Son in law found these without USB in a twin wall socket whilst on
holiday.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HJ3N5D0?psc=1

Anybody seen a UK offering?

On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?

I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.

Owain

In article ,
wrote:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?

I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible
to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.

The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
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In article ,
wrote:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?

I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible
to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.

The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.


So it would need a fused radial circuit for it - or to be fed from a fused
spur with a 10amp fuse. Swopping a 13 amp socket with its 30amp rated
circuit would be dangerous unless it has an internal fuse.

On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:56:37 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article 2,
DerbyBorn wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
:

In article ,
wrote:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?

I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible
to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.

The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.

So it would need a fused radial circuit for it - or to be fed from a fused
spur with a 10amp fuse. Swopping a 13 amp socket with its 30amp rated
circuit would be dangerous unless it has an internal fuse.

You'll note also that it is capable of having a US plug put in it.
Which might surprise any Septic who actually did so.

You mean when it turns their 110v hair dryer into a passable flame
thrower?



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Tim Streater wrote:
In article 2,
DerbyBorn wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
:

In article ,
wrote:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?
I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be
possible
to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.
The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.

So it would need a fused radial circuit for it - or to be fed from a
fused spur with a 10amp fuse. Swopping a 13 amp socket with its 30amp
rated circuit would be dangerous unless it has an internal fuse.

You'll note also that it is capable of having a US plug put in it.
Which might surprise any Septic who actually did so.

Loads of those two pin devices are dual voltage now

Capitol wrote:
Son in law found these without USB in a twin wall socket whilst on holiday.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HJ3N5D0?psc=1

Anybody seen a UK offering?

More detail here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-DSX-056-...3D251410207551

In article om,
F Murtz wrote:
You'll note also that it is capable of having a US plug put in it.
Which might surprise any Septic who actually did so.

Loads of those two pin devices are dual voltage now

That would be quite a trick on a device sold for 8 quid which claims to be
10 amp. And shares the same connectors for all types of plug.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article om,
F Murtz wrote:
You'll note also that it is capable of having a US plug put in it.
Which might surprise any Septic who actually did so.

Loads of those two pin devices are dual voltage now

That would be quite a trick on a device sold for 8 quid which claims to be
10 amp. And shares the same connectors for all types of plug.

I mean the things you plug in em.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?

I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible
to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.

The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.

I'd be surprised if they can do 10A. The 'contacts' are usually a couple of
strips of brass, which have to make contact with all the various sorts of plug
you might insert. They gradually lose their spring, so you get intermittent
connections. Not only do you get into wiggle-until-it-makes-contact
territory (something that really irritates me about two-pin US/EU plugs)
they risk getting hot because the contact isn't good enough to deliver the
current draw without signficant resistance. Also, many of these aren't
shuttered.

I've used them on cheap Chinese-made power strips that seem to be flooding
the developing world, and they're really terrible. Avoid.

Theo

Theo Markettos wrote:
"Dave Plowman wrote:
In ,
wrote:
On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Anybody seen a UK offering?

I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible
to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.

The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.

I'd be surprised if they can do 10A. The 'contacts' are usually a couple of
strips of brass, which have to make contact with all the various sorts of plug
you might insert. They gradually lose their spring, so you get intermittent
connections. Not only do you get into wiggle-until-it-makes-contact
territory (something that really irritates me about two-pin US/EU plugs)
they risk getting hot because the contact isn't good enough to deliver the
current draw without signficant resistance. Also, many of these aren't
shuttered.

I've used them on cheap Chinese-made power strips that seem to be flooding
the developing world, and they're really terrible. Avoid.

Theo


They're claiming CE approval FWIW!

On Friday, July 18, 2014 3:16:01 PM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Theo Markettos wrote:

"Dave Plowman wrote:

In ,

wrote:

On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:

Anybody seen a UK offering?



I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible

to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.



The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.



I'd be surprised if they can do 10A. The 'contacts' are usually a couple of

strips of brass, which have to make contact with all the various sorts of plug

you might insert. They gradually lose their spring, so you get intermittent

connections. Not only do you get into wiggle-until-it-makes-contact

territory (something that really irritates me about two-pin US/EU plugs)

they risk getting hot because the contact isn't good enough to deliver the

current draw without signficant resistance. Also, many of these aren't

shuttered.



I've used them on cheap Chinese-made power strips that seem to be flooding

the developing world, and they're really terrible. Avoid.



Theo





They're claiming CE approval FWIW!

I'd take a look at http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org...ocket-outlets/ the tests show they are somewhat lacking

Martin

On 18/07/2014 15:16, Capitol wrote:



They're claiming CE approval FWIW!

CE as in Communité Européenne, or CE as in China Export? The marks are
deliberately (On the Chinese end of it, anyway) very similar to the
untutored eye.

http://siloscordoba.com/wp-content/u...ina-Export.jpg

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Martin Warby wrote:
On Friday, July 18, 2014 3:16:01 PM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:
Theo Markettos wrote:

"Dave Plowman wrote:

In ,

wrote:

On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:40:01 AM UTC+1, Capitol wrote:

Anybody seen a UK offering?



I suspect not legally, as I doubt very much whether it would be possible

to make such a socket which was also BS1363 compliant.



The one shown isn't, as it is only rated at 10 amps.



I'd be surprised if they can do 10A. The 'contacts' are usually a couple of

strips of brass, which have to make contact with all the various sorts of plug

you might insert. They gradually lose their spring, so you get intermittent

connections. Not only do you get into wiggle-until-it-makes-contact

territory (something that really irritates me about two-pin US/EU plugs)

they risk getting hot because the contact isn't good enough to deliver the

current draw without signficant resistance. Also, many of these aren't

shuttered.



I've used them on cheap Chinese-made power strips that seem to be flooding

the developing world, and they're really terrible. Avoid.



Theo





They're claiming CE approval FWIW!

I'd take a look at http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org...ocket-outlets/ the tests show they are somewhat lacking

Martin

That's a very good report. However, I suspect that many 13A fused
adapters used with 13A sockets will also fail. I've seen laptop psus
which fail to engage in some adapters because of a screen surround
around the 2/3 pin US outlet and to use them you have to cut the screen off.

John Williamson wrote:
CE as in Communité Européenne, or CE as in China Export? The marks are
deliberately (On the Chinese end of it, anyway) very similar to the
untutored eye.

http://siloscordoba.com/wp-content/u...ina-Export.jpg

I thought that was a myth. Anyone can self-certify Communite Europeenne
compliance, unless you're in a specific field when you need external
certification from a Notified Body (Underwriters Labs, SGS, etc - eg for
medical devices) when the Body's number is displayed underneath.

In some cases self-certification makes sense: toys without toxic paint or
small/sharp parts don't exactly need a visit to a test lab.

But obviously there are many cases where self-certification is pushed too
far...

Theo