As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!
--
Bill

in 1363450 20150120 015449 Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

Please bear in mind that if you do shoot him you could possibly be saving the
rest of us from a similar experience. ;-)

On 20/01/2015 01:54, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

Only if you are both in Hereford and you use a cross-bow.

On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:55:23 UTC, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

write to the head office, tell them what hteir sales team is doing. And name them here!


NT

On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 08:24:08 UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:55:23 UTC, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

write to the head office, tell them what hteir sales team is doing. And name them here!

+1

Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.

Executing him seems a little harsh considering that you could have ended
the conversation any time you wanted to.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

Well, I don't think it is, but on the other hand there is a saying to the
effect that the only reason some people are still alive is that it is
illegal to kill them.
Allied to this is the one that says, never hit a man with glasses, always
use something bigger and heavier.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Bill" wrote in message
...
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his home
phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double glazing
company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year before. He
asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an hour before.
To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor of the home that
he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try and sell me more
double glazing. He would not take no for an answer until I hung up on
him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell chance
in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!
--
Bill

I believe there is an old Law in the States of Guernsey which allows one to
kill, but you have to use certain Guernsey language phrases and it must
occur on your own property. It occurred to me that while all this reciting
of old law was going on, the smart victim has probably made themselves
scarce,which is probably why its been over 100 years since it was invoked.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"N_Cook" wrote in message
...
On 20/01/2015 01:54, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

Only if you are both in Hereford and you use a cross-bow.

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:33:25 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

write to the head office, tell them what hteir sales team is
doing. And
name them here!

+1

Condolences to to the OP and +1 for the above but do a bit of digging
on the net and personally address the polite and factual letter
(snail mail) to the MD or CEO. Just sending it to HO will mean only a
customer services rep gets to see it.

Once all the formalities have been completed see what response there
has been from the MD/CEO. If none or not satisfactory the tabloids
love this sort of story, particularly if it involves a known brand
name.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:42:16 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote:

Executing him seems a little harsh considering that you could have ended
the conversation any time you wanted to.

Well, quite.

Why not just hang up as soon as it became clear it was a sales call?

On 20/01/2015 08:49, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:54:49 +0000, Bill wrote:

As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

They *will* have a copy of that call, which you can insist on hearing
under the DPA.

Maybe find out if they are members of any professional organisations, and
inform them in the same letter (cc).


I remember a lady ringing a theatre ticket agency to say her and her
husband wouldn't be able to make the matinee performance as the husband
had died suddenly. The guy at the other end offered to cancel one seat

In message , stuart noble
writes
On 20/01/2015 08:49, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:54:49 +0000, Bill wrote:

As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

They *will* have a copy of that call, which you can insist on hearing
under the DPA.

Maybe find out if they are members of any professional organisations, and
inform them in the same letter (cc).


I remember a lady ringing a theatre ticket agency to say her and her
husband wouldn't be able to make the matinee performance as the husband
had died suddenly. The guy at the other end offered to cancel one seat

He would never make a double glazing salesman, he was far too
sympathetic towards her!

--
Bill

On 20/01/2015 08:24, wrote:
On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:55:23 UTC, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

You waited too long before hanging up in that case.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

write to the head office, tell them what hteir sales team is doing. And name them here!

Worst one I had was Coop Insurance on the day of the funeral hassling me
to use them to do the probate for his estate. I told them to get knotted
in no uncertain terms and made a formal complaint.

The other lot who have proved incredibly difficult to get rid of have
been Age Concern(sales dept) who should damn well know better.

Deceased preference service helps a bit but basically you need a stock
letter, sticky labels and a big black marker pen for return to sender.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On 20/01/2015 9:19 am, stuart noble wrote:
On 20/01/2015 08:49, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:54:49 +0000, Bill wrote:

As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

They *will* have a copy of that call, which you can insist on hearing
under the DPA.

Maybe find out if they are members of any professional organisations, and
inform them in the same letter (cc).


I remember a lady ringing a theatre ticket agency to say her and her
husband wouldn't be able to make the matinee performance as the husband
had died suddenly. The guy at the other end offered to cancel one seat


That's a tad like the old tale of the chap sitting next to an empty seat
in position A on the half way line at the Superbowl. The man next to him
asked why the empty seat, when they were like gold to get hold of.
"It was my wife's seat, and she died", he said.
"Couldn't you get a friend to come with you?", said his neighbour.
"They're all at the funeral", said the man.


