Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years ago
which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst to me)
and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back in my own
name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't renew it this
year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain registrant and
website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.
--
Dave Baker

On 22/01/2014 08:04, Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back
in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't
renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain
registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

The first one you can use immediately to grab back your domain before
some other scrote hijacks it again. You need to define "best" as
cheapest, reliable, helpful, facilities and bandwidth allowed.

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Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years ago
which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst to me)
and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back in my own
name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't renew it this
year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain registrant and
website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

123 will be quick and easy to get it registered, there won't be any
hassle from them to move it elsewhere in future, I've never used 123 for
hosting as they don't seem cheap for it.

if it's urgent get it registered, then worry about hosting and possibly
moving the registrar later ...

In message , Andy
Burns writes
Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years ago
which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst to me)
and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back in my own
name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't renew it this
year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain registrant and
website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

123 will be quick and easy to get it registered, there won't be any
hassle from them to move it elsewhere in future, I've never used 123
for hosting as they don't seem cheap for it.

if it's urgent get it registered, then worry about hosting and possibly
moving the registrar later ...



I use fasthosts
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bert

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:32:18 +0000, bert wrote:

I use fasthosts

Rearrange these words into a famous phrase or saying:

a I pole with barge touch wouldn't Fasthosts

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On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:51:11 +0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:32:18 +0000, bert wrote:

I use fasthosts

Rearrange these words into a famous phrase or saying:

a I pole with barge touch wouldn't Fasthosts

+1

I had to go to Nominet to wrest a domain from them.



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On Friday 24 January 2014 00:42 Bob Eager wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Back on 123-Reg.

Their stuff works but I do not find them the easiest to work with. Their
control panel is nice but occasionally buggy (sticks/gets confused).

The worst bit for me is there is not API and/or batch update facility. I
have a lot of domains for work - though fortunately nearly all just have
a couple of CNAMEs so it is tolerable.

If I was using a DNS host full on I'd want a batch facility - it would
be easier to host a Linode, run bind and use vim compared to a flashy
but clucky web interface.

The other niggle is there is no fine grained control - eg TTL.

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In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 23:32:18 +0000, bert wrote:

I use fasthosts

Rearrange these words into a famous phrase or saying:

a I pole with barge touch wouldn't Fasthosts

Well I've had no problems with domain name registration. Very reasonable
prices and free web forwarding and e-mail forwarding. Advance notice of
renewals, automatic or manual, advance notice of credit card expiry
date.
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"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years ago
which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst to me)
and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back in my own
name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't renew it this
year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain registrant and
website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.
--
Dave Baker

Bugger. No it isn't available. Still, I'd be happy to get advice on domain
hosters in case it does come up again next year.

Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember you
using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the horse's
mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

On 22/01/14 08:25, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember you
using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the horse's
mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

howebver that des remidn me:

Nominet are pretty good in arbitrating these matters and if you were to
approach them directly showing that the domain in question is in fact
'yours' you should be able to take over the domain directly with them.


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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 22/01/14 08:25, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember you
using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the horse's
mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

howebver that des remidn me:

Nominet are pretty good in arbitrating these matters and if you were to
approach them directly showing that the domain in question is in fact
'yours' you should be able to take over the domain directly with them.

I guess I could maybe get it back if I fought hard enough but I'm not sure
I'm up for more hassle. I could set up a similar sounding domain and given
how long my original one has been "off air" now it probably wouldn't make
too much difference to potential customers, many of whom won't even know the
first domain. Bit of a ****er though after having it for so many years.
That's what comes of doing business with friends I suppose.
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On Wednesday 22 January 2014 16:45 Dave Baker wrote in uk.d-i-y:

That's what comes of doing business with friends

Yes - best avoided...

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In message , Dave Baker
writes

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 22/01/14 08:25, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember you
using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the horse's
mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

howebver that des remidn me:

Nominet are pretty good in arbitrating these matters and if you were
to approach them directly showing that the domain in question is in
fact 'yours' you should be able to take over the domain directly with


I guess I could maybe get it back if I fought hard enough but I'm not
sure I'm up for more hassle. I could set up a similar sounding domain
and given how long my original one has been "off air" now it probably
wouldn't make too much difference to potential customers, many of whom
won't even know the first domain. Bit of a ****er though after having
it for so many years. That's what comes of doing business with friends
I suppose.
There's no fighting involved. You get one shot at providing your
evidence and then they decide behind closed doors. No appeal.
--
bert

In article , Dave Baker
writes

I guess I could maybe get it back if I fought hard enough

You could consider an alternative. pumaracing.com is taken, registered
via a dodgy-looking private whois registrar in Panamá, but
pumaracing.org and pumaracing.org.uk are available.

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On 22/01/2014 16:45, Dave Baker wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 22/01/14 08:25, Andy Burns wrote:
Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember you
using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the horse's
mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

howebver that des remidn me:

Nominet are pretty good in arbitrating these matters and if you were
to approach them directly showing that the domain in question is in
fact 'yours' you should be able to take over the domain directly with
them.

I guess I could maybe get it back if I fought hard enough but I'm not
sure I'm up for more hassle. I could set up a similar sounding domain
and given how long my original one has been "off air" now it probably
wouldn't make too much difference to potential customers, many of whom
won't even know the first domain. Bit of a ****er though after having it
for so many years. That's what comes of doing business with friends I
suppose.

I did this myself a while ago, and I don't recall it being much of a
hurdle. It wasn't that expensive.

I would have thought words with your friend would have been "I'll
register it for you", implying he would be just a conduit?

Is he still trading? Perhaps a blog publishing the email exchanges
might embarrass him into submission!

