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I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board.
Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? |
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On 02/01/2015 06:52, Charlie wrote:
I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? All depends on how well the floor tiles are stuck down. Last time I lifted some I used an angle grinder with stone cutting disk (like Toolstation 97863) to cut out the grout on a central tile, then lifted one at a time with a bolster working towards the walls. It was surprisingly easy. |
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On 02/01/15 06:52, Charlie wrote:
I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? I doubt that the act of shearing the edge floor tile from the adhesive will hurt the wall. However, if you can cut the grout line between wall and floor at the base of the wall with an angle grinder, Fein tool or somehow, that should provide a bit of decoupling when the floor tile lifts. You can then replace with a line of flexible sealant (what I usually do between floor and wall). |
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I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. |
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On Friday, January 2, 2015 8:30:44 AM UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/01/15 06:52, Charlie wrote: However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? However, if you can cut the grout line between wall and floor at the base of the wall with an angle grinder, Fein tool or somehow, that should provide a bit of decoupling when the floor tile lifts. +1 NT |
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On Friday, January 2, 2015 8:30:44 AM UTC, Tim Watts wrote:
On 02/01/15 06:52, Charlie wrote: I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? I doubt that the act of shearing the edge floor tile from the adhesive will hurt the wall. I once tried to remove and replace a cracked tile. Whilst using a bolster I managed damage an adjacent tile despite it being about 6" from where I was using the bolster. I guess I managed to "push" the piece of tile I was removing hard enough into the adjacent tile. If their is a small recess behind the wall tile (where it meets the floor) I'm worried the same sort of thing might happen. However, if you can cut the grout line between wall and floor at the base of the wall with an angle grinder, Fein tool or somehow, that should provide a bit of decoupling when the floor tile lifts. You can then replace with a line of flexible sealant (what I usually do between floor and wall). OK, makes sense. What about a dremmel or will that basically offer me the same. I'm completely removing all the floor tiles so I'll bear in mind using sealant when I re-tile the floor. Sorry for being a bit overcautious, it's just that I don't know where the previous owner bought the tiles and I have NO SPARES. |
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On Friday, January 2, 2015 8:52:36 PM UTC, Charlie wrote:
On Friday, January 2, 2015 8:30:44 AM UTC, Tim Watts wrote: On 02/01/15 06:52, Charlie wrote: I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? I doubt that the act of shearing the edge floor tile from the adhesive will hurt the wall. I once tried to remove and replace a cracked tile. Whilst using a bolster I managed damage an adjacent tile despite it being about 6" from where I was using the bolster. I guess I managed to "push" the piece of tile I was removing hard enough into the adjacent tile. If their is a small recess behind the wall tile (where it meets the floor) I'm worried the same sort of thing might happen. However, if you can cut the grout line between wall and floor at the base of the wall with an angle grinder, Fein tool or somehow, that should provide a bit of decoupling when the floor tile lifts. You can then replace with a line of flexible sealant (what I usually do between floor and wall). OK, makes sense. What about a dremmel or will that basically offer me the same. I'm completely removing all the floor tiles so I'll bear in mind using sealant when I re-tile the floor. Sorry for being a bit overcautious, it's just that I don't know where the previous owner bought the tiles and I have NO SPARES. dremel would take forever, just use a hand grout saw/remover. NT |
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On Friday, January 2, 2015 8:33:07 AM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. |
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On 02/01/2015 06:52, Charlie wrote:
I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Since it looks like the wall tiles went on first (ie they don't overlie the floor tiles) I wouldn't think you'd have too much trouble here. I would lift the tiles starting in the middle of the floor and work out to these more important edges. This will give you a feel for how well stuck everything is. Once you cut through the grout though, lifting the tiles shouldn't be too hard. I recently had to cut out a patch of tiles that had lost adhesion. I tried a few ways to break through the grout but the best by a long stretch was a carbide grit cutter on my mutlitool. I was a bit surprised as it was from one of the Aldi sets and I didn't expect it to last five minutes. |
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Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. |
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"Charlie" wrote in message ... I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? If you plan on re-tiling the floor, why not just tile over the floor tiles? Or, if you are laying vinyl or similar, lay that over the existing tiles. |
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On Saturday, January 3, 2015 6:12:47 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. Yes I'm going to throw them all away as I'm re-tiling the floor. I saw this this guy doing something similar too easy, has he got a hammer action on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_MweC_PAo |
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Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. Yes I'm going to throw them all away as I'm re-tiling the floor. OK, then I would break up the row of tiles that are one row in from the wall and then the one that is up against the wall. It should be very easy to do that without any risk of damage to the wall at all. Even less risk than using a multitool on the grout between the floor and the wall and less risk than using something to get rid of the grout one floor tile in from that and leavering the floor tiles once you have done that. I saw this this guy doing something similar too easy, has he got a hammer action on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_MweC_PAo Yes he has. I wouldn't do it that way myself, too easy to slip and go into the wall IMO. I'd use a lump hammer and chisel to break up the two rows of tiles as I stated above. www.google.com/search?q=lump+hammer&tbm=isch |