--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Results are what you expect, and consequences are what you get.

"Bill" wrote in message
...
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers bedside, he had
died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his home phone, call on my mobile from
a salesman from a national double glazing company following up on a sale that they had
made to dad a year before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died,
an hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor of the home
that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try and sell me more double
glazing. He would not take no for an answer until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot him, I would
feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I have used this company
before, but they do not stand a cat in hell chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at the time!!
--
Bill


Condolences on your loss but you may possibly have been a victim
of the fact that saying someone has just died may have been
recommended by someone somewhere, as an easy way of getting
telesales people off the line. Or maybe the telesales people
have been trained to believe this.
Obviously its impossible to know but it might be interesting
to know just how often this is used as an excuse as compared
to how often it actually happens to be true, as in your own
case. Just a thought.


michael adams

....

On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 01:55:23 UTC, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Condolences.

You should have told him the window falling out killed your father and asked him how much compensation he was going to pay you.

Owain

In article ,
Bill wrote:
Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

No jury would ever find you guilty. ;-)

--
*Venison for dinner again? Oh deer!*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Adrian
scribeth thus
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:42:16 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote:

Executing him seems a little harsh considering that you could have ended
the conversation any time you wanted to.

Well, quite.

Why not just hang up as soon as it became clear it was a sales call?

Having met Bill he is perhaps to much of a gent to do that..
--
Tony Sayer

..

Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a
year before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had
died, an hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably
the inheritor of the home that he could speak with me instead, and
proceeded to try and sell me more double glazing. He would not take
no for an answer until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and
shoot him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious
idiot. I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat
in hell chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so
at the time!!

I can't really answer that Bill, but I can relate my own, rather painful
experience.

Way back in 1969, we had just lost our 13 hours old son, (our first child)
when a Jehovah witness disciple came knocking our door an hour after I had
been told about this (and before I could even see my wife) and he tried his
usual spiel of his version of religion on me; and even after I had politely
explained that I wasn't interested and why, he persisted - right up until my
fist hit him and knocked him over the garden wall.

The police (who were sensible and sympathetic in those days) didn't pursue
the matter - and the god-botherers *NEVER* knocked our door again at that
address. We moved house some years after, and lo and behold, the idiots
made the mistake of again knocking on our door - and after I had verbally
abused them and their god for a few minutes (ably assissted by my wife),
they departed and have never darkened our door to this day.

My condolences for your loss Bill - and if you know the company, go and bang
the managers door and lay into him!

Cash

In message , tony sayer
writes
In article , Adrian
scribeth thus
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:42:16 +0000, Mike Barnes wrote:

Executing him seems a little harsh considering that you could have ended
the conversation any time you wanted to.

Well, quite.

Why not just hang up as soon as it became clear it was a sales call?

Having met Bill he is perhaps to much of a gent to do that..


Thanks Tony :-)

I was feeling anything but gentlemanly at the time! I did rather hope
that he would realise the situation, apologise and then go away. But
he didn't. My only plan at the moment is to wait until the next call,
the above one was actually the second within a week, the first from the
same company, was from a female who did appear sympathetic when told
that dad was in hospital and not going to survive, she said sorry for
bothering me and left it at that. The next call, should it arrive will
be met with a request to speak with a supervisor. It will probably
occur during the funeral service, I must remember to turn my phone off
!!!!
--
Bill

On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:11:56 UTC, Bill wrote:

Thanks Tony :-)

I was feeling anything but gentlemanly at the time! I did rather hope
that he would realise the situation, apologise and then go away. But
he didn't. My only plan at the moment is to wait until the next call,
the above one was actually the second within a week, the first from the
same company, was from a female who did appear sympathetic when told
that dad was in hospital and not going to survive, she said sorry for
bothering me and left it at that. The next call, should it arrive will
be met with a request to speak with a supervisor. It will probably
occur during the funeral service, I must remember to turn my phone off
!!!!

Supervisor won't give a monkeys, hes the one pushing the sales team on. Directors will care, they have to think of the company's image, and likely don't know how depraved their salesteam are.


