This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror, it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room, and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box. But it's intended to do the opposite of this.

--
Jack and Jill went up the hill
And planned to do some kissing.
Jack made a pass, and grabbed her ass
Now two of his teeth are missing.

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:27:56 -0000, Dennis@home wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

Surely this would (say the dots cover 50% of the area) provide the bird with half as much image of the people as normal glass, and also give a 50% bright image of itself. But.... since the bird box is dark in comparison to the living room, the 50% reflection it sees is dimmer than the 50% transmitted light from the living room.

I asked this question previously about the tinted glass you an get for privacy on building windows and for show on cars, and why you couldn't get something that stopped you seeing into the car without reducing the visibility looking out of the car. That stuff doesn't appear to be any different no matter which way round you fit it - I assume that has dots with a mirror on both sides. So why don't they make the car window film of the same stuff as the bird box? Then you'd just get a dimmer view, not a reflection of yourself obstructing your vision.

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Every day more money is printed for Monopoly than the US Treasury.

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.

It is possible to create different transmission / reflection using a
combination of different forms of polarisers.

Not sure if that's the technique here though. It might well be the
silver/white/black masking that another poster described.

Either way I would expect significant attenuation.

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Also how do those now you see them, now you don't mirrors work. I was
talking to somebody who went to a club up in London and he said they have
booths up there that look mirrored but you can see out, but if you flick a
switch it turns into almost clear glass both ways.

Brian

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"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror, it
simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light side
reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but the dark
side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to the
above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room, and
the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box. But it's
intended to do the opposite of this.

--
Jack and Jill went up the hill
And planned to do some kissing.
Jack made a pass, and grabbed her ass
Now two of his teeth are missing.

Hang on but the bird womt see its reflection as presumably it has no light
in its box.
Brian

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"Dennis@home" wrote in message
web.com...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

On 13/01/2015 18:57, Uncle Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:27:56 -0000, Dennis@home
wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

Surely this would (say the dots cover 50% of the area) provide the bird
with half as much image of the people as normal glass, and also give a
50% bright image of itself. But.... since the bird box is dark in
comparison to the living room, the 50% reflection it sees is dimmer than
the 50% transmitted light from the living room.

I asked this question previously about the tinted glass you an get for
privacy on building windows and for show on cars, and why you couldn't
get something that stopped you seeing into the car without reducing the
visibility looking out of the car.

Cars in the UK have to have very light tints to be legal.
You couldn't do any sort of one way on the front windows or screen
without breaking the law.

That stuff doesn't appear to be any
different no matter which way round you fit it - I assume that has dots
with a mirror on both sides.

That would only work if it was dark on one side.

So why don't they make the car window film
of the same stuff as the bird box? Then you'd just get a dimmer view,
not a reflection of yourself obstructing your vision.


They do make car window film like that, but not mirrored. the adverts on
buses are like that, you see the advert from outside, you see a tinted
window from inside.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:20:58 -0000, Dennis@home wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:57, Uncle Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:27:56 -0000, Dennis@home
wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

Surely this would (say the dots cover 50% of the area) provide the bird
with half as much image of the people as normal glass, and also give a
50% bright image of itself. But.... since the bird box is dark in
comparison to the living room, the 50% reflection it sees is dimmer than
the 50% transmitted light from the living room.

I asked this question previously about the tinted glass you an get for
privacy on building windows and for show on cars, and why you couldn't
get something that stopped you seeing into the car without reducing the
visibility looking out of the car.

Cars in the UK have to have very light tints to be legal.
You couldn't do any sort of one way on the front windows or screen
without breaking the law.

That stuff doesn't appear to be any
different no matter which way round you fit it - I assume that has dots
with a mirror on both sides.

That would only work if it was dark on one side.

So why don't they make the car window film
of the same stuff as the bird box? Then you'd just get a dimmer view,
not a reflection of yourself obstructing your vision.


They do make car window film like that, but not mirrored. the adverts on
buses are like that, you see the advert from outside, you see a tinted
window from inside.

Surely mirrored would be better for car window tints. You'd get the same light reduction from the driver's point of view, but outside looking in, you would see reflection instead of darkness on the dots, hence it would be even harder to see in.

--
More than 10,000 people in England and Wales required professional treatment for injuries caused by home telephones in 2002.

Even worse, so the bird would still see only the living room, but just 50% of the light. The people would also se the bird at 50% brightness.


On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:18:39 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

Hang on but the bird womt see its reflection as presumably it has no light
in its box.
Brian



--
Computers are like air conditioners: They stop working when you open Windows.

