Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut
to 'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?




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On Thursday 23 January 2014 19:15 The Medway Handyman wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut
to 'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


They probably did - I expect it was green-screened! And the backdrop was
probably library footage - cynical, moi?

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Hmm, or just put the right picture behind whoever is reading the item.
Yes, you normally only go there if there is some people to talk to or
whatever. Strange.

My local paper has it covered. They sit in their offices ring up people in
the area and get the story from a few, and cheekily ask them to send in
their mobile phone pictures w which then appear in the paper apparently.
Brian

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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut to
'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?




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The Medway Handyman scribbled...


Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut
to 'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


They are not just presenters, they're journalists and as such they need
to research the story. You don't think the BBC would get their stories
from the local paper, ****ter or Failbook do you?

Brian Gaff scribbled...


Hmm, or just put the right picture behind whoever is reading the item.
Yes, you normally only go there if there is some people to talk to or
whatever. Strange.

My local paper has it covered. They sit in their offices ring up people in
the area and get the story from a few, and cheekily ask them to send in
their mobile phone pictures w which then appear in the paper apparently.
Brian


And people wonder why sales of newspapers are dropping through the
floor.

On 23/01/2014 21:18, Artic wrote:
You don't think the BBC would get their stories
from the local paper, ****ter or Failbook do you?


The usual ploy on local radio is to have a phone in program where people
can complain about local services. The (non) story then appears all of
the next day as the main item in the news.

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 21:18:27 -0000, Artic wrote:

The Medway Handyman scribbled...


Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut
to 'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


They are not just presenters, they're journalists and as such they need
to research the story. You don't think the BBC would get their stories
from the local paper, ****ter or Failbook do you?

Half of them seem to be weather presenters who having been whittled
down /got pregnant taken maternity leave/paid off etc seem to worm
their way back in and get little jobs like this awarded to them.

G.Harman

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to get
the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.

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scribbled...



Half of them seem to be weather presenters who having been whittled
down /got pregnant taken maternity leave/paid off etc seem to worm
their way back in and get little jobs like this awarded to them.


Most weather presenters started out doing other tv jobs. Letterbox gob
Sian Lloyd knew sod all about the weather before she got the ITV gig.

Dave Plowman (News) scribbled...


In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to get
the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.


It wouldn't be tv then, would it!

Doh.

On 24/01/14 02:28, Artic wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) scribbled...


In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to get
the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.


It wouldn't be tv then, would it!

Doh.

I often listen to the TV news, but seldom actually watch it


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On 23 Jan 2014, "Dave Plowman (News)" grunted:

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to
get the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.

I was watching the BBC News at Ten last night, and funnily enough mentioned
this issue to SWMBO. The political reporter Nick Robinson was reporting on
something 'political', and as usual was standing outside 10 Downing St to
do so. Nothing else was happening on screen; it was a live picture judging
by the occasionally movements in the background of Plod on sentry duty (and
presumably with all the new 'honesty/transparancy' guidelines at the Beeb
these days they wouldn't be allowed to pretend otherwise).

How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to stand
in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at home and do it
via Skype...


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In article , Lobster
scribeth thus
On 23 Jan 2014, "Dave Plowman (News)" grunted:

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to
get the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.

I was watching the BBC News at Ten last night, and funnily enough mentioned
this issue to SWMBO. The political reporter Nick Robinson was reporting on
something 'political', and as usual was standing outside 10 Downing St to
do so. Nothing else was happening on screen; it was a live picture judging
by the occasionally movements in the background of Plod on sentry duty (and
presumably with all the new 'honesty/transparancy' guidelines at the Beeb
these days they wouldn't be allowed to pretend otherwise).



Have you ever thought they might have him in the studio and are back
projecting him with the downing street background;?...

How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to stand
in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at home and do it
via Skype...

If his broadband is up to it of course. They do often go out get a clip
and then transfer it back to base via a 3G card, may take a little time
but it does work if you can get a 3G signal thats good enough...




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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:28:17 +0000, tony sayer wrote:

I was watching the BBC News at Ten last night, and funnily enough
mentioned this issue to SWMBO. The political reporter Nick Robinson was
reporting on something 'political', and as usual was standing outside 10
Downing St to do so. Nothing else was happening on screen; it was a
live picture judging by the occasionally movements in the background of
Plod on sentry duty (and presumably with all the new
'honesty/transparancy' guidelines at the Beeb these days they wouldn't
be allowed to pretend otherwise).