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On Sunday, January 4, 2015 6:19:28 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. Yes I'm going to throw them all away as I'm re-tiling the floor. OK, then I would break up the row of tiles that are one row in from the wall and then the one that is up against the wall. It should be very easy to do that without any risk of damage to the wall at all. Even less risk than using a multitool on the grout between the floor and the wall and less risk than using something to get rid of the grout one floor tile in from that and leavering the floor tiles once you have done that. I saw this this guy doing something similar too easy, has he got a hammer action on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_MweC_PAo Yes he has. I wouldn't do it that way myself, too easy to slip and go into the wall IMO. I'd use a lump hammer and chisel to break up the two rows of tiles as I stated above. www.google.com/search?q=lump+hammer&tbm=isch Rod has confidence in everything beyond reason |
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wrote in message ... On Sunday, January 4, 2015 6:19:28 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote: Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. Yes I'm going to throw them all away as I'm re-tiling the floor. OK, then I would break up the row of tiles that are one row in from the wall and then the one that is up against the wall. It should be very easy to do that without any risk of damage to the wall at all. Even less risk than using a multitool on the grout between the floor and the wall and less risk than using something to get rid of the grout one floor tile in from that and leavering the floor tiles once you have done that. I saw this this guy doing something similar too easy, has he got a hammer action on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_MweC_PAo Yes he has. I wouldn't do it that way myself, too easy to slip and go into the wall IMO. I'd use a lump hammer and chisel to break up the two rows of tiles as I stated above. www.google.com/search?q=lump+hammer&tbm=isch Rod has confidence in everything beyond reason You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. |
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On Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:30:32 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
wrote in message Rod has confidence in everything beyond reason You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. and thats his reply to almost everything |
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wrote in message ... On Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:30:32 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message Rod has confidence in everything beyond reason You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. and thats his reply to almost everything You never could bull**** and lie your way out of a wet paper bag. |
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wrote in message ... On Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:30:32 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote: wrote in message Rod has confidence in everything beyond reason You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. and thats his reply to almost everything How're you finding that groupie of yours |
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On Sunday, January 4, 2015 6:19:28 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. Yes I'm going to throw them all away as I'm re-tiling the floor. OK, then I would break up the row of tiles that are one row in from the wall and then the one that is up against the wall. It should be very easy to do that without any risk of damage to the wall at all. Even less risk than using a multitool on the grout between the floor and the wall and less risk than using something to get rid of the grout one floor tile in from that and leavering the floor tiles once you have done that. I saw this this guy doing something similar too easy, has he got a hammer action on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_MweC_PAo Yes he has. I wouldn't do it that way myself, too easy to slip and go into the wall IMO. I'd use a lump hammer and chisel to break up the two rows of tiles as I stated above. www.google.com/search?q=lump+hammer&tbm=isch Brilliant, cheers Rod |
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Charlie writes On Saturday, January 3, 2015 6:12:47 PM UTC, Rod Speed wrote: Charlie wrote Rod Speed wrote Charlie wrote I want to remove some floor tiles in my bathroom that are laid right up to a wall which is also tiled - there's no skirting board. Here's a pictu http://i60.tinypic.com/m565h.jpg However I'm worried about damaging the wall tiles due to the horizontal force travelling through the floor tiles. Unfortunately the previous owner left no spare wall tiles. What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Do you care about all the floor tiles ? You can obviously break the ones closest to the wall and can do that without damaging the wall tiles. No, I plan on removing all the floor tiles. Yes, but are you going to throw them away or reuse them ? It's the removal of the ones adjacent to the wall that I'm most concerned about, Yes, but if you aren't going to reuse them, you should be able to break the ones adjacent to the wall without damaging the wall tiles. especially if some of the plaster is missing at the base of the wall and there is a gap behind the bottom of the tile as it may crack easily if any force is applied to it. Yes I'm going to throw them all away as I'm re-tiling the floor. I saw this this guy doing something similar too easy, has he got a hammer action on that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs_MweC_PAo Probably, looks like an SDS drill. I think that if you take up the tiles in the middle of the floor first. Club hammer and bolster, though if you have an SDS drill then a chisel in that might be easier esp if they are stuck well. Then should be easier enough to lift the ones at the edge with out damaging the wall tiles. Once you have one out you can go along, rather than towards the wall anyway. If I was worried I'd use a Tungsten Carbide grit blade in a multitool to cut the tile/grout. -- Chris French |
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What's the best way to remove them without damaging the wall tiles? Bosch PMF or similar multitool. Best new invention for DIY. http://www.bosch-pmf.com/gb/en/ |
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