Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

If she would be content with an 8.3" tablet, I'd recommend the Tesco
Hudl2 @£129. I bought one about a few days ago and I am impressed.
it's 16GB but has a Micro SD slot for up to another 32GB, giving a total
of 48GB. It's cheap, it's fast and IMO is as good as Tablets costing
twice as much. I haven't seen a bad review yet.
I use the free Android TV Catchup app, the app seems to have all or most
of the Freeview progs. The name TV Catcup is strange, because it's
actually a Freeview app. Also I downloaded the BBC app iPlayer and the
BBC Media player.

On 27/10/2014 14:44, Bod wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

If she would be content with an 8.3" tablet, I'd recommend the Tesco
Hudl2 @£129. I bought one about a few days ago and I am impressed.
it's 16GB but has a Micro SD slot for up to another 32GB, giving a total
of 48GB. It's cheap, it's fast and IMO is as good as Tablets costing
twice as much. I haven't seen a bad review yet.
I use the free Android TV Catchup app, the app seems to have all or most
of the Freeview progs. The name TV Catcup is strange, because it's
actually a Freeview app. Also I downloaded the BBC app iPlayer and the
BBC Media player.


Not tried a Hudl but I like my Nexus 7 very much (price half way between
Hudl and iPad). Had a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 before that, but got fed up
with the bloatware and the fact that it wouldn't stream video reliably.

One of the decisions is between the 10 inch "group" and 7 inch "group".
I find the latter fine for "personal" viewing, the 10 inch is perhaps
better for two people looking at photos.

newshound wrote:

Not tried a Hudl

I've prodded one in the shop, seemed good for the price, apparently the
Tescoization is easy to remove if it annoys you

I like my Nexus 7 very much

My original N7 is showing its age a bit, quite surprised that it will be
receiving Lollipop next week

One of the decisions is between the 10 inch "group" and 7 inch "group".

Very soon the N9 will be out, and sit in the middle size-wise, I might
be tempted ...

On 27/10/2014 15:06, newshound wrote:
On 27/10/2014 14:44, Bod wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

If she would be content with an 8.3" tablet, I'd recommend the Tesco
Hudl2 @£129. I bought one about a few days ago and I am impressed.
it's 16GB but has a Micro SD slot for up to another 32GB, giving a total
of 48GB. It's cheap, it's fast and IMO is as good as Tablets costing
twice as much. I haven't seen a bad review yet.
I use the free Android TV Catchup app, the app seems to have all or most
of the Freeview progs. The name TV Catcup is strange, because it's
actually a Freeview app. Also I downloaded the BBC app iPlayer and the
BBC Media player.


Not tried a Hudl but I like my Nexus 7 very much (price half way between
Hudl and iPad). Had a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 before that, but got fed up
with the bloatware and the fact that it wouldn't stream video reliably.

One of the decisions is between the 10 inch "group" and 7 inch "group".
I find the latter fine for "personal" viewing, the 10 inch is perhaps
better for two people looking at photos.

Well, my previous Tablet is/ was a 7", the Hudl2 screen size of 8.3"
feels like it is much bigger than it's actual size. That extra inch or
so makes a heck of a difference. I think I'd find a 10" a bit unwieldy
for using on my lap.

In article ,
newshound wrote:
On 27/10/2014 14:44, Bod wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

If she would be content with an 8.3" tablet, I'd recommend the Tesco
Hudl2 @£129. I bought one about a few days ago and I am impressed.
it's 16GB but has a Micro SD slot for up to another 32GB, giving a total
of 48GB. It's cheap, it's fast and IMO is as good as Tablets costing
twice as much. I haven't seen a bad review yet.
I use the free Android TV Catchup app, the app seems to have all or most
of the Freeview progs. The name TV Catcup is strange, because it's
actually a Freeview app. Also I downloaded the BBC app iPlayer and the
BBC Media player.


Not tried a Hudl but I like my Nexus 7 very much (price half way between
Hudl and iPad). Had a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 before that, but got fed up
with the bloatware and the fact that it wouldn't stream video reliably.

One of the decisions is between the 10 inch "group" and 7 inch "group".
I find the latter fine for "personal" viewing, the 10 inch is perhaps
better for two people looking at photos.

also, since a great deal the battery life is taken up by the display, a 10"
machine will probably have a shorter endurance than a 7" one.

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From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On 27/10/2014 15:16, charles wrote:

also, since a great deal the battery life is taken up by the display, a 10"
machine will probably have a shorter endurance than a 7" one.

Depends if they use the larger case to put a larger battery in.

On 27/10/2014 15:06, newshound wrote:

One of the decisions is between the 10 inch "group" and 7 inch "group".
I find the latter fine for "personal" viewing, the 10 inch is perhaps
better for two people looking at photos.

or when your eyesight is not as good as it used to be. :-)

Some time ago my Wife got a Hudl (with Tesco points) then I decided I
would also like a tablet. Looked at the Hudl but decided the screen was
a bit too small for easy viewing so bought the Nexus 10. Both tablets
are Android and both do all we want and perform well. Would recommend
either (and the smaller Nexus).


--

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e-mail use reply to field

What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you can make
people believe has happened. [Janet Daley 27/8/2003]

On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?

Pre IOS 8, maybe Although turning off some of the new "features"
seems to have taken my iPad back to nearly the same level of what it was
like before...

Must get around to having a play with a Hudl2, as least it's got a
reasonable screen which was my biggest complaint with the otherwise
competent Android tablet I also have.

On 27/10/2014 14:53, Lee wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?

Pre IOS 8, maybe Although turning off some of the new "features"
seems to have taken my iPad back to nearly the same level of what it was
like before...

Must get around to having a play with a Hudl2, as least it's got a
reasonable screen which was my biggest complaint with the otherwise
competent Android tablet I also have.

I can confirm, the screen is excellent. Great Tablet and a steal @ £129

nb; NO, I don't work for Tescos.....thankfully :-)

On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

Are you a Which? subscriber - or do you have any friends who are? In
yesterday's update email they included an item in which they compared a
Tesco Hudl2 (£129) with an iPad Mini (£239). They both came out with
almost identical test scores, and the summary said:

"These are both great mini tablets, but the Hudl has a slightly larger
screen. As the cheaper of these models, it’s a fantastic choice for
those on a budget to carry out everyday tasks. However, its battery life
could be better, so the iPad mini with Retina display could be the
option for those constantly on the move."

You pays yer money . . .

The iPad will be more solidly made and will have a higher screen
resolution, but the Hudl is a perfectly adequate device. My wife's got
an iPad Mini (not the latest model) and I've got a Nexus 10 (Android)
tablet. It may be a personal thing, but I'm not an Apple fan - and I
find Android systems far more intuitive to use than anything which Apple
produces.
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thescullster has brought this to us :
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review material,
but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on the
following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb version
sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple programs from
iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering that
makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

If I can sort of jump on this thread too....

I'm wanting recommendations for a 10" tablet (definitely NOT any Apple
variety - Android is my thing) of up to about 350 quid.

I'll be working in Germany/Czech Republic for about three months and as
much as I like my beer, I won't want to be out every night, so one use
is possibly watching english TV either via the hotel wifi and a VPN
back to the UK or pre-downloaded films/programmes on SD card so an SD
card slot is a must.

Another use is that I'll have to Skype the missus on a regular basis
too, so a tablet that's good for watching TV/Films and good at Skyping
is needed.

Can tablets incorporate SIM cards? It would be a definite bonus if I
could use it as a phone/access the cellular phone network when back
here in the UK.

I've heard that Samsung are decent but something called Kies makes them
****e - is that true? And finally, I have about 350 quid to spend but
if all that will cost more brand new then I don't mind buying a decent
one secondhand.



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On 27/10/2014 17:40, Dave Preston wrote:

If I can sort of jump on this thread too....