NT

On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:11:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Supervisor won't give a monkeys, hes the one pushing the sales team on.

They might care if they get the impression that they will be visited
bya tonne of bricks from above...

Directors will care, they have to think of the company's image,

Might, depends on how the company is structered. Anglian has a head
office but all the branches are franchises, head office don't give a
fig about the franchises let alone the customers.

and likely don't know how depraved their salesteam are.

That's also assuming that the salesteam is in house. Not likely these
days it will be outsourced to a call center and what the salesteam
actually get up to won't be reported back...

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 20/01/2015 01:54, Bill wrote:
As I walked out of a hospital last week having just left my fathers
bedside, he had died an hour before, I received a diverted, from his
home phone, call on my mobile from a salesman from a national double
glazing company following up on a sale that they had made to dad a year
before. He asked to speak with dad and I told him that he had died, an
hour before. To this he replied that as I was presumably the inheritor
of the home that he could speak with me instead, and proceeded to try
and sell me more double glazing. He would not take no for an answer
until I hung up on him.

Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot. I
have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

Sorry to hear your bad news .

A simple "not in the least interested" then hang up as soon as you
realise it is a sales call would have done .

Don't wait for him to take "no" for an answer just hang-up.

You owe these people nothing, no need to stay on the line to 'be
polite' etc, (although there is no need to be out and out rude -
blowing whistles down the line, swearing at them etc) just hang up.

Can you detect a trend here ? Hang-up so you don't get stressed, and
live longer

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 11:28:06 AM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:11:53 -0800 (PST), wrote:

Supervisor won't give a monkeys, hes the one pushing the sales team on.

They might care if they get the impression that they will be visited
bya tonne of bricks from above...

Directors will care, they have to think of the company's image,

Might, depends on how the company is structered. Anglian has a head
office but all the branches are franchises, head office don't give a
fig about the franchises let alone the customers.

and likely don't know how depraved their salesteam are.

That's also assuming that the salesteam is in house. Not likely these
days it will be outsourced to a call center and what the salesteam
actually get up to won't be reported back...

--
Cheers
Dave.

Lot of companys have a well founded fear of Twitter, suggest to unwanted callers that you will be publishing the details of their insensitivity via Facebook and Twitter and inviting the internet at large to contact the company and its directors personally about the matter, Provide all phone ,fax and email details you can.

Other internet researchers will dig up employee details , personal mobiles and home addresses.

Here would be a good place to start , Who was the company? Any person to ask for by name?

In message , Adam
Aglionby writes

Lot of companys have a well founded fear of Twitter, suggest to
unwanted callers that you will be publishing the details of their
insensitivity via Facebook and Twitter and inviting the internet at
large to contact the company and its directors personally about the
matter, Provide all phone ,fax and email details you can.

Other internet researchers will dig up employee details , personal
mobiles and home addresses.

Here would be a good place to start , Who was the company? Any person
to ask for by name?


I was not in a good place to remember the exact wording of the
conversation, although my initial account was fairly accurate. If,
when, I get any more calls I will be prepared to make a better record
and if they are as upsetting and as insensitive at the last then I shall
not hesitate in forwarding details here,there and everywhere else. They
have one last chance to be understanding before being told what I think
of double glazing salesmen.

I can always, somewhat unrealistically, that they have marked the
account not to be called.

In the mean time I will not, nor have any intention to, be climbing any
very high Himalayan mountains :-)
--
Bill

In article ,
says...

In article ,
Bill wrote:
Please tell me that in this circumstance I can track him down and shoot
him, I would feel better and it may save others from an obvious idiot.
I have used this company before, but they do not stand a cat in hell
chance in the future!!

PS. I don't really intend on shooting him, but just may have done so at
the time!!

No jury would ever find you guilty. ;-)

More bad news. Telesales droids can vote - and serve on juries.

--
Sam

on 1/20/2015, michael adams supposed :
Obviously its impossible to know but it might be interesting
to know just how often this is used as an excuse as compared
to how often it actually happens to be true, as in your own
case. Just a thought.

Who needs an excuse, just give them a barrage of Anglo Saxon and drop
the line before they think up a reply...

Do they deserve any manners?

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk