SWMBO wants to put a ceiling fan in the conservatory ... one option
would be to connect feed from the existing light ...

As it would still need existing light to work ... would therefore need a
pull switch with a changeover switch ...
posn 1 fan only
posn 2 light + fan


Wall switch would provide overall on/off

The fan will have its own remote control so that allows 3rd option of
lights only.

Can you get a pull cord change over switch.?

Would be very difficult to get at wiring other than using existing feed.


I know you can get fans with lights ... but that is not what she wants.



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On 13/07/14 22:44, Rick Hughes wrote:
SWMBO wants to put a ceiling fan in the conservatory ... one option
would be to connect feed from the existing light ...

As it would still need existing light to work ... would therefore need a
pull switch with a changeover switch ...
posn 1 fan only
posn 2 light + fan


Wall switch would provide overall on/off

The fan will have its own remote control so that allows 3rd option of
lights only.

Can you get a pull cord change over switch.?



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

Rick Hughes wrote:
SWMBO wants to put a ceiling fan in the conservatory ... one option
would be to connect feed from the existing light ...

As it would still need existing light to work ... would therefore need a
pull switch with a changeover switch ...
posn 1 fan only
posn 2 light + fan

Could you have it as
posn 1 light only
posn 2 light + fan
Then if the new switch was in the circuit after the existing switch and
controlled the fan, it would just need to be an on/off switch.

Wall switch would provide overall on/off

The fan will have its own remote control so that allows 3rd option of
lights only.

Bill

On 13/07/2014 22:55, Tim Watts wrote:
On 13/07/14 22:44, Rick Hughes wrote:
SWMBO wants to put a ceiling fan in the conservatory ... one option
would be to connect feed from the existing light ...

As it would still need existing light to work ... would therefore need a
pull switch with a changeover switch ...
posn 1 fan only
posn 2 light + fan


Wall switch would provide overall on/off

The fan will have its own remote control so that allows 3rd option of
lights only.

Can you get a pull cord change over switch.?



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

+1

We used to have one over the bed in our bedroom to provide 2-way
switching in conjunction with a wall switch.
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On 14/07/2014 11:11, Roger Mills wrote:
On 13/07/2014 22:55, Tim Watts wrote:



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

+1

We used to have one over the bed in our bedroom to provide 2-way
switching in conjunction with a wall switch.


Tim/Roger .... cheers guys ... that's what I need.



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On 14/07/14 11:51, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 14/07/2014 11:11, Roger Mills wrote:
On 13/07/2014 22:55, Tim Watts wrote:



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

+1

We used to have one over the bed in our bedroom to provide 2-way
switching in conjunction with a wall switch.


Tim/Roger .... cheers guys ... that's what I need.




Very standard item - even B&Q probably have one in stock

On 14/07/2014 12:19, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/07/14 11:51, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 14/07/2014 11:11, Roger Mills wrote:
On 13/07/2014 22:55, Tim Watts wrote:



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

+1

We used to have one over the bed in our bedroom to provide 2-way
switching in conjunction with a wall switch.


Tim/Roger .... cheers guys ... that's what I need.




Very standard item - even B&Q probably have one in stock


It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity - and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way circuit.
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On 14/07/2014 12:19, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/07/14 11:51, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 14/07/2014 11:11, Roger Mills wrote:
On 13/07/2014 22:55, Tim Watts wrote:



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

+1

We used to have one over the bed in our bedroom to provide 2-way
switching in conjunction with a wall switch.


Tim/Roger .... cheers guys ... that's what I need.




Very standard item - even B&Q probably have one in stock


It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity - and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.


Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only 90%
of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching operation.

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On 15/07/2014 22:30, ARW wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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On 14/07/2014 12:19, Tim Watts wrote:
On 14/07/14 11:51, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 14/07/2014 11:11, Roger Mills wrote:
On 13/07/2014 22:55, Tim Watts wrote:



Yes - a 2-way pull cord:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MK3192.html

+1

We used to have one over the bed in our bedroom to provide 2-way
switching in conjunction with a wall switch.


Tim/Roger .... cheers guys ... that's what I need.




Very standard item - even B&Q probably have one in stock


It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity -
and that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.


Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only
90% of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching
operation.


Fairy Nuff. You should know!
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:30:55 +0100, ARW wrote:

It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity - and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.

Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only 90%
of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching operation.

Given that the difference in price is a matter of pence, surely it would
make sense for stocking simply to have all 2-way, at least for plates - pull
might be less beneficial. Plates are molded for 2-way, so it's just a bit of
brass.
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"PeterC" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:30:55 +0100, ARW wrote:

It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity - and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.

Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only
90%
of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching operation.

Given that the difference in price is a matter of pence, surely it would
make sense for stocking simply to have all 2-way, at least for plates -
pull
might be less beneficial. Plates are molded for 2-way, so it's just a bit
of
brass.