I can answer a couple of bits of this:

Can tablets incorporate SIM cards? It would be a definite bonus if I
could use it as a phone/access the cellular phone network when back here
in the UK.

A few certainly do. My old GoClever 7" tab does - hence you can use it
for turn by turn GPS apps without downloading the whole map etc. You can
also make calls with it (although its a bit big and clumsy for the purpose!)

I've heard that Samsung are decent but something called Kies makes them
****e - is that true?

IIUC Kies is just a suite of software for the PC to do various things
with the samsung phones / tabs. You can ignore it anyway since the phone
/ tab will know how to pretend to be a mass storage device and look like
an external hard drive.



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John Rumm expressed precisely :
On 27/10/2014 17:40, Dave Preston wrote:

If I can sort of jump on this thread too....

I can answer a couple of bits of this:

Can tablets incorporate SIM cards? It would be a definite bonus if I
could use it as a phone/access the cellular phone network when back here
in the UK.

A few certainly do. My old GoClever 7" tab does - hence you can use it for
turn by turn GPS apps without downloading the whole map etc. You can also
make calls with it (although its a bit big and clumsy for the purpose!)

I've heard that Samsung are decent but something called Kies makes them
****e - is that true?

IIUC Kies is just a suite of software for the PC to do various things with
the samsung phones / tabs. You can ignore it anyway since the phone / tab
will know how to pretend to be a mass storage device and look like an
external hard drive.

Thanks John



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thescullster has brought this to us :
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

If I can sort of jump on this thread too....

I'm wanting recommendations for a 10" tablet (definitely NOT any Apple
variety - Android is my thing) of up to about 350 quid.

I'll be working in Germany/Czech Republic for about three months and as
much as I like my beer, I won't want to be out every night, so one use is
possibly watching english TV either via the hotel wifi and a VPN back to
the UK or pre-downloaded films/programmes on SD card so an SD card slot is
a must.

Another use is that I'll have to Skype the missus on a regular basis too,
so a tablet that's good for watching TV/Films and good at Skyping is
needed.

Can tablets incorporate SIM cards?

Yes, some can.

It would be a definite bonus if I could use it as a phone/access the
cellular phone network when back here in the UK.

Yeah, I regret not getting one that can do that.

Don't need to do it that often but it would be handy at times.

I've heard that Samsung are decent

Yes they are.

but something called Kies makes them ****e - is that true?

No. Yes, Kies is ****, but you don't have to use that.

And finally, I have about 350 quid to spend but if all that will cost more
brand new then I don't mind buying a decent one secondhand.

On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.


No doubt the Hudl2 and the iPad are great but when t'other half and I decided to dip our toes in the tablet market, we bought a recon Nook HD from Morgan Computers on eBay for £80. That decision was based on the screen size and resolution, good reviews, the likelihood that there would be some form of online user base for support (which wouldn't necessarily be the case with generic cheap tablets) and the fact that 80 quid wasted wasn't as bad as the price of an iPad wasted.

Five months later we have one each and SWMBO often uses it in preference to the desktop.

I'd considered installing CyanogenMod but B&N's own version of Android seems fine.

thescullster wrote

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing,
is the 16Gb version sufficient (the TV viewing involves
downloading of multiple programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of
the Apple offering that makes it worth 3 x the price
of the Humbl (bit subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.

Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

On 27/10/2014 20:33, Rod Speed wrote:
thescullster wrote
Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.
Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple
offering that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit
subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.
Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

What "marked difference" would that be?

Bod wrote
Rod Speed wrote
thescullster wrote

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she
means a tablet, not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can
anyone enlighten me on the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of
the Apple offering that makes it worth 3 x the price
of the Humbl (bit subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.

Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

What "marked difference" would that be?

The quality of the hardware, particularly with the screen
when there is a 3 times difference in price and with the
availability of updates to the OS as well.

On 28/10/2014 08:25, Rod Speed wrote:
Bod wrote
Rod Speed wrote
thescullster wrote

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me
on the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple
offering that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit
subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.

Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

What "marked difference" would that be?