LCD presumably. Your watch can "at the flick of a switch" make each segment opaque or see through. There must be some crystals that are one way mirrors instead of black.


On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:16:58 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

Also how do those now you see them, now you don't mirrors work. I was
talking to somebody who went to a club up in London and he said they have
booths up there that look mirrored but you can see out, but if you flick a
switch it turns into almost clear glass both ways.

Brian



--
If a cow laughs, does milk come out of its nose?

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:15:24 -0000, OG wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

I had assumed the entry hole (as it's small) wouldn't provide as much light as the living room lit by sunlight through the rest of the large window.

--
Collectively, humans have spent almost 13,261 years watching the Gangnam Style video.

"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the pane
of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of the
room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

Brian Gaff wrote

Also how do those now you see them, now you don't mirrors work. I was
talking to somebody who went to a club up in London and he said they have
booths up there that look mirrored but you can see out, but if you flick a
switch it turns into almost clear glass both ways.

That sort of glass has been around for quite a while now.

At least one of the Grand Designs houses
had them on the bedroom windows etc.

They're similar technology to LCD displays.


"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but the
dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to the
above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room, and
the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box. But
it's intended to do the opposite of this.

--
Jack and Jill went up the hill
And planned to do some kissing.
Jack made a pass, and grabbed her ass
Now two of his teeth are missing.

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So, mirrors are made from Duck Tape?



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 20:06:48 -0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So, mirrors are made from Duck Tape?

Are you quoting from Spaceballs?

--
The New York Times, among other papers, recently published a new Hubble photograph of distant galaxies colliding.
Of course, astronomers have had pictures of colliding galaxies for quite some time now, but with the vastly improved resolution provided by the Hubble Space Telescope, you can actually see the lawyers rushing to the scene...

Uncle Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:20:58 -0000, Dennis@home
wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:57, Uncle Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:27:56 -0000, Dennis@home
wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way
mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

Surely this would (say the dots cover 50% of the area) provide the bird
with half as much image of the people as normal glass, and also give a
50% bright image of itself. But.... since the bird box is dark in
comparison to the living room, the 50% reflection it sees is dimmer than
the 50% transmitted light from the living room.

I asked this question previously about the tinted glass you an get for
privacy on building windows and for show on cars, and why you couldn't
get something that stopped you seeing into the car without reducing the
visibility looking out of the car.

Cars in the UK have to have very light tints to be legal.
You couldn't do any sort of one way on the front windows or screen
without breaking the law.

That stuff doesn't appear to be any
different no matter which way round you fit it - I assume that has dots
with a mirror on both sides.

That would only work if it was dark on one side.

So why don't they make the car window film
of the same stuff as the bird box? Then you'd just get a dimmer view,
not a reflection of yourself obstructing your vision.


They do make car window film like that, but not mirrored. the adverts on
buses are like that, you see the advert from outside, you see a tinted
window from inside.

Surely mirrored would be better for car window tints. You'd get the
same light reduction from the driver's point of view, but outside
looking in, you would see reflection instead of darkness on the dots,
hence it would be even harder to see in.

And reflect blinding light to other drivers?

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:11:49 -0000, "Uncle Peter" wrote:
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So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/

I don't think it does. The advert shows a separate very dark film in
one picture - all the others look like there's no film at all. There
are no testimonials from the birds!
--
Dave W

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 12:17:09 -0000, Dave W wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:11:49 -0000, "Uncle Peter" wrote:
long lines snipped to allow reply via Agent
So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/

I don't think it does. The advert shows a separate very dark film in
one picture - all the others look like there's no film at all. There
are no testimonials from the birds!

They probably don't care that they can see us. Most birds treat humans as a source of food.

--
Seven dwarfs sat in the tub, feeling Happy.
Then Happy got out, so they all felt Grumpy.

On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:24:12 -0000, F Murtz wrote:

Uncle Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:20:58 -0000, Dennis@home
wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:57, Uncle Peter wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:27:56 -0000, Dennis@home
wrote:

On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way
mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


Just imagine a grid of black spots on a piece of glass, you can see
through it and it looks like its tinted.
Now overlay mirror dots on the black dots, its now a mirror on one side
and tinted glass on the other.
It will be difficult to see through the mirrored side as even the light
filtering through will be enough to make the birds reflection much
brighter than the inside of the room.

