system is controlled by this
thermostat then it is best to have it in the room you want to be the
coolest.

??

Doesn't that mean that the system will turn off before the other rooms
are up to temperature? I have always installed thermostats in the room
we occupy the most and then balanced the system to choke off the flow
to that room compared with the others. That way we get the temperature
we want in the room that's most important and the other rooms get the
best chance to reach the temperature we want in them.


Try that if you have a cat - the rules are that all internal doors must
be left open:-)

We actually have cat flaps (sort of) in two of the internal doors.



Had my cat not passed away then I was going to to that.

It is time for me to get a a new cat - no home is complete without a pet.

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Adam

On 25/01/2015 15:10, wrote:
On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:15:03 PM UTC, ss wrote:
In my lounge there are 3 radiators (gas CH) one at each end of the
lounge and one in the middle, the middle one has the room thermostat
about a foot to one side and about 3 feet above it.
Something tells me this is not a good set up, so without moving anything
whats my best solution. The radiator has a temp valve on it.
Should I turn the temp valve down low, it seems to me that with the
thermostat being so close it will be closing the heating down
prematurely as it catches the heat from the rad before the room gets up
to temp.
I rarely sit in the room but wife complains its cold but then she is
inactive watching TV so I have tended to ignore it.

Turning the rad under the stat off would make the stat work, but you might or might not then have enough rad output for a cold snap. Moving the stat is best, and sounds like a fairly easy diy job. Unless the room's wallpapered.


NT
Previous owners have what appears to be like a lining paper on the walls
painted over. I`ll mess around with that rad and see what happens.