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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last
20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? -- Adam |
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Just spray a bit around anyway, you don't have to "hit" it....
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:55:24 +0100
"ARW" wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Of course they do. Next? -- Davey. |
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JimK wrote:
Just spray a bit around anyway, you don't have to "hit" it.... Jim K But it's so much more satisfying if you do... ;-) Tim |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? -- Adam Yes, flies have intelligence. They've been here longer than humming beans. Also it's worth remembering that they launch themselves backwards. A decent, old fashioned, fly swat is a good tool. Aimed in the right direction, but do please look out for the current nookie factor. Out of of interest, what has caused such a beast to exist in your abode? Whiff of old fish perhaps? Nick. |
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On 17/06/2014 18:55, ARW wrote:
Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Just used a can of 'DustOff' held upside down - froze the b... solid, 5 minutes before he dropped off the wall behind my monitor! Peter PS haven't checked to see if he thawed out :-) |
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ARW wrote:
Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? The don't know the difference between a fixed window and the one I've opened for them to leave by ... |
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JimK wrote: Just spray a bit around anyway, you don't have to "hit" it.... But it's so much more satisfying if you do... ;-) My weapon of choice is the Dyson handheld vac. Very satisfying to see the victim inside. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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"Nick" wrote in message
... "ARW" wrote in message ... Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? -- Adam Yes, flies have intelligence. They've been here longer than humming beans. Also it's worth remembering that they launch themselves backwards. A decent, old fashioned, fly swat is a good tool. Aimed in the right direction, but do please look out for the current nookie factor. Out of of interest, what has caused such a beast to exist in your abode? Whiff of old fish perhaps? Open windows and cat food at a guess. -- Adam |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk... ARW wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? The don't know the difference between a fixed window and the one I've opened for them to leave by ... You are assuming that they want to leave. -- Adam |
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In article , ARW
writes Open windows and cat food at a guess. Sounds like you need to go dry. Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul. -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46:57 PM UTC+1, fred wrote:
Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul. That depends what you feed your cat. Lamb chop and chicken breast don't have any jelly or other semi-liquid to hang around and the plates seem to get licked clean by Mr Paws. Poached cod smells no matter how thoroughly the plate is licked. Tescas pouches do seem to have a whiff of drains about them. Owain |
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... On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46:57 PM UTC+1, fred wrote: Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul. That depends what you feed your cat. Aldi brand. The annoying little ****er has turned it's nose up to the £30 quids worth of Whiskas stuff I bought it. Last week it preferred Whiskas this week it want's Aldi. -- Adam |
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ARW wrote:
Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Adam, When you find the answer, let me know please. The little beggars (along with spiders) keep on setting off the alarms in my workshop and I can never find the little beggars and have to resort to spraying the shop with fly and insect killer and shutting the door - it gets bloody expensive on fly spray in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a time (and it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders out of their little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to the spider 'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes). Cash |
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On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote:
Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic recognition of a can of spray. I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat If that doesn't work, try a shotgun with fine shot - that's what a real man in Texas would do. That still leaves the C4. |
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in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a time (and it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders out of their little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to the spider 'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes). Wouldn't it be easier to keep the spiders so they help you get rid of the flies? -- Chris Green · |
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On 17/06/14 21:02, ARW wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46:57 PM UTC+1, fred wrote: Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul. That depends what you feed your cat. Aldi brand. The annoying little ****er has turned it's nose up to the £30 quids worth of Whiskas stuff I bought it. Last week it preferred Whiskas this week it want's Aldi. Maybe Aldi has the cat equivalent of cocaine mixed in. If that, you'll find it tough trying to wean the animal off it... Rehab. Chicken Nuggets.... -- Adrian C |
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Where the heck do they get the energy from to keep flying around - even if you open a window they will keep circling around using energy. |
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"Cash" writes: wrote: Wouldn't it be easier to keep the spiders so they help you get rid of the flies? Not when the little beggars are breeding the way they are! I was working at the bench last year and suddenly realised I was being covered (literally) in very young spiders dropping from the overhead fluorescent light casing - I don't mind spiders running around now and again, but to use my workshop as a breeding ground is just *NOT* on. vbg Which reminds me, saw one of the ones with small body and really long legs in the lounge yesterday, only it wasn't small because it was carrying a large egg sack. It managed to hide before I got the vacuum cleaner downstairs, and hasn't been seen since. Since I'm quite interested in growing various carnivorous plants, I hardly see any flying insects in the house - they don't last long enough. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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"ARW" wrote in message ... Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Don't use the stuff. It is highly toxic. Get yourself a fly paper. They respond to movement but have a narrow blind spot behind. All the ones that didn't are dead due to Darwin. They are very acutely responsive to smells. |
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"Cash" wrote in message ... ARW wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Adam, When you find the answer, let me know please. The little beggars (along with spiders) keep on setting off the alarms in my workshop and I can never find the little beggars and have to resort to spraying the shop with fly and insect killer and shutting the door - it gets bloody expensive on fly spray in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a time (and it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders out of their little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to the spider 'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes). You probably have people with horses/other farm animals nearby. The flies breed in the hoss/other ****. Also encourages rats with them chucking food on the ground. These people are a PITA. I had one with pigs until recently. Pigs now gone, so are the flies. F knows what the dozey ******* will get up to next. Make sure you have a good lid on your waste/wheelie bins etc. |
