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During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other
half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:42:52 +0000, CB wrote:
During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr.../media/Public/ P1050230_zpsacaa2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation Suspect it is a 'filter' cap and seems to say PME271M568 which according to rifa is obsolete http://www.plccenter.co.uk/ And from its number looks like it should be a 0.068uF (68nF) rated at 250VAC (and I would suggest X or Y rated as it is across the mains http://www.audiocap.co.uk/paper-pme271m-53-c.asp have some similar but not 68nF However ebay item 370643508373 looks like the chappie HTH Avpx -- 'Things either exist or they don't,' said Jeremy. 'I am very clear about that. I have medicine.' (The Thief of Time) 17:05:01 up 3 days, 4:51, 6 users, load average: 0.45, 0.32, 0.33 |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:25:41 +0000, The Nomad wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:42:52 +0000, CB wrote: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr.../media/Public/ P1050230_zpsacaa2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation Suspect it is a 'filter' cap and seems to say PME271M568 which according to rifa is obsolete http://www.plccenter.co.uk/ And from its number looks like it should be a 0.068uF (68nF) rated at 250VAC (and I would suggest X or Y rated as it is across the mains http://www.audiocap.co.uk/paper-pme271m-53-c.asp have some similar but not 68nF However ebay item 370643508373 looks like the chappie HTH Avpx Bad form I know but ... A search of farnell for pme271M568 give 4 items that look to be what you need, & less expensive than ebay but there is likely a minimum order from Farnell. RS also stock them. Regards Avpx -- It was easy to be a vegetarian by day. It was preventing yourself from becoming a humanitarian at night that took the real effort. (Feet of Clay) 17:30:01 up 3 days, 5:16, 6 users, load average: 0.33, 0.35, 0.35 |
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On 22/12/2014 17:38, The Nomad wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:25:41 +0000, The Nomad wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:42:52 +0000, CB wrote: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr.../media/Public/ P1050230_zpsacaa2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation Suspect it is a 'filter' cap and seems to say PME271M568 which according to rifa is obsolete http://www.plccenter.co.uk/ And from its number looks like it should be a 0.068uF (68nF) rated at 250VAC (and I would suggest X or Y rated as it is across the mains http://www.audiocap.co.uk/paper-pme271m-53-c.asp have some similar but not 68nF However ebay item 370643508373 looks like the chappie HTH Avpx Bad form I know but ... A search of farnell for pme271M568 give 4 items that look to be what you need, & less expensive than ebay but there is likely a minimum order from Farnell. RS also stock them. Regards Avpx Thanks all for the rapid responses - and for the other responders advice that till I get a replacement it can run without - no one local to be bothered by AM interference. Regards. |
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CB wrote:
During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. That's an X-rated RF suppression capacitor, to prevent motor noise going back into the mains. Shouldn't imagine the value is desperately critical, especially since we don't know the inductance of the motor. The most important feature is that it's X-rated, so it will cope with being across the mains all the time. Pick one: http://www.rapidonline.com/electroni...s-x2-20-526016 (other suppliers are available...) Background: http://www.justradios.com/safetytips.html Theo |
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On 22/12/2014 16:42, CB wrote:
During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. It looks like an X2 suppression cap + resistor in a single package designed to be wired straight across the mains in. Plenty of similar beasties out there. Normally about 0.1 uF, although that one appears a little lower at about 0.07 uF (its not going to be that critical) http://www.datasheetarchive.com/dlma.../DSA-19649.pdf -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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CB writes: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Just cut it out for now. It's an RF supression capacitor, which will make listening to AM radio difficult whilst the mixer is running without it, but the mixer won't care. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:36:54 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Just cut it out for now. It's an RF supression capacitor, which will make listening to AM radio difficult whilst the mixer is running without it, but the mixer won't care. I encountered something like this on a high-end compound microscope. It had gone short-circuit and kept blowing fuses. Had some self-resonant frequency marked on it for some reason - not sure what on earth that would be necessary for. It only had a light, no motor(s). |
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cd wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:36:54 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Just cut it out for now. It's an RF supression capacitor, which will make listening to AM radio difficult whilst the mixer is running without it, but the mixer won't care. I encountered something like this on a high-end compound microscope. It had gone short-circuit and kept blowing fuses. Had some self-resonant frequency marked on it for some reason - not sure what on earth that would be necessary for. It only had a light, no motor(s). Guess you are not alone... http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=69128 Chris K |
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On 22/12/14 16:42, CB wrote:
During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation This may help http://vps.templar.co.uk/Fixing%20a%...f/bbc_0002.jpg a 0.47 and a 0.15 are the usuals. Search google groups for my thread on fixing a kenwood in UK DIY -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
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On 22/12/2014 17:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/12/14 16:42, CB wrote: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation This may help http://vps.templar.co.uk/Fixing%20a%...f/bbc_0002.jpg a 0.47 and a 0.15 are the usuals. Search google groups for my thread on fixing a kenwood in UK DIY Thank you - some interesting photos (even though my machine is not a chef). I'm fairly new to uk-diy but interested to note that threads degenerating into UNIX code and slanging matches is nothing new or unusual :-) |
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On 22/12/2014 18:28, CB wrote:
On 22/12/2014 17:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/12/14 16:42, CB wrote: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation This may help http://vps.templar.co.uk/Fixing%20a%...f/bbc_0002.jpg a 0.47 and a 0.15 are the usuals. Search google groups for my thread on fixing a kenwood in UK DIY Thank you - some interesting photos (even though my machine is not a chef). I'm fairly new to uk-diy but interested to note that threads degenerating into UNIX code and slanging matches is nothing new or unusual :-) A Christmas classic! Someone took exception to The Natural Philosopher uploading straight-out-of-camera to his _own_ web space. My mum's Chef is doing fine since the repair. |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:42:52 +0000, CB wrote:
Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. I've got a box full as they are used, and frequently fail, on old Farnell power supplies. Send me your details and I'll put one in the post for you. |
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On 22/12/2014 22:25, Peter Parry wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:42:52 +0000, CB wrote: Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. I've got a box full as they are used, and frequently fail, on old Farnell power supplies. Send me your details and I'll put one in the post for you. Thanks for the offer, but I picked one up today in Maplin. (yes I know but I was nearby, could buy only one and had no postal charges) |
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CB wrote:
During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation Although it will be dearer get one as a spare part from the manufacturers. |
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On 01/10/2015 01:39, F Murtz wrote:
CB wrote: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation Although it will be dearer get one as a spare part from the manufacturers. Wow, you do like to consistently dig up old posts! Dec 2104, about the same as the "letter box idea". |
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Fredxxx wrote:
On 01/10/2015 01:39, F Murtz wrote: CB wrote: During the preparation of yet another batch of mince pies my other half's trusty (30 odd year old) mixer let go with a very spectacular bang. Investigation shows a failed capacitor across the 240v/140W motor. a picture of the failed capacitor is here http://s1317.photobucket.com/user/dr...a2aac.jpg.html I am afraid that although I can read that it is a 240 V unit I cant see enough info (in numbers I can understand) to indicate how many mF. I have done a high res photo that will stand zooming in. Would somebody be kind enough to have a look and identify for me what sort of unit I should be looking for as a replacement. Thanks in anticipation Although it will be dearer get one as a spare part from the manufacturers. Wow, you do like to consistently dig up old posts! Dec 2104, about the same as the "letter box idea". What century are you living in? :-) -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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En el artículo , Fredxxx
escribió: Wow, you do like to consistently dig up old posts! Dec 2104, about the ^^^^ same as the "letter box idea". Your time machine also seems to be in good working order -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
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