In message , Andy
Burns writes
Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember
you using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the
horse's mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

As it is a .co.uk domain yo could use nominet's dispute procedure. If
the domain content was obviously about your company and you paid for the
domain then you have a good chance of getting it back assuming it is
your "friend" who still currently holds it.
--
bert

On 22/01/14 23:30, bert wrote:
In message , Andy
Burns writes
Dave Baker wrote:

Bugger. No it isn't available.

I was going to say I just checked, and if it's the domain I remember
you using, it's not available, the easy way to check direct from the
horse's mouth is

http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois/lookup?query=pumaracing.co.uk

As it is a .co.uk domain yo could use nominet's dispute procedure. If
the domain content was obviously about your company and you paid for the
domain then you have a good chance of getting it back assuming it is
your "friend" who still currently holds it.

+1.

nominet are so damned reasonable its a pleasure to know.


You dont need to have a DNS entry or a host to 'own' a domain.

All you need is a code that says you own it. In essence it is an entry
in the (nominet) database that says 'the name servers for this domain
are here'...and that can be a null, plus contact information for the
site admin and owner.

The minimal 123-reg setup is a DNS server record that doesn't need to do
any more than say 'I am the DNS server for this domain'


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 22/01/2014 08:19, Dave Baker wrote:

"Dave Baker" wrote in message
...
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain
back in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he
didn't renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the
best domain registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.
--
Dave Baker

Bugger. No it isn't available. Still, I'd be happy to get advice on
domain hosters in case it does come up again next year.

These are the people I use. The owner used to service my business
computers before he moved into web hosting. They are knowledgeable,
helpful and friendly IME.

https://www.edgehosting.co.uk/

Colin Bignell

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:19:49 -0000, "Dave Baker"
wrote:


Bugger. No it isn't available. Still, I'd be happy to get advice on domain
hosters in case it does come up again next year.

Have a look at http://www.domainmonster.com/backorder/. They can track
it for you and grab it on your behalf if it becomes available. I tried
them last year but the domain I was interested in was renewed at the
last minute. You don't have to pay anything unless they are
successful.

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:04:07 -0000, Dave Baker wrote:

What's the best domain registrant and website hoster?

I've got a couple fo domains with 123, but only as registrar and DNS.
There is no need to use the hosting that the registrar offers just
configure the DNS to point at the relevant host(s), mail servers etc.

I managed to get a .com back under my control after it expired
because the hosting co hadn't sent me a reminder and wouldn't answer
emails, phone etc. Took a while and a bit of digging to find out
which registrar they were reselling and a bit of form filling from
the registrar but got there in the end.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Wednesday 22 January 2014 08:04 Dave Baker wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain
back in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he
didn't renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the
best domain registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1,
123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

123 Reg are reasonably competant -
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On 22/01/2014 09:26, Tim Watts wrote:
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 08:04 Dave Baker wrote in uk.d-i-y:

Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain
back in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he
didn't renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the
best domain registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1,
123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

123 Reg are reasonably competant -

It depends on the area IME...

For domain registrations, yup agreed - still good.

For hosting - static HTML - fine. Anything more complicated - especially
with a database back end - the hosting is astonishingly slow. They look
the part, have a control panel that lets you install 60 - 70 odd common
applications at the click of a button, but frequently you find they then
don't work as installed, or the rest of the server stack is not
configured in a way that makes them work effectively.

Email hosting - so so. Lots of flexibility in creating mailboxes and
forwards - but the web site control is slow and flaky. Often if a
mailbox gets too large (and there is no way to report on the size of the
mailbox) it just stops working and you can't log in.

Tech support - their ticket system works ok, but frequently they seem
incapable of reading. Also don't ask more than one question per ticket
since they never seem to read to the end. On the phone they are better.

Billing and admin - generally ok.


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On 22/01/14 08:04, Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back
in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't
renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain
registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

I've used 123 for ages. Its good enough


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 22/01/2014 08:04, Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back
in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't
renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain
registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Can't say I would recommend 123-reg at the moment - I have used them for
years, but I am getting somewhat fed up with them for various reasons.

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On 22/01/2014 08:04, Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back
in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't
renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain
registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

Register it with 123 or easily.net or whoever then you simply point it
at wherever you host. Even your "free" space if your ISP gives you
enough space to make it worthwhile.


Pete@
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On 22/01/2014 17:24, www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

Register it with 123 or easily.net

Sorry, meant easily.co.uk been using them for domain names since 1999
while hosting has flitted around a few companies over the years.

On 22/01/2014 08:04, Dave Baker wrote:
Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years
ago which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst
to me) and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back
in my own name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't
renew it this year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain
registrant and website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

Most important thing is to avoid those which make it awkward, difficult
or expensive to do whatever you want with it in future. Also decent,
timely reminders of renewal can be very important.

Personally I use Easily - largely inertia but I have no reason to move.
Work - we use GoDaddy and have had lots of issues with several others.

--
Rod

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:04:07 -0000, "Dave Baker"
wrote:

Long story short. I let a "friend" host my business website some years ago
which involved him putting the domain in his own name (unbeknownst to me)
and then he stopped hosting it and I couldn't get my domain back in my own
name. Just spotted it's free again as apparently he didn't renew it this
year so I need to grab it urgently. What's the best domain registrant and
website hoster? GoDaddy, 1&1, 123-reg.co.uk?

Any advice welcome.

I have had to move all of my domains from "xyz", they became
progressively worse in terms of server availability, failing control
panel and response dropping to zero since October last. After some
fast searching I decided on Vidahost and have to say I am delighted
with their customer service (amazing fast response to tickets 24/7)
and very usable control panel - pricing is good too. They are fairly
new but look set for a good future if they carry on the way they are
now.

Mike
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