The quality of the hardware, particularly with the screen
when there is a 3 times difference in price and with the
availability of updates to the OS as well.

Well the full HD screen on the Hudl2 looks excellent to me.

Bod wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Bod wrote
Rod Speed wrote
thescullster wrote

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me
on the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple
offering that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit
subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.

Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

What "marked difference" would that be?

The quality of the hardware, particularly with the screen
when there is a 3 times difference in price and with the
availability of updates to the OS as well.

Well the full HD screen on the Hudl2 looks excellent to me.

Sure, but its not one of the cheapest tablets.

On 28/10/2014 08:25, Rod Speed wrote:
Bod wrote
Rod Speed wrote
thescullster wrote

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me
on the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple
offering that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit
subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.

Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

What "marked difference" would that be?

The quality of the hardware, particularly with the screen
when there is a 3 times difference in price and with the
availability of updates to the OS as well.


But the updates are part of the Apple plan to make you spend more.
They quietly drop support for older devices on the grounds that your
user experience would suffer. The reality being that the new updates run
fine on the older stuff (people have hacked it to demonstrate this) and
its just greed.

Windows on the other hand has actually been getting faster and more
usable on old stuff as M$ have been optimising stuff.

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On 28/10/2014 08:25, Rod Speed wrote:
Bod wrote
Rod Speed wrote
thescullster wrote

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me
on the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Yes.

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple
offering that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit
subjective this one maybe)?

Yes there is a marked difference.

Whether its worth the triple price tho is harder to say.

What "marked difference" would that be?

The quality of the hardware, particularly with the screen
when there is a 3 times difference in price and with the
availability of updates to the OS as well.

But the updates are part of the Apple plan to make you spend more.

Bull****.

They quietly drop support for older devices on the grounds that your user
experience would suffer.

And they are right, it does.

The reality being that the new updates run fine on the older stuff

Bull****. Plenty do find that they don’t like the result on
the older stuff that is supported by the latest OS releases.

(people have hacked it to demonstrate this)

Bull****.

and its just greed.

Bull****.

Windows on the other hand has actually been getting faster and more usable
on old stuff as M$ have been optimising stuff.

Very different cpus involved.

On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?


If it helps I bought SWMBO a Hudl - Tesco direct sell them for £59 on
theist eBay store ... fully guaranteed.
Or you can pay more and get the new Hudl 2 in store.
Sold as refurb ... but most are unused .... the wife's was totally new
.... not even a fingerprint on it.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tesco-Hudl.../400761422518?


Apple is way overpriced IMHO ... I don't own any Apple devices
personally (one buisness unit)

The Hudl was ideal it uses same Android as my phone & daughters ... so
it was easy to set up and answer the loads of "how do i do ..." Q's that
came.

She loves the device .. and uses it frequently for streaming BT sports
.... so certainly works well on that.
Does all her on-line work using it, emails etc. .... very good product
very good value.

Bought a folding case an USB keyboard .. all fits neatly in same case.

On 27/10/2014 21:49, rick wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a
tablet, not necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me
on the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the
16Gb version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of
multiple programs from iPlayer)?


If it helps I bought SWMBO a Hudl - Tesco direct sell them for £59 on
theist eBay store ... fully guaranteed. Or you can pay more and get
the new Hudl 2 in store. Sold as refurb ... but most are unused ....
the wife's was totally new ... not even a fingerprint on it.



If you want an independent review ... how about a review from The
Independent ... (Hudl 2)

http://tinyurl.com/nblg3c4

On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...

you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain

On 27/10/2014 22:45, wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...

you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain

That was not part of my original requirement so took no noitce when
buying. But later tried it - it is a lot easier to use iPlayer on my
Nexus 7 (second version) than the version on Virginmedia or built-in to
the television.

That required an extra bit: VicTsing Slimport MyDP Micro USB to HDMI HDTV

--
Rod

On 27/10/2014 22:45, wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...

you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain

The Hudl2 has got an HDMI output for that.

