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Whilst on the subject of Plumbing
In my friends house all taps leave behind a green/blue residue overnight
if one of the kids or a visitor fails to turn the taps off completely. (The taps "will" turn off properly but have "fashionable" small smooth handles so a good grip is required to make sure there are no drips.) All the plumbing system is High pressure with no loft storage tank and the stain comes from both hot and cold taps. See photo http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/...pse77d5bd6.jpg It is a hard water area with one of these disposable cartridge conditioners (similar to but not exactly this) http://www.tradingdepot.co.uk/DEF/pr...fDKxoCFUDw_wcB fitted in the rising main near the stop cock. My house is less than 400 yards away so I assume it has the same water supply, it does not suffer this problem, but I do have a low pressure feed to all except the kitchen sink. Is this anything more than a minor irritant or is something seriously wrong. -- Chris |
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Whilst on the subject of Plumbing
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In my friends house all taps leave behind a green/blue residue overnight if one of the kids or a visitor fails to turn the taps off completely. (The taps "will" turn off properly but have "fashionable" small smooth handles so a good grip is required to make sure there are no drips.) All the plumbing system is High pressure with no loft storage tank and the stain comes from both hot and cold taps. See photo http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/...pse77d5bd6.jpg It is a hard water area with one of these disposable cartridge conditioners (similar to but not exactly this) http://www.tradingdepot.co.uk/DEF/pr...fDKxoCFUDw_wcB fitted in the rising main near the stop cock. My house is less than 400 yards away so I assume it has the same water supply, it does not suffer this problem, but I do have a low pressure feed to all except the kitchen sink. Is this anything more than a minor irritant or is something seriously wrong. Green stains are associated with copper and nickel compounds (remember your basic inorganic chemistry from school?) I suspect the hard water (or aggressive cleaning agents) has taken off some of the chrome from the taps (inside maybe) and the staining is coming from there. Maybe your taps are newer or the lower pressure and correct use turning off fully means that you don't see this (yet!) Also being close does not mean you have water from the same treatment works. In the town where I live there are two water sources and somewhere near neighbours are bound to be on different supplies. |
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Whilst on the subject of Plumbing
"news" wrote in message ... In my friends house all taps leave behind a green/blue residue overnight if one of the kids or a visitor fails to turn the taps off completely. (The taps "will" turn off properly but have "fashionable" small smooth handles so a good grip is required to make sure there are no drips.) All the plumbing system is High pressure with no loft storage tank and the stain comes from both hot and cold taps. See photo http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/...pse77d5bd6.jpg It is a hard water area with one of these disposable cartridge conditioners (similar to but not exactly this) http://www.tradingdepot.co.uk/DEF/pr...fDKxoCFUDw_wcB fitted in the rising main near the stop cock. My house is less than 400 yards away so I assume it has the same water supply, it does not suffer this problem, but I do have a low pressure feed to all except the kitchen sink. Is this anything more than a minor irritant or is something seriously wrong. Dissolved CO2, SO2 and even H2S in the water attacks the copper pipes forming copper carbonate, copper sulphate etc. This gives the green stains. (Like outdoor copper roofs.) Common in water from wells, springs and boreoles. I had a spring at my last house. Rotted away the copper pipe like fun. Plastic pipe was the only answer. (Plus an open tank) The copper salts are slightly poisonous, you should run off the overnight standing water before drinking every morning. Eg flush the toilet. Open water tanks give the dissolved gasses chance to escape. Water softeners sometimes release CO2 into the water so your cartridge may be contributing to the problem/ CO2 is also released into the water as limescale is formed. |
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Whilst on the subject of Plumbing
On 18/07/2014 17:21, harryagain wrote:
"news" wrote in message ... In my friends house all taps leave behind a green/blue residue overnight if one of the kids or a visitor fails to turn the taps off completely. (The taps "will" turn off properly but have "fashionable" small smooth handles so a good grip is required to make sure there are no drips.) All the plumbing system is High pressure with no loft storage tank and the stain comes from both hot and cold taps. See photo http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/...pse77d5bd6.jpg It is a hard water area with one of these disposable cartridge conditioners (similar to but not exactly this) http://www.tradingdepot.co.uk/DEF/pr...fDKxoCFUDw_wcB fitted in the rising main near the stop cock. My house is less than 400 yards away so I assume it has the same water supply, it does not suffer this problem, but I do have a low pressure feed to all except the kitchen sink. Is this anything more than a minor irritant or is something seriously wrong. Dissolved CO2, SO2 and even H2S in the water attacks the copper pipes forming copper carbonate, copper sulphate etc. This gives the green stains. (Like outdoor copper roofs.) Common in water from wells, springs and boreoles. I had a spring at my last house. Rotted away the copper pipe like fun. Plastic pipe was the only answer. (Plus an open tank) The copper salts are slightly poisonous, you should run off the overnight standing water before drinking every morning. Eg flush the toilet. Open water tanks give the dissolved gasses chance to escape. Water softeners sometimes release CO2 into the water so your cartridge may be contributing to the problem/ CO2 is also released into the water as limescale is formed. Thanks to both for the responses. -- Chris |
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Whilst on the subject of Plumbing
On 18/07/2014 12:23, news wrote:
In my friends house all taps leave behind a green/blue residue overnight if one of the kids or a visitor fails to turn the taps off completely. (The taps "will" turn off properly but have "fashionable" small smooth handles so a good grip is required to make sure there are no drips.) All the plumbing system is High pressure with no loft storage tank and the stain comes from both hot and cold taps. See photo http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/...pse77d5bd6.jpg That looks like a classic case of aggressive water reacting with copper components of the system. A common problem with private supplies, but less common with public ones. Some private supply users even need to go so far as to have ph balancing systems to does the incoming water into an acceptable range. Is this anything more than a minor irritant or is something seriously wrong. Might be worth consulting with the local water supplier and explaining what is happening. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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