Received an e-mail last night, asking if I wanted to advertise in a
local shopping precinct.

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

The e-mail had the following errors;

Pentangon (it's Pentagon).
chatham (Chatham).
hhigh footfal
directiry
pentangon
awear
pentongon
limted companys
baords
companys
bussiness

Do I want to advertise with someone who can't spell & has no grasp of
English? Tough call.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

I had an email from one Edward Davey MP telling me about all the flooding
countermeasures that wer in place in his constituancy, where I live.
All the way through the piece the words affect and effect were used
incorrectly.
Does nobody check these things?

Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
Received an e-mail last night, asking if I wanted to advertise in a local
shopping precinct.

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

The e-mail had the following errors;

Pentangon (it's Pentagon).
chatham (Chatham).
hhigh footfal
directiry
pentangon
awear
pentongon
limted companys
baords
companys
bussiness

Do I want to advertise with someone who can't spell & has no grasp of
English? Tough call.



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 14/02/2014 09:45, Brian_Gaff wrote:
I had an email from one Edward Davey MP telling me about all the flooding
countermeasures that wer in place in his constituancy, where I live.
All the way through the piece the words affect and effect were used
incorrectly.
Does nobody check these things?

Brian


Nope.

He looks the type to have unpaid interns, too

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
Received an e-mail last night, asking if I wanted to advertise in a
local shopping precinct.

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

The e-mail had the following errors;

Pentangon (it's Pentagon).
chatham (Chatham).
hhigh footfal
directiry
pentangon
awear
pentongon
limted companys
baords
companys
bussiness

Do I want to advertise with someone who can't spell & has no grasp of
English? Tough call.

I guess they know your advert will be read by the local chavs and school
dropouts, so are letting you know your ad doesnt have to be grammatically
correct, as none of the people who read it would notice.

Maybe something along the lines of:

Attention all mouth breathers, crack heads, scratters, tards and Jeremy
Kyle/Trisha fans,

Are you too dumb to work out how to open a plug to change a fuse,
Not sure which way round to hold a screwdriver,
Think assembling an Ikea Billy bookcase is akin to building a space shuttle,
Dont know which way to turn the stop cock when your house is flooding from
a burst pipe,
Think you need a part P certificate to change a light bulb,
Think DIY is what you do when the missus wont let you on the nest?


Then call the Medway Handy Man out,
He can fix what you are too thick to understand because he didnt leave
school at 14, after 5 years of playing truant.

On 14/02/2014 10:00, newshound wrote:
On 14/02/2014 09:45, Brian_Gaff wrote:
I had an email from one Edward Davey MP telling me about all the flooding
countermeasures that wer in place in his constituancy, where I live.
All the way through the piece the words affect and effect were used
incorrectly.
Does nobody check these things?

Brian


Nope.

Infinitely more worrying is that they have been checked!



He looks the type to have unpaid interns, too

On 14/02/2014 09:45, Brian_Gaff wrote:
I had an email from one Edward Davey MP telling me about all the flooding
countermeasures that wer in place in his constituancy, where I live.
All the way through the piece the words affect and effect were used
incorrectly.
Does nobody check these things?

Brian


Are you assuming that they would know the difference if they *did* check?
--
Cheers,
Roger
____________
Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom
checked.

On 14/02/2014 08:45, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Received an e-mail last night, asking if I wanted to advertise in a
local shopping precinct.

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

The e-mail had the following errors;

Pentangon (it's Pentagon).
chatham (Chatham).
hhigh footfal
directiry
pentangon
awear
pentongon
limted companys
baords
companys
bussiness

Do I want to advertise with someone who can't spell & has no grasp of
English? Tough call.

If you can supply "camera ready" copy, then it ought not matter.


--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

On 14/02/2014 11:38, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-14, Gazz wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

A certain irony in a post complaining about poor formatting.


The post was about grammar & spelling. I don't have the faintest idea
what "a multi-part message in MIME format" is. Nor do I care & I
suspect nobody else does either.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Friday, February 14, 2014 3:28:31 PM UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/02/2014 08:45, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Received an e-mail last night, asking if I wanted to advertise in a
local shopping precinct.

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

The e-mail had the following errors;

Pentangon (it's Pentagon).
chatham (Chatham).
hhigh footfal
directiry
pentangon
awear
pentongon
limted companys
baords
companys
bussiness

Do I want to advertise with someone who can't spell & has no grasp of
English? Tough call.

