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Loosening a ceiling rose
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen
which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? http://www.opmltd.co.uk/product_phot...jar_opener.jpg Now, before you do - has the ceiling been painted lost of times and has the paint sealed the top of the rose? |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 15/06/2014 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? If all else fails, just crack it off with a good thump of a hammer (assuming the power's off), then fit a whole new assembly. |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 15/06/2014 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? A few sharp whacks with the handle of the screwdriver around the edges to break the stiction on the threads usually does it. If not, hit it harder and then replace the one with the broken cover with a new one! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Loosening a ceiling rose
"John Rumm" wrote in message
... On 15/06/2014 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? A few sharp whacks with the handle of the screwdriver around the edges to break the stiction on the threads usually does it. If not, hit it harder and then replace the one with the broken cover with a new one! Indeed. -- Adam |
Loosening a ceiling rose
It has been my experience that these tend to crack once o you put enough
force on them to turn them.I have found to my cost the only way to make these actually usable is to remove them every year or so. I assume some paind has not trickled into the thread, maybe some paint softener might help. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Sadly often that is the only option with these plastic things. In my view
they use poor plastic. I had one on the bathroom ceiling made of what appears to be polypropolene and it never had this issue, though was somewhat more flexible and you should not over tighten the lid as it stretches a bit. The other issue of course if old fashioned bulbs were in use is that the socket disintegrates and the wire goes rock hard again due to the heat. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "ARW" wrote in message ... "John Rumm" wrote in message ... On 15/06/2014 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? A few sharp whacks with the handle of the screwdriver around the edges to break the stiction on the threads usually does it. If not, hit it harder and then replace the one with the broken cover with a new one! Indeed. -- Adam |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 15/06/2014 01:33, GMM wrote:
On 15/06/2014 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? If all else fails, just crack it off with a good thump of a hammer (assuming the power's off), then fit a whole new assembly. +1. Thats what I do. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Loosening a ceiling rose
+1. Thats what I do.
no doubt after checking that it's screwed to a joist and not just into lath and plaster which is only held up by the ceiling paper :) -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
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"Robin" wrote in :
+1. Thats what I do. no doubt after checking that it's screwed to a joist and not just into lath and plaster which is only held up by the ceiling paper :) +1 |
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En el artículo , Timothy Murphy
escribió: Any better suggestions? Couple sharp raps with a screwdriver handle to loosen the threads. Clean off the WD40 (that was a waste of time) and use a Marigold glove to grip it and give it lots of welly. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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Timothy Murphy pretended :
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? Have you one of those rubberised engine oil filter removers? Like rubber strap, with a handle - the more you try to turn the tighter they grip, about a pound in a pound shop. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 07:44:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
It has been my experience that these tend to crack once o you put enough force on them to turn them.I have found to my cost the only way to make these actually usable is to remove them every year or so. I assume some paind has not trickled into the thread, maybe some paint softener might help. I used these: http://goo.gl/SXqlHA -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 15/06/14 12:13, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Timothy Murphy escribió: Any better suggestions? Couple sharp raps with a screwdriver handle to loosen the threads. Clean off the WD40 (that was a waste of time) and use a Marigold glove to grip it and give it lots of welly. SDS chisel, angle grinder, multi-master, pressure washer, hot air gun, demolition ball. Either of the above will move it, and gaffa tape to fix remains .... -- Not Me |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 15/06/2014 12:28, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 07:44:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: It has been my experience that these tend to crack once o you put enough force on them to turn them.I have found to my cost the only way to make these actually usable is to remove them every year or so. I assume some paind has not trickled into the thread, maybe some paint softener might help. I used these: http://goo.gl/SXqlHA So you plug it in and screw the cover on and it gets stuck the same as the cover on the ordinary ones? |
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In message , Adrian C
writes On 15/06/14 12:13, Mike Tomlinson wrote: En el artículo , Timothy Murphy escribió: Any better suggestions? Couple sharp raps with a screwdriver handle to loosen the threads. Clean off the WD40 (that was a waste of time) and use a Marigold glove to grip it and give it lots of welly. SDS chisel, angle grinder, multi-master, pressure washer, hot air gun, demolition ball. I once went to an auction where amongst other things there was a screened room for disposal, for emc testing equipment. Part of the description in the catalogue said "explosives are not allowed in the removal of this lot" (I assumed that they meant cutting charges, rather than blowing the building down) You forgot to mention explosives, some ceiling roses I have had may just about have yielded to them. Either of the above will move it, and gaffa tape to fix remains .... Good stuff gaffer tape :-) -- Bill |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:55:15 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
On 15/06/2014 12:28, Bob Eager wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 07:44:04 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: It has been my experience that these tend to crack once o you put enough force on them to turn them.I have found to my cost the only way to make these actually usable is to remove them every year or so. I assume some paind has not trickled into the thread, maybe some paint softener might help. I used these: http://goo.gl/SXqlHA So you plug it in and screw the cover on and it gets stuck the same as the cover on the ordinary ones? No, because the cover is soft plastic and pushes on. Doesn't need to screw on because removing it doesn't expose live parts. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
Loosening a ceiling rose
"Timothy Murphy" wrote in message ... I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland I go with the suggestion of breaking off the cover, which shouldn't be too difficult. The problem with trying to unscrew the cover using force is, even if the fitting is properly secured to a joist, using force may put unnecessary strain on the fixing when the price of a new rose simply doesn't warrant it. michael adams .... |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 12:09:45 AM UTC+1, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? A friend suggested a coffee jar lid as a replacement rose cover! NT |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Timothy Murphy pretended : I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? Have you one of those rubberised engine oil filter removers? Like rubber strap, with a handle - the more you try to turn the tighter they grip, about a pound in a pound shop. *About* a pound? -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
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Mike Barnes used his keyboard to write :
Harry Bloomfield wrote: Timothy Murphy pretended : I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? Have you one of those rubberised engine oil filter removers? Like rubber strap, with a handle - the more you try to turn the tighter they grip, about a pound in a pound shop. *About* a pound? Some pound shops are 99p, others £1.20. lol -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Tip - Don't over tighten rose covers!