In message , Bod
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On 27/10/2014 22:45, wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...

you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger
screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain

The Hudl2 has got an HDMI output for that.

Though if ~I was doing it much I'd by a Chromecast and then do it
wirelessly (We have a smart TV and HTPC, so don't bother with any of it)

--
Chris French

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:45:11 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...


you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger
screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.


Owain

I use an Asus TF101 with 10 inch screen. It has HDMI for when using I
player but doesn't have a USB port. I believe the latest Asus
offering has USB. I love it. No problems whatsoever.
Lawrence

On 28/10/2014 08:44, Lawrence wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:45:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...


you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger
screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain

I use an Asus TF101 with 10 inch screen. It has HDMI for when using I
player but doesn't have a USB port. I believe the latest Asus offering
has USB. I love it. No problems whatsoever.
Lawrence

The Hudl2 has got a mini HDMI and a mini USB socket.
The only fault I can find, is the battery doesn't last as long as it
could, but that's not a problem if it's only used at home and near a
mains socket.

On 27/10/2014 22:45, wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...

you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain


Yes, indeed. The Hudl2 appears to have an HDMI output port which would
enable you to do that, with a suitable cable. It's a feature which I use
quite a lot on my Nexus 10 tablet.
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Roger
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On 28/10/2014 14:04, Roger Mills wrote:
On 27/10/2014 22:45, wrote:
On Monday, October 27, 2014 1:43:23 PM UTC, thescullster wrote:
If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing ...

you might wish to consider one with an output to a larger
screen/monitor if required for TV viewing.

Owain


Yes, indeed. The Hudl2 appears to have an HDMI output port which would
enable you to do that, with a suitable cable. It's a feature which I use
quite a lot on my Nexus 10 tablet.

I can confirm that it does indeed have a mini HDMI socket.

On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

It's really just like any other such purchase: The important thing is
to decide what you want it for, then choose the most appropriate device.
If it does anything you didn't need when you bought it, but you find
useful, then so much the better.
I was looking at tablets for quite some time as what I wanted was a
touch screen device to run presentations from. I didn't like the Apple
range because of the constraints on memory, file transfer, etc. but I
found it hard to identify an alternative that could be hooked straight
up to a projector. Then Apple brought the new range out and the
original Air came down by the best part of 100 smackers so I jumped in.
The build qulaity is very good and it's very responsive. The display
is defintely a cut above some cheaper ones (though plenty of
alternatives match or exceed it) and it seems to have plenty of memory
at 32 GB. It's not really that difficult to transfer files either.
SWMBO has a mini and I wondered if I should get that instead but I'm
glad I got the larger screen size, although a lot of apps don't make
good use of it. Certainly, my laptop doesn't get as much use as it did
(though I have yet to find a usenet app).
I do, however, recognise that most people don't need to have video
output and the display definition isn't always necessary, so set against
the cost differences, there are likely many alternatives that could do
the job admirably.
It's a bit like buying power tools: The trick is not to buy something
that's good enough to show that you need one, but too cheap to have the
features you really need, so you wind up buying an expensive one after
all, and spending more cash than if you had gone straight for it!

GMM wrote:

The important thing is to decide what you want it for, then choose
the most appropriate device.

Yeah, but you'll end-up using whatever you bought for all manner of
other things you didn't consider before buying ...

In article ,
Andy Burns wrote:
GMM wrote:

The important thing is to decide what you want it for, then choose
the most appropriate device.

Yeah, but you'll end-up using whatever you bought for all manner of
other things you didn't consider before buying ...

indeed. It didn't take me long to discover that the first 'tablet' I
bought was very limited in facilities. I now have a Nexus 7.

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From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On 27/10/2014 22:54, GMM wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

It's really just like any other such purchase: The important thing is
to decide what you want it for, then choose the most appropriate device.
If it does anything you didn't need when you bought it, but you find
useful, then so much the better.
I was looking at tablets for quite some time as what I wanted was a
touch screen device to run presentations from. I didn't like the Apple
range because of the constraints on memory, file transfer, etc. but I
found it hard to identify an alternative that could be hooked straight
up to a projector.