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"harryagain" wrote in message ... "ARW" wrote in message ... Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Don't use the stuff. It is highly toxic. Pigs arse it is to humans. Get yourself a fly paper. Get stuffed. They respond to movement but have a narrow blind spot behind. All the ones that didn't are dead due to Darwin. They are very acutely responsive to smells. |
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On Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:50:18 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote:
On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic recognition of a can of spray. I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat If that doesn't work, try a shotgun with fine shot - that's what a real man in Texas would do. That still leaves the C4. A friend has a picture framing business. In the workshop the standard fly "swatter" is a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol and a cigarette lighter :-) |
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Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system
that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly. They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "ARW" wrote in message ... Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? -- Adam |
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On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly. They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin. Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a p*ssed glaswegian. 1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and protection. |
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On 17/06/2014 23:57, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Since I'm quite interested in growing various carnivorous plants, I hardly see any flying insects in the house - they don't last long enough. Last year one of my plants kept falling over, when I looked it had about 60 dead wasps in one of its pots. I have no idea why they favoured the one pot maybe it was a pheromone thing. |
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"ARW" wrote: Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Don't use the stuff. It is highly toxic. Toxic to insects; that would be the point. The "household" fly sprays are usually made from synthetic versions of chemicals found in chrysanthemum and similar flowers, toxic to humans? Not so much. Keep away from cats and fish though. |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
... On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote: Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly. They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin. Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a p*ssed glaswegian. 1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and protection. Interesting. However, a million ****ed Glaswegians would simply be a million-fold nuisance. |
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On 18/06/14 10:41, Richard wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote: Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly. They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin. Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a p*ssed glaswegian. 1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and protection. Interesting. However, a million ****ed Glaswegians would simply be a million-fold nuisance. Scotland. World Cup 2014. *cough* ;- |
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:02:13 +0100
Tim Watts wrote: On 18/06/14 10:41, Richard wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote: Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly. They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin. Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a p*ssed glaswegian. 1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and protection. Interesting. However, a million ****ed Glaswegians would simply be a million-fold nuisance. Scotland. World Cup 2014. *cough* ;- There are some Commonwealth Games to come yet...... -- Davey. |
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:23:13 +0100, tony sayer
wrote: In article , scribeth thus On Tuesday, 17 June 2014 21:50:18 UTC+1, Tim Watts wrote: On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic recognition of a can of spray. I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat If that doesn't work, try a shotgun with fine shot - that's what a real man in Texas would do. That still leaves the C4. A friend has a picture framing business. In the workshop the standard fly "swatter" is a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol and a cigarette lighter :-) We used to bugger around with that in the TV workshop years ago, a can of switch cleaner and a lighter made a very good flame thrower... As does a can of hair spray. :-) Indeed, you might even be tempted to try the "Turn them into gliders" trick with a can of hair laquer but I rather think that's unlikely to work as well as the trick which includes the use of a lighter. -- J B Good |
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On 17/06/2014 23:57, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Since I'm quite interested in growing various carnivorous plants, I hardly see any flying insects in the house - they don't last long enough. In our office we recently got a considerable number of plants. Together with their load of small insects. Today three insectivorous plants arrived - hopefully they will quickly get into their stride. Some sort of pitcher, a venus, and something else! Any tips? -- Rod |
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On 18/06/2014 09:27, Tim Watts wrote:
1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and protection. In our case they'd worked out that behind the hot water cylinder it was warm all year around, and they had access to outside too through one of the inevitable cracks in an old house. I don't know how long they'd been there, but I filled the vacuum three times with fine sand... Today the thatchers & tilers are here. There's a lot to do on this house. Andy |
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"Cash" wrote in message
... ARW wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Adam, When you find the answer, let me know please. The little beggars (along with spiders) keep on setting off the alarms in my workshop and I can never find the little beggars and have to resort to spraying the shop with fly and insect killer and shutting the door - it gets bloody expensive on fly spray in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a time (and it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders out of their little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to the spider 'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes). Greenhouse smokebomb? -- Adam |
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"Vir Campestris" wrote in message
... On 18/06/2014 09:27, Tim Watts wrote: 1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and protection. In our case they'd worked out that behind the hot water cylinder it was warm all year around, and they had access to outside too through one of the inevitable cracks in an old house. I don't know how long they'd been there, but I filled the vacuum three times with fine sand... Today the thatchers & tilers are here. There's a lot to do on this house. And it sounds like you have done a good DIY job of delegating the work:-) -- Adam |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
... On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote: Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly killer spray. And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like? Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic recognition of a can of spray. I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat Nor did the apprentice when I dared him to poke the wires on the one I bought:-) I assume you mean one of these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrQf-92AU4A -- Adam |
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