I agree with smashing it off and replacing it. |
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wrote:
A friend suggested a coffee jar lid as a replacement rose cover! I think Lynn Faulds Wood told us that was a bad idea back in the '80s. Owain |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Mike Barnes used his keyboard to write : *About* a pound? Some pound shops are 99p, others £1.20. lol Quite! I walked past a small shop recently, called something beginning with "pound", proclaiming "Everything a pound &". So far as I could tell from the display, this simply meant nothing under a pound. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On 15/06/2014 11:56, DerbyBorn wrote:
"Robin" wrote in : +1. Thats what I do. no doubt after checking that it's screwed to a joist and not just into lath and plaster which is only held up by the ceiling paper :) +1 Same damage occurs if you apply too much welly unscrewing it :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Chris J Dixon wrote:
Harry Bloomfield wrote: Mike Barnes used his keyboard to write : *About* a pound? Some pound shops are 99p, others £1.20. lol Quite! I walked past a small shop recently, called something beginning with "pound", proclaiming "Everything a pound &". So far as I could tell from the display, this simply meant nothing under a pound. Yes, I've seen that as EVERYTHING FROM A POUND. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Mike Barnes wrote:
Chris J Dixon wrote: Quite! I walked past a small shop recently, called something beginning with "pound", proclaiming "Everything a pound &". So far as I could tell from the display, this simply meant nothing under a pound. Yes, I've seen that as EVERYTHING FROM A POUND. About as helpful as those Sale signs reading "Up to 50% off" All they are actually promising is that the reduction will not exceed 50%, and could indeed be zero. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:25:47 +0100 Chris J Dixon wrote :
Quite! I walked past a small shop recently, called something beginning with "pound", proclaiming "Everything a pound &". So far as I could tell from the display, this simply meant nothing under a pound. We have a couple of Japanese-owned shops called Daiso, everything A$2.80 (about £1.50). Gives them a bit more scope to adjust prices than Poundland. -- Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on', Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com |
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:25:47 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote: Harry Bloomfield wrote: Mike Barnes used his keyboard to write : *About* a pound? Some pound shops are 99p, others £1.20. lol Quite! I walked past a small shop recently, called something beginning with "pound", proclaiming "Everything a pound &". So far as I could tell from the display, this simply meant nothing under a pound. That's also true of the poundshops. Nothing under a pound (no over a pound). Specifying a singular price for all the stock does present its own unique challenges. The "Everything a pound &" just seems to be a way to describe that everything is priced from "One pound right up to one pound and ninetynine pence" a little more 'snappily' (FSVOS). I suppose they could have tried "12 Pound Shop" now that most of the general public have an awareness of the symbol (mis)used in the advertising of the insurance company name "More Thn". :-) -- J B Good |
Loosening a ceiling rose
Johny B Good wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:25:47 +0100, Chris J Dixon wrote: Quite! I walked past a small shop recently, called something beginning with "pound", proclaiming "Everything a pound &". So far as I could tell from the display, this simply meant nothing under a pound. The "Everything a pound &" just seems to be a way to describe that everything is priced from "One pound right up to one pound and ninetynine pence" a little more 'snappily' (FSVOS). From what I saw, they seemed to have stock on display in excess of £2. Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Plant amazing Acers. |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? I'm assuming it is one of the thermosetting plastic beasts. It make well be distorted, cross threaded, or jammed with paint. You may have to break it and replace it. The good news is that they aren't expensive to replace and the wiring is, generally, simple enough. Either label the wires and make notes or photo before you disconnect the old one. -- Smile for the camera ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxyL2_38EsQ Remarkable Coincidences: The Stock Market Crashes of 1929 and 2008 happened on the same date in October. In Oct 1907, a run on the Knickerbocker Trust Company led to the Great Depression. |
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On 09/11/18 13:35, Brian Reay wrote:
On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? I'm assuming it is one of the thermosetting plastic beasts. It make well be distorted, cross threaded, or jammed with paint. You may have to break it and replace it. The good news is that they aren't expensive to replace and the wiring is, generally, simple enough. Either label the wires and make notes or photo before you disconnect the old one. Some modern ones slide off. -- Smile for the camera ;-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxyL2_38EsQ Remarkable Coincidences: The Stock Market Crashes of 1929 and 2008 happened on the same date in October. In Oct 1907, a run on the Knickerbocker Trust Company led to the Great Depression. |
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On 09/11/2018 13:37, Brian Reay wrote:
