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Toolsatan oddity
Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a
Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. AFAIK they are not actually legal tender in England so it's entirely up to them. I wonder if some banks actually charge to accept them. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 03/11/2013 21:50, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. AFAIK they are not actually legal tender in England so it's entirely up to them. I wonder if some banks actually charge to accept them. It is also much more likely that staff who are unfamiliar with them, and quite likely don't have any others for comparison, could be taken in by even poor quality dodgy Scottish notes. -- Rod |
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On 03/11/2013 21:18, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. Went to Western Scotland this summer - made sure that I disn't bring any Scottish notes with me - just before I returned I asked for an English note in change - no problem |
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ AB |
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On Monday, 4 November 2013 00:43:59 UTC, Archibald wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ We got given a Scottish tenner as change last Wednesday at a B & Q. I handed it over and asked for a "real one" instead. The guy on the 'till began to baulk, but when I explained, loudly, that it wasn't legal tender, that there was no way either of us could know if it was a fake or not and, further, it was unlikely I'd be able to fob it off on anyone else, he caved. As I walked away I heard the next mug/customer say, "And don't try giving it to me either" |
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On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ AB Talking of TS staff, the girl that served me recently looked really weird. This was before Halloween, but she looked like she'd dressed up well in advance. I was expecting the worst but she was super fast, polite, and extremely pleasant to deal with. Must control those prejudices of mine! |
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On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? |
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"stuart noble" wrote in message ... On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ AB Talking of TS staff, the girl that served me recently looked really weird. This was before Halloween, but she looked like she'd dressed up well in advance. I was expecting the worst but she was super fast, polite, and extremely pleasant to deal with. Must control those prejudices of mine! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banknot...h ern_Ireland |
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Andrew May wrote:
On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? Not for the company, but if you work less than a certain number of hours a week, you become eligible for some benefits that are refused otherwise, so it can pay you more per week to work 19 hours than 25. When you're on the legal minimum wage as most shop workers are, this is important. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On Monday, November 4, 2013 9:47:21 AM UTC, Andrew May wrote:
Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? Yes - no employer's national insurance contributions to pay if they can keep the weekly wage below £148. I think that's about a 13% saving to the employer. http://www.cwu.org/news/archive/chan...ency-pay..html It does mean that those workers aren't contributing to their state pension but that's their problem in the future, not the employers' problem now. Working over 16 hours a week disqualifies eligibility for JSA or ESA, working less than 30 hours a week usually disqualifies eligibility for working tax credits. It's not a good deal for employees. Owain |
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On 03/11/2013 21:18, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. A business is not obliged to accept them in the England. AFAIK they are not actually obliged to in Scotland either. -- Peter Crosland |
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On 03/11/2013 21:50, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. AFAIK they are not actually legal tender in England so it's entirely up to them. I wonder if some banks actually charge to accept them. They don't charge any more for accepting Scottish or Irish notes than they do for Bank of England notes. -- Peter Crosland |
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On Monday, November 4, 2013 9:47:21 AM UTC, Andrew May wrote:
On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? It's an extention of zero hour contracts. Employ them for 20 hours, keep them on when it's busy, send them home when it goes quiet. It's the wonders of globalisation and immigration. Staff have become a commodity. |
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On Monday, 4 November 2013 11:13:29 UTC, John Williamson wrote:
Andrew May wrote: On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? Not for the company, I thought companies didn;t have top contribute to yuor pension scheme and tehre were some other NI benifits for teh employer if they employed staff under 20 hours per week, but maybe it's changed since the 90s. but if you work less than a certain number of hours a week, you become eligible for some benefits that are refused otherwise, so it can pay you more per week to work 19 hours than 25. When you're on the legal minimum wage as most shop workers are, this is important. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, 4 November 2013 11:13:29 UTC, John Williamson wrote: Andrew May wrote: On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? Not for the company, I thought companies didn;t have top contribute to yuor pension scheme and tehre were some other NI benifits for teh employer if they employed staff under 20 hours per week, but maybe it's changed since the 90s. Or it's been so long since I had anything to do with the benefits system (Mid '80s?) that I've misremembered the details, which have likely changed anyway. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 04/11/2013 13:40, Huge wrote:
On 2013-11-04, Peter Crosland wrote: On 03/11/2013 21:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. A business is not obliged to accept them in the England. AFAIK they are not actually obliged to in Scotland either. No-one is obliged to accept them anywhere. Legally speaking, they aren't actually money. OTOH, I have never had trouble spending them and have no qualms about accepting them. I'm happy with Scottish notes, but did make sure we got rid of the NI ones before we crossed back. |
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On 04/11/2013 09:47, Andrew May wrote:
On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? It means you have twice the staff so if one is off there is less disruption. |
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On 04/11/2013 19:28, dennis@home wrote:
On 04/11/2013 09:47, Andrew May wrote: On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? It means you have twice the staff so if one is off there is less disruption. But twice as many staff are likely to be off... -- Rod |
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On 04/11/2013 19:43, polygonum wrote:
On 04/11/2013 19:28, dennis@home wrote: On 04/11/2013 09:47, Andrew May wrote: On 04/11/2013 00:43, Archibald wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. He went to the Screwfix next door & they accepted it no problem. I think you may find that this link explains it. https://vacancies.toolstationjobs.com/site/ Do they have any full time sales staff. All sales assistant positions listed there are fore 20hrs per week or less. Is there some advantage to having more staff on less hours? It means you have twice the staff so if one is off there is less disruption. But twice as many staff are likely to be off... Not true. The illness rate may be double but holidays, etc. are a little more organized. Anyway just because there is twice the likelihood of someone being off ill doesn't mean there is twice the likelihood of two being off together. |
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Simple answer to all of the above? Pay any such staff in Scottish bank notes? Job done nice one. As a result the production of Scottish bank notes rises and RBS gets out of jail free and clear? Now all we have to consider is the English owned Bank of Scotland? [ Lloyds banking Group] There is the possibility that RBS may also be owned by an English company ? ? |
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On Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:50:13 PM UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 21:18:57 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: Desmond went into our local Toolsatan to order something & proffered a Scottish £5 note. They refused to accept it. AFAIK they are not actually legal tender in England They're not legal tender in Scotland either. That is a lot less significant than you think. "Legal tender" means (roughly) money that you can pay into court to settle litigation. so it's entirely up to them. Whether or not they are legal tender, it is entirely up to them whether they accept them or not. One pound coins are legal tender in any amount, but I think you'd find most shops would refuse to accept them to pay £1000 bill. See http://www.royalmint.com/aboutus/pol...der-guidelines |
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On Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:51:43 UTC, Martin Bonner wrote:
I think you'd find most shops would refuse to accept them to pay £1000 bill. I don't think I would have much trouble receiving a thousand quid off anyone who wanted to pour it my way. (Name and address supplied to anyone interested in the protocol; TIA.) |
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