If you can supply "camera ready" copy, then it ought not matter.

Maybe the agent will 'correct' it for you for free


NT

On 14/02/2014 17:49, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/02/2014 11:38, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-14, Gazz wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

A certain irony in a post complaining about poor formatting.


The post was about grammar & spelling. I don't have the faintest idea
what "a multi-part message in MIME format" is. Nor do I care & I
suspect nobody else does either.

I know and care ;-)


--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

On 14/02/2014 19:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/02/2014 17:49, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/02/2014 11:38, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-14, Gazz wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

A certain irony in a post complaining about poor formatting.


The post was about grammar & spelling. I don't have the faintest idea
what "a multi-part message in MIME format" is. Nor do I care & I
suspect nobody else does either.

I know and care ;-)


OK, I'll bite :-)

What is it & why do you care?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Friday, 14 February 2014 15:28:31 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/02/2014 08:45, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Received an e-mail last night, asking if I wanted to advertise in a

local shopping precinct.



Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I

have a spell checker.



The e-mail had the following errors;



Pentangon (it's Pentagon).

chatham (Chatham).

hhigh footfal

directiry

pentangon

awear

pentongon

limted companys

baords

companys

bussiness



Do I want to advertise with someone who can't spell & has no grasp of

English? Tough call.



If you can supply "camera ready" copy, then it ought not matter.


AKA "PDF" perchance?

Jim K

On 14/02/2014 08:45, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

Mr Skitt would like to point at "in".

Adny

I concur with Huge, please can you post in plain text?

Go into "options" then (perversely) "mail" like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529713974

Then do this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529714874

Better still, dump Windows Live Mail, and use Thunderbird or Free
Agent.

Vir Campestris wrote:
On 14/02/2014 08:45, The Medway Handyman wrote:

Whilst my grammar might not be perfect, I consider in reasonable - and I
have a spell checker.

Mr Skitt would like to point at "in".

ITYF it's just "Skitt" (no Mr). :-)

--
Mkie Barnes
Cheshire, England

On 14/02/2014 20:21, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/02/2014 19:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/02/2014 17:49, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/02/2014 11:38, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-14, Gazz wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

A certain irony in a post complaining about poor formatting.


The post was about grammar & spelling. I don't have the faintest idea
what "a multi-part message in MIME format" is. Nor do I care & I
suspect nobody else does either.

I know and care ;-)


OK, I'll bite :-)

What is it & why do you care?

MIME is Multi-Purpose Internet Mail Extensions - its a bunch of
standards that were developed to allow non text content to be included
in email (which was primarily a system designed to carry 7 bit ASCII and
nothing else). It also works in many "email like" systems such as usenet
- some of the time.

In many respects email has gone downhill ever since!

It allowed embedded advertising, embedded web page style content,
security vulnerabilities, pointless graphics etc to infest what was an
simple yet effective system. It also caused average message sizes to
bloat enormously. Needless to say, advertisers loved it.

Some might argue MS were partly to blame for building it into Outlook
Express (the non techie users email client of choice for many years) and
at a stroke levering all the potential problems to afflict their
Internet Explorer rendering platform, into email such that they could
then affect that as well.

As to why I care; with text only groups like this, there really ought
not be any included "binary" (i.e. MIME) content in the messages. That
means as readers we get to choose how to configure our software to
render messages in fonts of out choice, and colour etc to suit our
preferences. However along comes a message in multipart/MIME format with
a plain test version and a MIME version, and you can suddenly find you
are reading the senders preference for font etc rather than your own for
that message, because your software has decided to it "understands mime"
and will now set about rendering it for you. Alternatively, as you
found, it just treats it as a plain test message and you are now staring
at all the MIME message baggage making the actual content difficult to
find.

Lastly because MIME is the mechanism by which attachments are added to
messages, you also run the problem that text only news servers will drop
those messages from text groups - hence messing up the threading for
some readers.




--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

On 14/02/2014 23:43, Graham. wrote:
I concur with Huge, please can you post in plain text?

Go into "options" then (perversely) "mail" like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529713974

Then do this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529714874

Better still, dump Windows Live Mail, and use Thunderbird or Free
Agent.