Have you ever thought they might have him in the studio and are back
projecting him with the downing street background;?...

It'd probably require him to go further from where he's been all day to
sit "in the studio". He probably spends all day in/around the Palace of
Westminster and Portcullis House, which are about five minutes wander
from Downing St.

two second google
Oh, wait - the Beeb's political unit are actually based right next door
to the Palace of Westminster anyway. Makes sense. So it's merely a
question of two people walking five minutes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/aboutbbcnews/hi/this_is_bbc_news/
newsid_3280000/3280775.stm

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut to
'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


Why do they need two news presenters?

On 24/01/2014 08:27, Lobster wrote:
On 23 Jan 2014, "Dave Plowman (News)" grunted:

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to
get the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.

I was watching the BBC News at Ten last night, and funnily enough mentioned
this issue to SWMBO. The political reporter Nick Robinson was reporting on
something 'political', and as usual was standing outside 10 Downing St to
do so. Nothing else was happening on screen; it was a live picture judging
by the occasionally movements in the background of Plod on sentry duty (and
presumably with all the new 'honesty/transparancy' guidelines at the Beeb
these days they wouldn't be allowed to pretend otherwise).

How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to stand
in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at home and do it
via Skype...



Any sign of the cat?

In article , harryagain
scribeth thus

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut to
'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


Why do they need two news presenters?


Very good point Harry, seems the bloke and bird are fashionable
nowadays..

Seems the bird is there to keep the male interest, just in case she
accidentally hitches her skirt too high..
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On 24/01/14 09:44, Adrian wrote:
He probably spends all day in/around the Palace of
Westminster and Portcullis House, which are about five minutes wander
from Downing St.

I thought he spent all his time down the pub!


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diminishing number of producers.

On Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:13:44 PM UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:
Hmm, or just put the right picture behind whoever is reading the item.

Yes, you normally only go there if there is some people to talk to or

whatever. Strange.



My local paper has it covered. They sit in their offices ring up people in

the area and get the story from a few, and cheekily ask them to send in

their mobile phone pictures w which then appear in the paper apparently.

Brian


Your local paper works hard, ours, Edinburgh Evening News gets all its `news` from facebook, saves travel expenses suppose.

Problem becoming of course that its dwindling band of readers just use the website rather than buy a pile of advertising and printed facebook edits for 60p.

Online comments generally more accurate and insightful than the story anyway.


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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message

...

Just been watching BBC News South East.



1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown

pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.



Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter

standing in completely empty country lane.



Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'

presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.



Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut to

'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.



Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on

expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.



Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?









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Lobster scribbled...


On 23 Jan 2014, "Dave Plowman (News)" grunted:

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?

They are reporters, not presenters. Who presumably are at the scene to
get the latest news. If they were in the studio why not have the main
presenter just read their bit and save even more money? Or, of course,
save even more money by doing it without pictures. Ie radio.

I was watching the BBC News at Ten last night, and funnily enough mentioned
this issue to SWMBO. The political reporter Nick Robinson was reporting on
something 'political', and as usual was standing outside 10 Downing St to
do so. Nothing else was happening on screen; it was a live picture judging
by the occasionally movements in the background of Plod on sentry duty (and
presumably with all the new 'honesty/transparancy' guidelines at the Beeb
these days they wouldn't be allowed to pretend otherwise).

How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to stand
in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at home and do it
via Skype...


He would have been speaking to the Downing Street press officer before
going on the box. The press office run a lot of briefings which are
never televised. The reporters have to be there to get the information.

I do wonder at times how ****ing thick some people on Usenet are.

In article sting.com,
Artic wrote:
How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to
stand in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at
home and do it via Skype...


He would have been speaking to the Downing Street press officer before
going on the box. The press office run a lot of briefings which are
never televised. The reporters have to be there to get the information.

I do wonder at times how ****ing thick some people on Usenet are.

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most common
questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those people do'
referring to those not actually working during a take. And of course they
had no interest in an answer.

It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on the
beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to cost 20
grand?'

Basically, everyone watches TV so think they are an expert on all aspects
of it. ;-)

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Huge scribbled...


On 2014-01-24, Artic wrote:

I do wonder at times how ****ing thick some people on Usenet are.

Yeah, me too.

*plonk*


I do love the people who make a song and ****ing dance of plonking
posters. Bet you've also been known to flounce out of ng too.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:53:33 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most common
questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those people do'
referring to those not actually working during a take. And of course
they had no interest in an answer.

