I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think
we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of
people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...

I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in the
morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker than
has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a big
gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think we're
a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of people
here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last few
pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Bill

Do you still need planning permission for illuminated signs? You always used
to.

Andrew

On 25/03/2014 14:22, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...

I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m
hoping genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit
quicker than has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to
think we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a
lot of people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Do you still need planning permission for illuminated signs? You always
used to.

You do, although I suspect that nobody is likely to care about an
illuminated house number, even if it is, technically, advertising. I
have had my house number painted on a light by my front gate for 20
years without anybody saying anything.

Colin Bignell

In article ,
Andrew Mawson wrote:
Do you still need planning permission for illuminated signs? You always
used to.

Only when in red. ;-)

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On 25/03/2014 14:06, Bill Wright wrote:
I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think
we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of
people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Over engineering at its best ;-)


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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:58:55 +0000, Nightjar
wrote:

On 25/03/2014 14:22, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...

I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m
hoping genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit
quicker than has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to
think we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a
lot of people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Do you still need planning permission for illuminated signs? You always
used to.

You do, although I suspect that nobody is likely to care about an
illuminated house number, even if it is, technically, advertising. I
have had my house number painted on a light by my front gate for 20
years without anybody saying anything.

Colin Bignell


I modified a pound shop "Solar fence light"

http://www.greenfingers.com/supersto...dept_id=500601

into a illuminated house number.

The trick was to re-mount the LED further back in the housing so the
lens is illuminated evenly, and seal it with silicone.

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Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Bill Wright wrote:
Im hoping well have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. €œPizza for number 17?€� €œCab for number 11?€� Also Im hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think
we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of
people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

I hope you have another one for people approaching from the opposite
direction. :-)

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

I think if its commercial you do around here, but since most people adorn
their houses with lights at Christmas, I doubt it is an issue for other
things as long as they do not cause nuisance to others, ie huge floodlightes
aimed at other peoples windows all night!

Brian

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"Andrew Mawson" wrote in message
...
"Bill Wright" wrote in message ...

I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in the
morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker than
has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a big
gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think we're
a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of people
here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last few
pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Bill

Do you still need planning permission for illuminated signs? You always
used to.

Andrew

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:06:56 PM UTC, Bill Wright wrote:

I'm hoping we'll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. "Pizza for number 17?" "Cab for number 11?" Also I'm hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.
The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think
we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of
people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.
Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7
Bill

Make the leds follow the numbers and you'd need far less


NT

John Rumm wrote:

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Over engineering at its best ;-)

It was fun to sit for hours soldering the 64 LEDs...

Bill

Mike Barnes wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

I hope you have another one for people approaching from the opposite
direction. :-)


I'm going to make a smaller one and recess it into the end of the wall.

Bill

wrote:

Make the leds follow the numbers and you'd need far less


NT
That's how my neighbour did it and it's ****e compared to mine. He's
green with envy.

Bill

wrote:
Make the leds follow the numbers and you'd need far less

Better if you can hook up a detector to make it flash up 'no double glazing
today' and 'don't even think about posting that catalogue' before callers
step off the pavement...

Theo

On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:06:56 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Im hoping well have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. €œPizza for number 17?€� €œCab for number 11?€� Also Im hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.

I tend to not have visitors at night, so I don't need a lighted number.
During the day people often go to the house next door instead of mine. I
have (let's say) the number 46 on my letter box, and 46 on the gate post,
and a large 46 on my house.
My neighbours have 46A on one letter box and 46B on the other, and a
large 46 on their house even though they are NOT number 46. They don't
want to remove that number or to add an A and B.
What else can I do? Perhaps I could have a metre high 46 on my fence, but
that doesn't really suit an old picket fence. Ideas?
Could I have an arrow pointing to my neighbours that says " NOT 46"

On 26/03/2014 03:50, MattyF wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:06:56 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Im hoping well have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. €œPizza for number 17?€� €œCab for number 11?€� Also Im hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.

I tend to not have visitors at night, so I don't need a lighted number.
During the day people often go to the house next door instead of mine. I
have (let's say) the number 46 on my letter box, and 46 on the gate post,
and a large 46 on my house.
My neighbours have 46A on one letter box and 46B on the other, and a
large 46 on their house even though they are NOT number 46. They don't
want to remove that number or to add an A and B.
What else can I do? Perhaps I could have a metre high 46 on my fence, but
that doesn't really suit an old picket fence. Ideas?
Could I have an arrow pointing to my neighbours that says " NOT 46"


You want a sign saying 'this is the real No 46' :-)

Colin Bignell

Bill Wright wrote:
I’m hoping we’ll have fewer lost souls knocking on the door at one in
the morning. “Pizza for number 17?” “Cab for number 11?” Also I’m hoping
genuine callers such as the District Nurse will find us a bit quicker
than has sometimes been the case.

