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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last
20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly
killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?

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Just spray a bit around anyway, you don't have to "hit" it....

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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for
the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the
can of fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a
can of fly killer spray looks like?


Of course they do.

Next?

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Just spray a bit around anyway, you don't have to "hit" it....

Jim K


But it's so much more satisfying if you do... ;-)

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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?

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Yes, flies have intelligence. They've been here longer than humming beans.
Also it's worth remembering that they launch themselves backwards.
A decent, old fashioned, fly swat is a good tool. Aimed in the right
direction, but do please look out for the current nookie factor.
Out of of interest, what has caused such a beast to exist in your abode?
Whiff of old fish perhaps?

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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can
of fly killer spray looks like?

Just used a can of 'DustOff' held upside down - froze the b... solid, 5
minutes before he dropped off the wall behind my monitor!

Peter

PS haven't checked to see if he thawed out :-)
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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the last
20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly
killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?


The don't know the difference between a fixed window and the one I've
opened for them to leave by ...


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Just spray a bit around anyway, you don't have to "hit" it....


But it's so much more satisfying if you do... ;-)


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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?

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Yes, flies have intelligence. They've been here longer than humming beans.
Also it's worth remembering that they launch themselves backwards.
A decent, old fashioned, fly swat is a good tool. Aimed in the right
direction, but do please look out for the current nookie factor.



Out of of interest, what has caused such a beast to exist in your abode?
Whiff of old fish perhaps?


Open windows and cat food at a guess.



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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last
20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of fly
killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?


The don't know the difference between a fixed window and the one I've
opened for them to leave by ...



You are assuming that they want to leave.

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Open windows and cat food at a guess.

Sounds like you need to go dry.

Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my
sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the
merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul.

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Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my
sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the
merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul.


That depends what you feed your cat.

Lamb chop and chicken breast don't have any jelly or other semi-liquid to hang around and the plates seem to get licked clean by Mr Paws.

Poached cod smells no matter how thoroughly the plate is licked.

Tescas pouches do seem to have a whiff of drains about them.

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Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my
sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the
merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul.


That depends what you feed your cat.



Aldi brand. The annoying little ****er has turned it's nose up to the £30
quids worth of Whiskas stuff I bought it. Last week it preferred Whiskas
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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for
the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the
can of fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a
can of fly killer spray looks like?


Adam,

When you find the answer, let me know please. The little beggars (along with
spiders) keep on setting off the alarms in my workshop and I can never find
the little beggars and have to resort to spraying the shop with fly and
insect killer and shutting the door - it gets bloody expensive on fly spray
in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a time (and
it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders out of their
little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to the spider
'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes).


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On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote:
Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can
of fly killer spray looks like?


Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic
recognition of a can of spray.

I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat

If that doesn't work, try a shotgun with fine shot - that's what a real
man in Texas would do.

That still leaves the C4.


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in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a time (and
it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders out of their
little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to the spider
'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes).

Wouldn't it be easier to keep the spiders so they help you get rid of
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On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:46:57 PM UTC+1, fred wrote:
Couldn't understand the ridiculous smell at the kitchen sink at my
sister's place until I spotted a used (wet) cat food dish with the
merest hint of food remaining waiting to be washed up, it was foul.


That depends what you feed your cat.



Aldi brand. The annoying little ****er has turned it's nose up to the
£30 quids worth of Whiskas stuff I bought it. Last week it preferred
Whiskas this week it want's Aldi.


Maybe Aldi has the cat equivalent of cocaine mixed in. If that, you'll
find it tough trying to wean the animal off it...

Rehab. Chicken Nuggets....

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Where the heck do they get the energy from to keep flying around - even if
you open a window they will keep circling around using energy.


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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?


Don't use the stuff.
It is highly toxic.
Get yourself a fly paper.

They respond to movement but have a narrow blind spot behind.
All the ones that didn't are dead due to Darwin.

They are very acutely responsive to smells.


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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for
the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the
can of fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a
can of fly killer spray looks like?


Adam,

When you find the answer, let me know please. The little beggars (along
with spiders) keep on setting off the alarms in my workshop and I can
never find the little beggars and have to resort to spraying the shop with
fly and insect killer and shutting the door - it gets bloody expensive on
fly spray in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a
time (and it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders
out of their little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to
the spider 'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes).


You probably have people with horses/other farm animals nearby. The flies
breed in the hoss/other ****.
Also encourages rats with them chucking food on the ground.
These people are a PITA.
I had one with pigs until recently. Pigs now gone, so are the flies.
F knows what the dozey ******* will get up to next.

Make sure you have a good lid on your waste/wheelie bins etc.


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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can of
fly killer spray looks like?


Don't use the stuff.
It is highly toxic.


Pigs arse it is to humans.

Get yourself a fly paper.


Get stuffed.

They respond to movement but have a narrow blind spot behind.
All the ones that didn't are dead due to Darwin.


They are very acutely responsive to smells.




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On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote:

Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.


And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can
of fly killer spray looks like?


Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic
recognition of a can of spray.