Having kicked about on the edges of sets whilst various of our vehicles
have been used (tv, tv ads), I have to admit that I haven't got a ****ing
clue what two-thirds of 'em were doing. Nor, it seemed, did they. There
was an AWFUL lot of standing around looking important.

Dave Plowman (News) scribbled...


In article sting.com,
Artic wrote:
How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to
stand in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at
home and do it via Skype...


He would have been speaking to the Downing Street press officer before
going on the box. The press office run a lot of briefings which are
never televised. The reporters have to be there to get the information.

I do wonder at times how ****ing thick some people on Usenet are.

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most common
questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those people do'
referring to those not actually working during a take. And of course they
had no interest in an answer.

It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on the
beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to cost 20
grand?'

Basically, everyone watches TV so think they are an expert on all aspects
of it. ;-)


My brother works on the railway. He's lost count of the number of
comments in newspapers and elsewhere, asking what are the lazy, useless
railwaymen standing around when the trains go past.

He's also given up counting how many times he's been sprayed with ****e
standing 10 foot away from passing trains.

In article ,
Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:53:33 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most common
questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those people do'
referring to those not actually working during a take. And of course
they had no interest in an answer.

Having kicked about on the edges of sets whilst various of our vehicles
have been used (tv, tv ads), I have to admit that I haven't got a
****ing clue what two-thirds of 'em were doing. Nor, it seemed, did
they. There was an AWFUL lot of standing around looking important.

Construction crafts (chippies, etc) may have to get their work done before
filming starts. And be there to remove it after it finishes. So can well
be hanging around while the actual filming takes place. Same with things
like make-up. That has to be done before filming starts - and the makeup
person 'hangs around' to make sure it is ok throughout the shooting.

And you were also a prime example - you brought a vehicle to the location
and were waiting to take it away after it was finished with. Boring, isn't
it? ;-)

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On 24/01/14 14:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article sting.com,
Artic wrote:
How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to
stand in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at
home and do it via Skype...


He would have been speaking to the Downing Street press officer before
going on the box. The press office run a lot of briefings which are
never televised. The reporters have to be there to get the information.

I do wonder at times how ****ing thick some people on Usenet are.

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most common
questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those people do'
referring to those not actually working during a take. And of course they
had no interest in an answer.

It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on the
beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to cost 20
grand?'

Basically, everyone watches TV so think they are an expert on all aspects
of it. ;-)


Yerrs. I am a keen amateur photographer and have often outperformed the
professionals *outside* at the wedding reception etc.

But when it comes to a studio portrait, without all the lighting and ten
years of experience, the pros win hands down every time...as do the
wildlife photographers and paparazzi with lenses I can only dream of..

mostly you can do a fair job..with limited people and kit, but to do a
pro job in all weathers and conditions..takes more.




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members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:04:11 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most
common questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those
people do' referring to those not actually working during a take. And
of course they had no interest in an answer.

Having kicked about on the edges of sets whilst various of our vehicles
have been used (tv, tv ads), I have to admit that I haven't got a
****ing clue what two-thirds of 'em were doing. Nor, it seemed, did
they. There was an AWFUL lot of standing around looking important.

Construction crafts (chippies, etc) may have to get their work done
before filming starts. And be there to remove it after it finishes. So
can well be hanging around while the actual filming takes place. Same
with things like make-up. That has to be done before filming starts -
and the makeup person 'hangs around' to make sure it is ok throughout
the shooting.

And you were also a prime example - you brought a vehicle to the
location and were waiting to take it away after it was finished with.
Boring, isn't it? ;-)

Oh, yes. But there's plenty of tea and bacon sarnies on tap, at the very
least.

On 24/01/2014 14:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on the
beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to cost 20
grand?'

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

On 24/01/2014 17:15, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


But when it comes to a studio portrait, without all the lighting and ten
years of experience, the pros win hands down every time...as do the
wildlife photographers and paparazzi with lenses I can only dream of..

I have access to an 1800mm lens, useless for paparazzi pictures but
works well as a telescope (as it should as that's what it is).

You can do wild life a fair distance away with it but I just put the
remote on the camera and dump it closer to the wild life.

Even the cheap aldi spotting scope will give pictures as good as the
ones in the newspaper, even using an afocal camera phone.

In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on
the beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to
cost 20 grand?'

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

Lenses. They haven't been effected much by electronics tumbling in price.

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On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:09:42 +0000, Artic wrote:

I do love the people who make a song and ****ing dance of plonking
posters. Bet you've also been known to flounce out of ng too.