The problem is that the numbers on our street are illogical. There's a
big gap just before us, so anyone counting the houses is likely to think
we're a lower number than we really are. To make matters worse a lot of
people here stubbornly refuse to display a house number.

Click on a pic to enlarge, then move forwards and backwards. The last
few pics show the finished result.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q67qgx14y861kja/FrxgHSh9y7

Bill
Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting into
your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the pressure
changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water vapour
which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out to
your leds.
hth

Bob

Bob Minchin wrote:

Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting into
your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the pressure
changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water vapour
which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out to
your leds.
hth

Bob

Cheers for that. Actually the PSU in in the workshop and the feed to the
display is 12VDC.

I don't know what will happen in the display box re condensation etc.
The LEDs generate a little bit of warmth. The box is completely
watertight except for a few small holes in the baseplate.

Bill

On 26/03/2014 14:14, Bill Wright wrote:
Bob Minchin wrote:

Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting
into your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the
pressure changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water
vapour which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out
to your leds.
hth

Bob

Cheers for that. Actually the PSU in in the workshop and the feed to the
display is 12VDC.

I don't know what will happen in the display box re condensation etc.
The LEDs generate a little bit of warmth. The box is completely
watertight except for a few small holes in the baseplate.

All my weatherproof switches and sockets have a hole, about 5mm in
diameter, in the base. I presume this serves the dual purpose of
allowing the box to breath and to let any moisture out.

Colin Bignell

Bill Wright wrote:
Bob Minchin wrote:

Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting
into your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the
pressure changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water
vapour which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out
to your leds.
hth

Bob

Cheers for that. Actually the PSU in in the workshop and the feed to the
display is 12VDC.

I don't know what will happen in the display box re condensation etc.
The LEDs generate a little bit of warmth. The box is completely
watertight except for a few small holes in the baseplate.

Bill
Ah! It was the picture of the brickwork that made me assume external
mounting.
External boxes are best used as water/weather deflectors and a small
drain hole located at the lowest point for anything that does get in.
The hole also acts as a vent to prevent any thermal pumping I mentioned
earlier.

Bob

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:14:48 +0000, Bill Wright
wrote:

Bob Minchin wrote:

Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting into
your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the pressure
changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water vapour
which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out to
your leds.
hth

Bob

Cheers for that. Actually the PSU in in the workshop and the feed to the
display is 12VDC.

I don't know what will happen in the display box re condensation etc.
The LEDs generate a little bit of warmth. The box is completely
watertight except for a few small holes in the baseplate.


That's exactly the right approach when you know you can't possibly
make it all gastight. The heat from the electronics should obviate any
condensation around the electrical circuitry and the drain holes will
allow ventillation and drainage of any condensate elsewhere.
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Regards, J B Good

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:00:52 +0000, Nightjar
wrote:

On 26/03/2014 14:14, Bill Wright wrote:
Bob Minchin wrote:

Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting
into your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the
pressure changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water
vapour which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out
to your leds.
hth

Bob

Cheers for that. Actually the PSU in in the workshop and the feed to the
display is 12VDC.

I don't know what will happen in the display box re condensation etc.
The LEDs generate a little bit of warmth. The box is completely
watertight except for a few small holes in the baseplate.

All my weatherproof switches and sockets have a hole, about 5mm in
diameter, in the base. I presume this serves the dual purpose of
allowing the box to breath and to let any moisture out.

[PG_mode ON]

It certainly does, Colin, it certainly does...

[PG_mode OFF]


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Regards, J B Good

On 26/03/2014 15:00, Nightjar wrote:
On 26/03/2014 14:14, Bill Wright wrote:
Bob Minchin wrote:

Bill, Over time I think you might have a problem with water getting
into your power supply box. Even with a seal round the lid, the
pressure changes with temperature will act as a pump bringing in water
vapour which will eventually condense inside the box.
Far better if you can bring the PSU in doors and feed low voltage out
to your leds.
hth

Bob

Cheers for that. Actually the PSU in in the workshop and the feed to the
display is 12VDC.

I don't know what will happen in the display box re condensation etc.
The LEDs generate a little bit of warmth. The box is completely
watertight except for a few small holes in the baseplate.

All my weatherproof switches and sockets have a hole, about 5mm in
diameter, in the base. I presume this serves the dual purpose of
allowing the box to breath and to let any moisture out.

and IME, all manner of small spiders in ;-)


http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?...nTheWiring.jpg

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John.

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