On 09/11/18 13:35, Brian Reay wrote: On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? I'm assuming it is one of the thermosetting plastic beasts. It make well be distorted, cross threaded, or jammed with paint. You may have to break it and replace it. The good news is that they aren't expensive to replace and the wiring is, generally, simple enough. Either label the wires and make notes or photo before you disconnect the old one. Some modern ones slide off. I should imagine that the 2018 version of modern will be different to that of 2014. BICBW |
Loosening a ceiling rose
On 09/11/2018 13:35, Brian Reay wrote:
On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? Either an oil filter removal too or one of those cheap plastic/rubber jam jar lid removal gizmos used if you have weak/arthritic/elderly wrists - I have used the same thing for uncrewing a bottle trap waste. Useful tool for all sorts of stuff. This sort of thing:- http://tinyurl.com/weakwrist |
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On 09/11/2018 14:53, Andy Bennet wrote:
On 09/11/2018 13:35, Brian Reay wrote: On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? Either an oil filter removal too or one of those cheap plastic/rubber jam jar lid removal gizmos used if you have weak/arthritic/elderly wrists - I have used the same thing for uncrewing a bottle trap waste. Useful tool for all sorts of stuff. This sort of thing:- http://tinyurl.com/weakwrist IME this is probably going to rip the backplate off the ceiling. Better just to smash the removable part. |
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On 09/11/2018 14:53, Andy Bennet wrote:
Either an oil filter removal too or one of those cheap plastic/rubber jam jar lid removal gizmos used if you have weak/arthritic/elderly wrist While on the subject of jar lid removers ...... rather than using force to turn a jar lid instead use a tool the releases the vacuum and then the lid unscrews easily by hand. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Youtube demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss It's something I purchased a few years ago for around £2.50 and have found that works well. Something else I've purchased and recommend https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aidapt-Ring...ng+pull+opener -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Not really.
The plastic is the same. Actually I cannot even find the old post to check its date. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "Richard" wrote in message ... On 09/11/2018 13:37, Brian Reay wrote: On 09/11/18 13:35, Brian Reay wrote: On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. I guess the heat from the bulb below may have distorted it, or just made it adhere tightly to the part attached to the ceiling. I've tried turning it with a (not very good) plumber's wrench, after applying WD50 liberally, but this just slipped round. I thought of drilling two holes in the flat bottom, inserting screws and using a screwdriver or similar to turn it. Any better suggestions? I'm assuming it is one of the thermosetting plastic beasts. It make well be distorted, cross threaded, or jammed with paint. You may have to break it and replace it. The good news is that they aren't expensive to replace and the wiring is, generally, simple enough. Either label the wires and make notes or photo before you disconnect the old one. Some modern ones slide off. I should imagine that the 2018 version of modern will be different to that of 2014. BICBW |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 09/11/2018 14:53, Andy Bennet wrote: Either an oil filter removal too or one of those cheap plastic/rubber jam jar lid removal gizmos used if you have weak/arthritic/elderly wrist While on the subject of jar lid removers ...... rather than using force to turn a jar lid instead use a tool the releases the vacuum and then the lid unscrews easily by hand. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Youtube demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPsPTE1Sss It's something I purchased a few years ago for around £2.50 and have found that works well. Something else I've purchased and recommend Doesnt work for these and needless to say I have well over a hundred of them I use for my home made marmalade which is impossible to get the lids off if you put the lids on immediately after you fill the jar with stinking hot marmalade from the stock pot. 600g jars. https://www.dropbox.com/s/c2xt7c4w3y..._1984.JPG?dl=0 The Culinare One Touch Automatic Jar Opener https://www.amazon.co.uk/Culinare-To...c+Jar+Open er does work, but they dont last long, they all break. They do get replaced under warranty but the last time they said that they dont make them anymore, presumably because they can't make them strong enough. But I notice that Amazon is still flogging them so maybe they changed their mind on that, or lied to me. There are some chinese clones now, havent tried one yet and there is buckleys of any warranty claim so it could get expensive. What does work is to microwave the unopened jar for a few minutes which increases the pressure inside so you can turn the lid by hand, but the contents are then ****ing hot so its not an ideal approach either. Should be possible to put the lids on when the marmalade has cooled a bit but before its at room temp so it still vacuum seals as it cools completely, but I only make it every 2 years so I havent had a chance to try that yet. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aidapt-Ring...ng+pull+opener |
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On 09/11/2018 13:35, Brian Reay wrote:
On 15/06/14 00:09, Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a round plastic ceiling rose in our kitchen which I am unable to rotate in order to remove it. Big hammer. Bill |
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