Continuing to turn the old bathroom into daughters bedroom, extending
ringmain and installing backboxes yesterday.

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used
nowadays, plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh
re-inforcement in it. Just wondered when this was used?

Just out of interest, from the POV of the history of the house really.

I was also surprised not to find any sockets, or ring main cable hidden
away anywhere, as there was another room that was the first bathrooom
put in the house in the 1960's , and I assumed this room was a bedroom
at the time the current wiring was installed (late 1960's early '70's ?)
--
Chris French

On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20:37 PM UTC, Chris French wrote:

Continuing to turn the old bathroom into daughters bedroom, extending
ringmain and installing backboxes yesterday.

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used
nowadays, plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh
re-inforcement in it. Just wondered when this was used?

Just out of interest, from the POV of the history of the house really.

Maybe a pic on/for the wiki might gather additional readers


I was also surprised not to find any sockets, or ring main cable hidden
away anywhere, as there was another room that was the first bathrooom
put in the house in the 1960's , and I assumed this room was a bedroom
at the time the current wiring was installed (late 1960's early '70's ?)

Presumably the previous wiring was 30s at the latest, at which time it was normal not to have any socket provision in bedrooms


NT

On 17/11/2014 15:57, wrote:
On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20:37 PM UTC, Chris French wrote:

Continuing to turn the old bathroom into daughters bedroom, extending
ringmain and installing backboxes yesterday.

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used
nowadays, plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh
re-inforcement in it. Just wondered when this was used?

Just out of interest, from the POV of the history of the house really.

Maybe a pic on/for the wiki might gather additional readers


The first solid thermoplastic waste pipe (will remember the name after I
press enter) was bronze / tarnished copper coloured and, when sawn,
white "filaments" were stretched out at the cut looking somewhat like
fibre reinforcement.

In message ,
writes
On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20:37 PM UTC, Chris French wrote:

Continuing to turn the old bathroom into daughters bedroom, extending
ringmain and installing backboxes yesterday.

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used
nowadays, plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh
re-inforcement in it. Just wondered when this was used?

Just out of interest, from the POV of the history of the house really.

Maybe a pic on/for the wiki might gather additional readers


Good point, I'll have a go later.

I was also surprised not to find any sockets, or ring main cable hidden
away anywhere, as there was another room that was the first bathrooom
put in the house in the 1960's , and I assumed this room was a bedroom
at the time the current wiring was installed (late 1960's early '70's ?)

Presumably the previous wiring was 30s at the latest, at which time it
was normal not to have any socket provision in bedrooms


IIRC, there was no significant electricity in the house until the late
1960's. We have a copy of the sale particulars from 1966 and it might
have had a supply, but not really used much. Still very much as it was
in the 1920's - gas lighting, no bathrooms, coal range etc.

When we bought the house there were two bathrooms - one old one probably
dating from late '60's (bath was made in 1965) and not really used. A
second one used as both an ensuite and a house bathroom. We thought this
one was probably installed in the 1990's by the previous owner, but it
might be that it was installed earlier.
--
Chris French

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:12:16 +0000, Chris French wrote:

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used
nowadays, plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh
re-inforcement in it. Just wondered when this was used?

I think around the 70's. Found some here behind the old kitchen
units. It was in the way so attacked it with a hacksaw. ssssssss
water appears. Some one had used it as duct for the rising main...
Fortunately I knew where the outside stop cock is. 20 yards down the
road, in the verge, under 6" of grass roots and where my stop cock
key was as it's too deep to reach by hand.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In message ,
newshound writes
On 17/11/2014 15:57, wrote:
On Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20:37 PM UTC, Chris French wrote:

Continuing to turn the old bathroom into daughters bedroom, extending
ringmain and installing backboxes yesterday.

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used
nowadays, plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh
re-inforcement in it. Just wondered when this was used?

Just out of interest, from the POV of the history of the house really.

Maybe a pic on/for the wiki might gather additional readers


The first solid thermoplastic waste pipe (will remember the name after
I press enter) was bronze / tarnished copper coloured and, when sawn,
white "filaments" were stretched out at the cut looking somewhat like
fibre reinforcement.

Hmm, odd, I can see what you mean on the swan but the first bit I took
out I bent and split to out in the bin and it certainly seemed to have
mesh in it.

Anyway, this was the stuff:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/scrumb...72157648970040
511

I've since noticed the markings on a length of the pipe which says
Bartol and 11/74, presumably the production date, so that put's it in
the 1970's as Dave L suggests.

And no Mr Plumber (or who ever installed it)

Having a about 2m unsupported under the floor was not a good idea, it
sagged into a loop that held water and meant that the shower never
drained properly (the shower was diagonally across a 4m wide room from
the soil pipe)
--
Chris French

"Chris French" wrote in message
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Continuing to turn the old bathroom into daughters bedroom, extending
ringmain and installing backboxes yesterday.

Pulling out some old waste pipe, it was not like the stuff used nowadays,
plastic, copper coloured, with some sort of fibre/mesh re-inforcement in
it. Just wondered when this was used?

Just out of interest, from the POV of the history of the house really.

I was also surprised not to find any sockets, or ring main cable hidden
away anywhere, as there was another room that was the first bathrooom put
in the house in the 1960's , and I assumed this room was a bedroom at the
time the current wiring was installed (late 1960's early '70's ?)

I see this pipe quite regularly in old houses.

When plastic waste pipe was first used it was made copper coloured,
presumably because the waste pipes before plastic were made from copper.
Between 69 and 79 I'd say, certainly grey plastic was used in the 80's and
later, black, white and brown