Nearly all android tablets will connect to a projector over HDMI, they
have for years. I can even do so from my phone and could from my old
phone (~4 years old).
Of course a decent projector will work over Wi-Fi these days.


Then Apple brought the new range out

Well they had to, apple are playing catchup these days, they have been
for a couple of years now as they copy features from others.

"Dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 27/10/2014 22:54, GMM wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet, not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

It's really just like any other such purchase: The important thing is
to decide what you want it for, then choose the most appropriate device.
If it does anything you didn't need when you bought it, but you find
useful, then so much the better.
I was looking at tablets for quite some time as what I wanted was a
touch screen device to run presentations from. I didn't like the Apple
range because of the constraints on memory, file transfer, etc. but I
found it hard to identify an alternative that could be hooked straight
up to a projector.

Nearly all android tablets will connect to a projector over HDMI, they
have for years. I can even do so from my phone and could from my old phone
(~4 years old).
Of course a decent projector will work over Wi-Fi these days.


Then Apple brought the new range out

Well they had to, apple are playing catchup these days,

Bull**** they are with the fingerprint sensor and Apple Pay and their
cameras.

they have been for a couple of years now as they copy features from
others.

Bull****.

On 28/10/2014 09:50, Rod Speed wrote:


"Dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 27/10/2014 22:54, GMM wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

It's really just like any other such purchase: The important thing is
to decide what you want it for, then choose the most appropriate device.
If it does anything you didn't need when you bought it, but you find
useful, then so much the better.
I was looking at tablets for quite some time as what I wanted was a
touch screen device to run presentations from. I didn't like the Apple
range because of the constraints on memory, file transfer, etc. but I
found it hard to identify an alternative that could be hooked straight
up to a projector.

Nearly all android tablets will connect to a projector over HDMI, they
have for years. I can even do so from my phone and could from my old
phone (~4 years old).
Of course a decent projector will work over Wi-Fi these days.


Then Apple brought the new range out

Well they had to, apple are playing catchup these days,

Bull**** they are with the fingerprint sensor and Apple Pay and their
cameras.

they have been for a couple of years now as they copy features from
others.

Bull****.

He's correct.

"Bod" wrote in message
...
On 28/10/2014 09:50, Rod Speed wrote:


"Dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 27/10/2014 22:54, GMM wrote:
On 27/10/2014 13:43, thescullster wrote:
Hi all

Yes I know I can google this subject and get all manner of review
material, but knowing the expansive knowledgebase here....

Er indoors is after an "iPad". By this I'm sure she means a tablet,
not
necessarily Apple's variety.

As I have only seen these things from afar, can anyone enlighten me on
the following please:

If the device is used for email and on-line TV viewing, is the 16Gb
version sufficient (the TV viewing involves downloading of multiple
programs from iPlayer)?

Is there a marked difference in quality/stability of the Apple
offering
that makes it worth 3 x the price of the Humbl (bit subjective this
one
maybe)?


Thanks

Phil

It's really just like any other such purchase: The important thing is
to decide what you want it for, then choose the most appropriate
device.
If it does anything you didn't need when you bought it, but you find
useful, then so much the better.
I was looking at tablets for quite some time as what I wanted was a
touch screen device to run presentations from. I didn't like the Apple
range because of the constraints on memory, file transfer, etc. but I
found it hard to identify an alternative that could be hooked straight
up to a projector.

Nearly all android tablets will connect to a projector over HDMI, they
have for years. I can even do so from my phone and could from my old
phone (~4 years old).
Of course a decent projector will work over Wi-Fi these days.


Then Apple brought the new range out

Well they had to, apple are playing catchup these days,

Bull**** they are with the fingerprint sensor and Apple Pay and their
cameras.

they have been for a couple of years now as they copy features from
others.

Bull****.

He's correct.

Nope, he hasn’t got a ****ing clue most obviously
with the fingerprint sensor, the cameras and Apple Pay.