*plonk*

****ing ******.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:27:06 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

Because the BBC has a licence to commit extortion and they don't give a
monkey's about saving your money.

On 24/01/14 19:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on
the beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to
cost 20 grand?'

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

Lenses. They haven't been effected much by electronics tumbling in price.

no, normally they are effected by a grinding machine and careful design....


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 24/01/2014 19:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on
the beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to
cost 20 grand?'

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

Lenses. They haven't been effected much by electronics tumbling in price.


They aren't exactly built to the optical limits and good zooms don't
cost anywhere near £20k.

In message sting.com,
Artic writes
The Medway Handyman scribbled...


Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut
to 'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


They are not just presenters, they're journalists and as such they need
to research the story. You don't think the BBC would get their stories
from the local paper, ****ter or Failbook do you?

Not according top Kate Aidie they're not.
--
bert

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article sting.com,
Artic wrote:
How utterly pointless to have to travel all the way to Downing St to
stand in the drizzle at 10pm, when he could just as easily sit at
home and do it via Skype...


He would have been speaking to the Downing Street press officer before
going on the box. The press office run a lot of briefings which are
never televised. The reporters have to be there to get the information.

I do wonder at times how ****ing thick some people on Usenet are.

My career was TV, and if 'filming' on location, one of the most common
questions asked by the public would be 'what do all those people do'
referring to those not actually working during a take. And of course they
had no interest in an answer.

It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on the
beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to cost 20
grand?'

Basically, everyone watches TV so think they are an expert on all aspects
of it. ;-)

So how come ITV can do it on a fraction of the number?
--
bert

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writes
In article , harryagain
scribeth thus

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
Just been watching BBC News South East.

1st story was about a girl injured at an Ashford school by a thrown
pencil. Cut to 'live' reporter standing outside closed school.

Next was the fracking debate in Balcombe. Cut to 'live' presenter
standing in completely empty country lane.

Followed by baggage handler convicted of drug smuggling. Cut to 'live'
presenter standing outside the (closed) Old Bailey.

Last item - a school in Dartford that had shown great improvement. Cut to
'live' reporter standing outside another closed school.

Four different presenters in four different locations, no doubt on
expenses, all freezing their nuts off, for no apparent reason.

Why can't they do this from the studio & save the travel expenses?


Why do they need two news presenters?


Very good point Harry, seems the bloke and bird are fashionable
nowadays..

Seems the bird is there to keep the male interest, just in case she
accidentally hitches her skirt too high..
Or leans forward leers at the camera and show her tits.
--
bert

In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
On 24/01/2014 19:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on
the beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to
cost 20 grand?'

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

Lenses. They haven't been effected much by electronics tumbling in
price.


They aren't exactly built to the optical limits and good zooms don't
cost anywhere near £20k.

You think one lens is enough for TV production?

--
*Kill one man and you're a murderer, kill a million youand 're a conqueror.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 25/01/2014 00:11, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
On 24/01/2014 19:21, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article m,
dennis@home wrote:
It's all similar to saying 'my HD camcorder takes perfect pictures on
the beach and cost a hundred quid. Why does a broadcast one need to
cost 20 grand?'

Why does it need to cost £20k?

You can get a 4k one for that sort of money these days.

Lenses. They haven't been effected much by electronics tumbling in
price.


They aren't exactly built to the optical limits and good zooms don't
cost anywhere near £20k.

You think one lens is enough for TV production?

Come on now Dave. What would you know compared to Dennis?

Just because you spent your entire working life in the industry, doesn't
mean you know more about it than he does.

Get a grip man :-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Lenses. They haven't been effected much by electronics tumbling in
price.


They aren't exactly built to the optical limits and good zooms don't
cost anywhere near £20k.

You think one lens is enough for TV production?

Come on now Dave. What would you know compared to Dennis?

Just because you spent your entire working life in the industry, doesn't
mean you know more about it than he does.

Get a grip man :-)

I'm sure I'm not up to date now - but some things don't change much.
Lenses seem to be one of them. ;-)

Over my career I've seen several 'new brooms' come in and think they know
better ways of doing things. The one common thing about them was they had
little or no experience of what they were hoping to do. All theory.
What they don't seem to have been told is broadcasting was always
technology lead - with those using it grabbing new technology with
enthusiasm. (Of course that's not to say they won't try and lever a pay
rise out of it). Not like, say, the print where some wanted things never
to change.

--
*After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.