I only ever buy 2 way switches for unknown jobs and for general van stock as
just one cockup of needing a 2 way switch but only having a one way switch
when you are miles from the wholesalers makes it worth while me spending the
extra few pence. It is about 20 pence extra for a 2 way pull switch and
about 10 pence for a wall switch.

For known jobs then I often buy what is required.

Take the savings of buying 1 way switches on a second fix of 24 houses that
each use 6 x 1 gang 1 way wall switches and 1 x 1 gang pull switch.


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On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 22:07:49 +0100, ARW wrote:

"PeterC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:30:55 +0100, ARW wrote:

It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity - and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.

Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only
90%
of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching operation.

Given that the difference in price is a matter of pence, surely it would
make sense for stocking simply to have all 2-way, at least for plates -
pull
might be less beneficial. Plates are molded for 2-way, so it's just a bit
of
brass.

I only ever buy 2 way switches for unknown jobs and for general van stock as
just one cockup of needing a 2 way switch but only having a one way switch
when you are miles from the wholesalers makes it worth while me spending the
extra few pence. It is about 20 pence extra for a 2 way pull switch and
about 10 pence for a wall switch.

For known jobs then I often buy what is required.

Take the savings of buying 1 way switches on a second fix of 24 houses that
each use 6 x 1 gang 1 way wall switches and 1 x 1 gang pull switch.

Yes - could be getting on for a hundred quid.
My house was rewired with 1-way. So far I've had to replace 4 with 2-way and
now have a stock of 1-way.
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"PeterC" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 22:07:49 +0100, ARW wrote:

"PeterC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:30:55 +0100, ARW wrote:

It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity -
and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.

Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only
90%
of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching
operation.

Given that the difference in price is a matter of pence, surely it would
make sense for stocking simply to have all 2-way, at least for plates -
pull
might be less beneficial. Plates are molded for 2-way, so it's just a
bit
of
brass.

I only ever buy 2 way switches for unknown jobs and for general van stock
as
just one cockup of needing a 2 way switch but only having a one way
switch
when you are miles from the wholesalers makes it worth while me spending
the
extra few pence. It is about 20 pence extra for a 2 way pull switch and
about 10 pence for a wall switch.

For known jobs then I often buy what is required.

Take the savings of buying 1 way switches on a second fix of 24 houses
that
each use 6 x 1 gang 1 way wall switches and 1 x 1 gang pull switch.

Yes - could be getting on for a hundred quid.
My house was rewired with 1-way. So far I've had to replace 4 with 2-way
and
now have a stock of 1-way.


Well about £20:-). 6 x 10 pence and 1 x 20 pence saving per house = 80
pence. 24 x 0.8 = £19.20. But imaging that you are fitting many thousands of
lightwswitches in a year

May I ask why have you had to replace your one way switches with two way
switches? You must have had to add new cables to make use of the two way
switching.

Cheers

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:56:37 +0100, ARW wrote:

"PeterC" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 22:07:49 +0100, ARW wrote:

"PeterC" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:30:55 +0100, ARW wrote:

It's quite likely that they're *all* made as 2-way for simplicity -
and
that you then ignore the third connection when using it on a 1-way
circuit.

Trust me. They are not all 2 way. Just like 1 gang light switches only
90%
of pull switches only need to be operated in a 1 way switching
operation.

Given that the difference in price is a matter of pence, surely it would
make sense for stocking simply to have all 2-way, at least for plates -
pull
might be less beneficial. Plates are molded for 2-way, so it's just a
bit
of
brass.

I only ever buy 2 way switches for unknown jobs and for general van stock
as
just one cockup of needing a 2 way switch but only having a one way
switch
when you are miles from the wholesalers makes it worth while me spending
the
extra few pence. It is about 20 pence extra for a 2 way pull switch and
about 10 pence for a wall switch.

For known jobs then I often buy what is required.

Take the savings of buying 1 way switches on a second fix of 24 houses
that
each use 6 x 1 gang 1 way wall switches and 1 x 1 gang pull switch.

Yes - could be getting on for a hundred quid.
My house was rewired with 1-way. So far I've had to replace 4 with 2-way
and
now have a stock of 1-way.

Well about £20:-). 6 x 10 pence and 1 x 20 pence saving per house = 80
pence. 24 x 0.8 = £19.20. But imaging that you are fitting many thousands of
lightwswitches in a year

Right, I over-estimated the extra bit for 2-way.

May I ask why have you had to replace your one way switches with two way
switches? You must have had to add new cables to make use of the two way
switching.

Cheers

Hall/landing was 1-way to hall on the landing so that was made full 2-way.
******* of a job - there's still some of my skin on the wall.
Bedroom has a secong light fitting by the bed, with pull-switch.
Kitchen had single fitting, now has 2 HF 14W tubes, independently switched.
Lounge has a wall light added (80 lumen LED for use when TV's on), 2-way by
each of the 2 doors.
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