I do use Thunderbird.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/02/2014 00:38, John Rumm wrote:

Lastly because MIME is the mechanism by which attachments are added to
messages, you also run the problem that text only news servers will drop
those messages from text groups - hence messing up the threading for
some readers.

Ironically, with the Berlin server and Thunderbird, that post was fine -
simply it was formatted in a different-to-usual font. But I agree with
you through and through.

--
Rod

On 14/02/2014 23:43, Graham. wrote:
I concur with Huge, please can you post in plain text?

Go into "options" then (perversely) "mail" like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529713974

Then do this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529714874

Better still, dump Windows Live Mail, and use Thunderbird or Free
Agent.

I don't use Windows Live Mail. I use Thunderbird.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Graham." wrote in message
...
I concur with Huge, please can you post in plain text?

Go into "options" then (perversely) "mail" like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529713974

Then do this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529714874

Better still, dump Windows Live Mail, and use Thunderbird or Free
Agent.

Sorry about that,
it was my first post to the newsgroup on my new laptop, which runs win8.1,
as i use a pop mail server i had to download the 'live essentials' to get
windows live mail back i was used to on win7, but it downloads the latest
version which has fecked up reply options... i.e. it can't add the indents
to show which part is the reply and which part is what i wrote.... like
Harry does.

I found an option to add indents, but didn't realise until too late it had
but it into html mode.

I've now removed the win8 version of live mail and installed an earlier
version which isnt broken, so normal service has resumed.

On 15/02/2014 09:17, polygonum wrote:
On 15/02/2014 00:38, John Rumm wrote:

Lastly because MIME is the mechanism by which attachments are added to
messages, you also run the problem that text only news servers will drop
those messages from text groups - hence messing up the threading for
some readers.

Ironically, with the Berlin server and Thunderbird, that post was fine -
simply it was formatted in a different-to-usual font. But I agree with
you through and through.

giganews did not filter it either...


--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

On 15/02/2014 09:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/02/2014 23:43, Graham. wrote:
I concur with Huge, please can you post in plain text?

Go into "options" then (perversely) "mail" like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529713974

Then do this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529714874

Better still, dump Windows Live Mail, and use Thunderbird or Free
Agent.

I do use Thunderbird.

I think that comment was addressed to Gazz


--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

On 15/02/2014 10:13, Gazz wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
...
I concur with Huge, please can you post in plain text?

Go into "options" then (perversely) "mail" like this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529713974

Then do this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/12529714874

Better still, dump Windows Live Mail, and use Thunderbird or Free
Agent.

Sorry about that,
it was my first post to the newsgroup on my new laptop, which runs
win8.1, as i use a pop mail server i had to download the 'live
essentials' to get windows live mail back i was used to on win7, but it
downloads the latest version which has fecked up reply options... i.e.
it can't add the indents to show which part is the reply and which part
is what i wrote.... like Harry does.

I found an option to add indents, but didn't realise until too late it
had but it into html mode.

I've now removed the win8 version of live mail and installed an earlier
version which isnt broken, so normal service has resumed.

Never went away as far as I'm concerned. The medium-is-not-the-message.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 15/02/2014 15:21, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , John
Rumm wrote:

On 14/02/2014 17:49, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 14/02/2014 11:38, Huge wrote:
On 2014-02-14, Gazz wrote:
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

A certain irony in a post complaining about poor formatting.


The post was about grammar & spelling. I don't have the faintest idea
what "a multi-part message in MIME format" is. Nor do I care & I
suspect nobody else does either.

I know and care ;-)

So do I, but not relevant on usenet.

Tis when someone stuffs mime content in usenet postings! ;-)


--
Cheers,

John.

/================================================== ===============\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\================================================= ================/

In message , polygonum
writes
On 15/02/2014 00:38, John Rumm wrote:

Lastly because MIME is the mechanism by which attachments are added to
messages, you also run the problem that text only news servers will drop
those messages from text groups - hence messing up the threading for
some readers.

Ironically, with the Berlin server and Thunderbird, that post was fine
- simply it was formatted in a different-to-usual font. But I agree
with you through and through.

Turnpike gives me the option of viewing the MIME version (though it has
by design limited HTML rendering), or a plain text version (without all
the HTML stuff). I'd expect any modern client to do similar.

Can't say it bothers me, life is too short.




--
Chris French