I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat

If that doesn't work, try a shotgun with fine shot - that's what a real
man in Texas would do.

That still leaves the C4.


A friend has a picture framing business. In the workshop the standard fly
"swatter" is a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol and a cigarette lighter :-)


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Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system
that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly.
They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours
of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly
who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin.
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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

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On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system
that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly.
They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as ours
of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a fly
who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin.


Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a p*ssed
glaswegian.

1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex
structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and
protection.

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Since I'm quite interested in growing various carnivorous plants, I
hardly see any flying insects in the house - they don't last long enough.


Last year one of my plants kept falling over, when I looked it had about
60 dead wasps in one of its pots.
I have no idea why they favoured the one pot maybe it was a pheromone thing.
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Do they know what a can of fly killer spray looks like?


Don't use the stuff. It is highly toxic.


Toxic to insects; that would be the point.

The "household" fly sprays are usually made from synthetic versions of
chemicals found in chrysanthemum and similar flowers, toxic to humans?
Not so much. Keep away from cats and fish though.

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On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent system
that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly.
They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same as
ours
of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across a
fly
who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin.


Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a p*ssed
glaswegian.

1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex
structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and
protection.


Interesting. However, a million ****ed Glaswegians would simply be a
million-fold nuisance.



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On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent
system
that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly.
They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the same
as ours
of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come across
a fly
who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin.


Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a
p*ssed glaswegian.

1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex
structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and
protection.


Interesting. However, a million ****ed Glaswegians would simply be a
million-fold nuisance.


Scotland. World Cup 2014. *cough*

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On 18/06/14 10:41, Richard wrote:
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On 18/06/14 09:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
Define intelligence. I'd suggest you could build a non intelligent
system
that could learn to detect dangerous things and act accordingly.
They have a kind of distributed brain system, which is not the
same as ours
of course as its evolved to do other things. I have never come
across a fly
who could have any kind of meaningful debate with me... grin.

Look at ants. One ant just looks like it's wobbling around like a
p*ssed glaswegian.

1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex
structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and
protection.


Interesting. However, a million ****ed Glaswegians would simply be a
million-fold nuisance.


Scotland. World Cup 2014. *cough*

;-


There are some Commonwealth Games to come yet......

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On 17/06/14 18:55, ARW wrote:

Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can
of fly killer spray looks like?

Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic
recognition of a can of spray.

I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat

If that doesn't work, try a shotgun with fine shot - that's what a real
man in Texas would do.

That still leaves the C4.




A friend has a picture framing business. In the workshop the standard fly
"swatter" is a spray bottle of isopropyl alcohol and a cigarette lighter :-)


We used to bugger around with that in the TV workshop years ago, a can
of switch cleaner and a lighter made a very good flame thrower...


As does a can of hair spray. :-)

Indeed, you might even be tempted to try the "Turn them into gliders"
trick with a can of hair laquer but I rather think that's unlikely to
work as well as the trick which includes the use of a lighter.
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Since I'm quite interested in growing various carnivorous plants, I
hardly see any flying insects in the house - they don't last long enough.

In our office we recently got a considerable number of plants. Together
with their load of small insects. Today three insectivorous plants
arrived - hopefully they will quickly get into their stride. Some sort
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1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex
structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and
protection.


In our case they'd worked out that behind the hot water cylinder it was
warm all year around, and they had access to outside too through one of
the inevitable cracks in an old house.

I don't know how long they'd been there, but I filled the vacuum three
times with fine sand...

Today the thatchers & tilers are here. There's a lot to do on this house.

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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for
the last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the
can of fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a
can of fly killer spray looks like?


Adam,

When you find the answer, let me know please. The little beggars (along
with spiders) keep on setting off the alarms in my workshop and I can
never find the little beggars and have to resort to spraying the shop with
fly and insect killer and shutting the door - it gets bloody expensive on
fly spray in the summer, even buying Adi's finest by the dozen cans at a
time (and it's bloody good stuff as well, as it even shifts the spiders
out of their little hiding holes and onto the floor ready for dispatch to
the spider 'heaven' courtesy of my size 11 shoes).


Greenhouse smokebomb?

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1 million ants in a colony build and maintain an extremely complex
structure and undertake gathering, farming (aphids), breeding and
protection.


In our case they'd worked out that behind the hot water cylinder it was
warm all year around, and they had access to outside too through one of
the inevitable cracks in an old house.

I don't know how long they'd been there, but I filled the vacuum three
times with fine sand...

Today the thatchers & tilers are here. There's a lot to do on this house.


And it sounds like you have done a good DIY job of delegating the work:-)



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Got one mother ****erer of a fly in the house. It has buzzed me for the
last 20 minutes. It ****ed off and hid as soon as I picked up the can of
fly killer spray.

And it's not the first time this has happened. Do they know what a can
of fly killer spray looks like?


Try some different things - it's had 50 years to evolve genetic
recognition of a can of spray.

I bet the little git would not recognise a high voltage zapper bat



Nor did the apprentice when I dared him to poke the wires on the one I
bought:-)

I assume you mean one of these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrQf-92AU4A



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