Surely this would (say the dots cover 50% of the area) provide the bird
with half as much image of the people as normal glass, and also give a
50% bright image of itself. But.... since the bird box is dark in
comparison to the living room, the 50% reflection it sees is dimmer than
the 50% transmitted light from the living room.

I asked this question previously about the tinted glass you an get for
privacy on building windows and for show on cars, and why you couldn't
get something that stopped you seeing into the car without reducing the
visibility looking out of the car.

Cars in the UK have to have very light tints to be legal.
You couldn't do any sort of one way on the front windows or screen
without breaking the law.

That stuff doesn't appear to be any
different no matter which way round you fit it - I assume that has dots
with a mirror on both sides.

That would only work if it was dark on one side.

So why don't they make the car window film
of the same stuff as the bird box? Then you'd just get a dimmer view,
not a reflection of yourself obstructing your vision.


They do make car window film like that, but not mirrored. the adverts on
buses are like that, you see the advert from outside, you see a tinted
window from inside.

Surely mirrored would be better for car window tints. You'd get the
same light reduction from the driver's point of view, but outside
looking in, you would see reflection instead of darkness on the dots,
hence it would be even harder to see in.

And reflect blinding light to other drivers?

From where? Their own badly adjusted headlights? Now there's an idea.


--
"All you need is love, money, broadband, good health, satellite TV, a fast car, ......." - The Beatles

On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:49:33 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the pane
of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of the
room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

More expensive and more hassle.

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Reticulating splines....

"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:49:33 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the pane
of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the
room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

More expensive

Nope, cameras cost peanuts now.

and more hassle.

Much less hassle in fact. That stupid system requires you to cover
the inside of the glass every night and take it off next day.

Much less hassle to just use the remote on the TV when you want to perve.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 21:55:00 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:49:33 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the pane
of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the
room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

More expensive

Nope, cameras cost peanuts now.

and more hassle.

Much less hassle in fact. That stupid system requires you to cover
the inside of the glass every night and take it off next day.

Why would you have to do that?

Much less hassle to just use the remote on the TV when you want to perve.

With the box, you can see it at all times, even when you're watching TV on the TV.

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"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 21:55:00 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 19:49:33 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:



"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way
mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the
light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane
of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the
room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV
etc.

More expensive

Nope, cameras cost peanuts now.

and more hassle.

Much less hassle in fact. That stupid system requires you to cover
the inside of the glass every night and take it off next day.

Why would you have to do that?

Because the room is much brighter than
the box at night, so the birds don't nest there.

Much less hassle to just use the remote on the TV when you want to perve.

With the box, you can see it at all times,

Not when you have to cover it at night.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:32:49 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:



"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 21:55:00 -0000, Rod Speed
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"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
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"OG" wrote in message
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On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way
mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the
light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane
of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at
night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the
room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV
etc.

More expensive

Nope, cameras cost peanuts now.

and more hassle.

Much less hassle in fact. That stupid system requires you to cover
the inside of the glass every night and take it off next day.

Why would you have to do that?

Because the room is much brighter than
the box at night, so the birds don't nest there.

Much less hassle to just use the remote on the TV when you want to perve.

With the box, you can see it at all times,

Not when you have to cover it at night.

Oh.


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On 13/01/2015 19:49, Rod Speed wrote:


"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

We've had one of those for a few years now. The 2 main downsides a

* You only get a top-down view
* For affordable ones you have to pre-set the focus before the birds
build their nest, and you can't tell what depth of nesting materials
will be used.

Aldi generally sell them in the week or two before Christmas - £40 for
one with a colour camera and ir illumination at night. If you're lucky
you might find they still have one in their stock room

Otherwise they are available online for a bit more.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:09:57 -0000, OG wrote:

On 13/01/2015 19:49, Rod Speed wrote:


"OG" wrote in message
...
On 13/01/2015 18:11, Uncle Peter wrote:
This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box..
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.


The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

We've had one of those for a few years now. The 2 main downsides a

* You only get a top-down view
* For affordable ones you have to pre-set the focus before the birds
build their nest, and you can't tell what depth of nesting materials
will be used.

Aldi generally sell them in the week or two before Christmas - £40 for
one with a colour camera and ir illumination at night. If you're lucky
you might find they still have one in their stock room

Otherwise they are available online for a bit more.

I once (when breeding Blue Crowned Conures (small parrots)) placed a cheap (fiver) webcam with 10 IR LEDs (taken from old TV remotes) stuck around it. It produced a perfectly good BnW image. The focussing wasn't a problem, because webcams have a decent depth of field.

