The job is to weld containers made of 2.5mm steel. I cant work out which type of welder would be best to choose. Gasless wire is real easy to use compared to arc, but IIRC the wire isnt especially cheap, and a bead along all the edges plus more is going to eat a lot of wire. Given the limited time windows in which the jobs will be done, I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better. I've not welded in ages, but have used arc, oxy and gasless wire.


NT

On 11/11/14 17:42, wrote:
The job is to weld containers made of 2.5mm steel. I cant work out
which type of welder would be best to choose. Gasless wire is real
easy to use compared to arc, but IIRC the wire isnt especially cheap,
and a bead along all the edges plus more is going to eat a lot of
wire. Given the limited time windows in which the jobs will be done,
I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better.
I've not welded in ages, but have used arc, oxy and gasless wire.


NT


From my limited experience, CO2 with real gas is the way to go. And a
decent, even of "small" welder.

A LOT of money does not guarantee quality, but buying cheap junk will
almost certainly be frustrating in terms of poor (slipping, stuttering)
wire feed and poor current control.

Although a long way out of date, I loved my little Cebora I had in the
90's. IIRC it was similar to (or even) the Cebora Pocket Mig 130 Turbo:

http://www.gwe-ltd.com/www.gwe-ltd.c...p=2&cat=101887

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:16 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

The job is to weld containers made of 2.5mm steel. I cant work out which
type of welder would be best to choose. Gasless wire is real easy to use
compared to arc, but IIRC the wire isnt especially cheap, and a bead
along all the edges plus more is going to eat a lot of wire. Given the
limited time windows in which the jobs will be done, I suspect gasless
wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better. I've not welded in
ages, but have used arc, oxy and gasless wire.


NT

Sounds like a MiG job. Too thin for arc welding and oxy needs a contract.
I wouldn't waste my time with gasless MiG rods, though. Looks fuggin'
'orrible.

Yellow pages?

Jim K

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:16 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better.

Gasless MIG is _never_ the "way to go". Ever.

On 11/11/2014 18:09, Adrian wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:16 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better.

Gasless MIG is _never_ the "way to go". Ever.

If you need to mig in the wind, then it is...


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John Rumm wrote:
On 11/11/2014 18:09, Adrian wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:16 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better.

Gasless MIG is _never_ the "way to go". Ever.

If you need to mig in the wind, then it is...


Used extensively in shipbuilding,so much for the gainsayers.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:58:04 +0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
wrote:

Sounds like a MiG job. Too thin for arc welding and oxy needs a contract.
I wouldn't waste my time with gasless MiG rods, though. Looks fuggin'
'orrible.

Bull**** - use it right and it ain't really a problem.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:09:33 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:16 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better.

Gasless MIG is _never_ the "way to go". Ever.

Utter ********.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:41:52 +1100, F Murtz
wrote:

John Rumm wrote:
On 11/11/2014 18:09, Adrian wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 09:42:16 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

I suspect gasless wire is the way to go, unless someone knows better.

Gasless MIG is _never_ the "way to go". Ever.

If you need to mig in the wind, then it is...


Used extensively in shipbuilding,so much for the gainsayers.

****ing amateurs.

On Friday, November 21, 2014 10:18:53 PM UTC, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:58:04 +0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
wrote:

Sounds like a MiG job. Too thin for arc welding and oxy needs a contract.
I wouldn't waste my time with gasless MiG rods, though. Looks fuggin'
'orrible.

Bull**** - use it right and it ain't really a problem.

I thought I'd arc welded thinner than 2.5mm, but its been some while ago with arc. I didnt encounter any problem using gasless mig on cars, its so easy to use. But the wire isnt cheap, and I assume the amount of welding required would make it uneconomic.


NT