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On 14/01/2015 03:24, F Murtz wrote:
And reflect blinding light to other drivers?

I'm seriously tempted to put some on my back window. After all, it would
be their misaligned headlights shining back at them. Biter bit!

Andy

OG wrote
Rod Speed wrote
OG wrote
Uncle Peter wrote

This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.

The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

We've had one of those for a few years now. The 2 main downsides a

* You only get a top-down view

It wouldn't be hard to have a bigger box with a transparent
wall so you get the same view as with the one way mirror.

* For affordable ones you have to pre-set the focus before the birds build
their nest, and you can't tell what depth of nesting materials will be
used.

Variable focus is easy enough to do with an
obsolete smartphone permanently on the charger.

Then you could ring the birds when you are bored too.

Don't use an iphone tho, those can't be set to auto answer.

The obsolete phone approach would allow you to not
have to fart around with any wiring at all, just have the
phone on your wifi and call it from the tablet etc.

Aldi generally sell them in the week or two before Christmas - £40 for one
with a colour camera and ir illumination at night. If you're lucky you
might find they still have one in their stock room

Otherwise they are available online for a bit more.

I'd go the obsolete phone route myself.

Even cheap new one would be cheaper than that.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:05:14 -0000, Rod Speed wrote:

OG wrote
Rod Speed wrote
OG wrote
Uncle Peter wrote

This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.

The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV etc.

We've had one of those for a few years now. The 2 main downsides a

* You only get a top-down view

It wouldn't be hard to have a bigger box with a transparent
wall so you get the same view as with the one way mirror.

* For affordable ones you have to pre-set the focus before the birds build
their nest, and you can't tell what depth of nesting materials will be
used.

Variable focus is easy enough to do with an
obsolete smartphone permanently on the charger.

Then you could ring the birds when you are bored too.

ROTFPMSL!

Don't use an iphone tho, those can't be set to auto answer.

Iphones can't do **** all, they're expensive shiny ornaments.

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It's a myth.

"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:05:14 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

OG wrote
Rod Speed wrote
OG wrote
Uncle Peter wrote

This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way
mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the
light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.

The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV
etc.

We've had one of those for a few years now. The 2 main downsides a

* You only get a top-down view

It wouldn't be hard to have a bigger box with a transparent
wall so you get the same view as with the one way mirror.

* For affordable ones you have to pre-set the focus before the birds
build
their nest, and you can't tell what depth of nesting materials will be
used.

Variable focus is easy enough to do with an
obsolete smartphone permanently on the charger.

Then you could ring the birds when you are bored too.

ROTFPMSL!

Don't use an iphone tho, those can't be set to auto answer.

Iphones can't do **** all, they're expensive shiny ornaments.

what a prick you really are
when is the last time you ****ed a woman with your little dick
you are a true ****** and will always be a ******

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You've heard of "Virgin Wool from New Zealand?"
It's a myth.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 21:49:46 -0000, Mick wrote:


"Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:05:14 -0000, Rod Speed
wrote:

OG wrote
Rod Speed wrote
OG wrote
Uncle Peter wrote

This was discussed before - there is no such thing as a one way
mirror,
it simply relies on the dark side giving off less light, and the
light
side reflecting more, so the light side cannot see the dark side, but
the dark side can see the light side.

So how does this work? https://www.myspybirdhouse.com/ According to
the above, the bird should see the people in the better lit living
room,
and the people should not see the bird in the poorly lit wooden box.
But it's intended to do the opposite of this.

The kit seems to come with a semi mirrored film that you put on the
pane of glass.

It also comes with a hanging shutter with a suction pad that is used
at night to shade the interior of the box from light from the room.

Presumably, during the day, the box is likely to get most of its
illumination from the entry hole, and lighting coming from the back of
the room won't be so intrusive.

Makes more sense to have a camera in the box and show that on the TV
etc.

We've had one of those for a few years now. The 2 main downsides a

* You only get a top-down view

It wouldn't be hard to have a bigger box with a transparent
wall so you get the same view as with the one way mirror.

* For affordable ones you have to pre-set the focus before the birds
build
their nest, and you can't tell what depth of nesting materials will be
used.

Variable focus is easy enough to do with an
obsolete smartphone permanently on the charger.

Then you could ring the birds when you are bored too.

ROTFPMSL!

Don't use an iphone tho, those can't be set to auto answer.

Iphones can't do **** all, they're expensive shiny ornaments.

what a prick you really are
when is the last time you ****ed a woman with your little dick
you are a true ****** and will always be a ******

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