anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

Makita have similar for similar...

Jim K

Jim K writes:

anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

I have one (probably an earlier model). Its fine. A minor
inconvenience on my model is that the front handle is a very
close fit over the bit release ring, so getting the handle on
and off is more fiddly than one might hope. It can be a bit
fierce when the hammer kicks in when using it as a chisel (push
chisel agains target €” nothing much happens, push a bit harder
and youve taken off a huge chunk), but in my limited experience
of SDS drills, theyre all like that.

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On 17/03/2013 08:23, Jim K wrote:
anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

Makita have similar for similar...

Jim K

Often wondered about the Sparky brand. Unknown but top money. Made in
Bulgaria.

Made me laugh watching a Nationwide (/) advert where hapless DIY husband
drills through water pipe - using a Sparky drill.


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Jon Fairbairn wrote:

Jim K writes:

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

A minor inconvenience on my model is that the front handle is a very
close fit over the bit release ring, so getting the handle on and off
is more fiddly than one might hope.

That's true of my Makita too.

Not the best of names for any electrical appliance. ;-)

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On 17/03/2013 14:00, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Not the best of names for any electrical appliance. ;-)

Shows my age - but always makes me think Magic Piano. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3etiNLAFi0

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On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 01:23:09 -0700, Jim K wrote:

anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

Makita have similar for similar...

Jim K

I've had one of that model for about four years now and it has happily
dealt with everything I needed. That includes drilling, demolition and
chasing. Also plaster/mortar mixing with a big paddle.

My builder mate used it a few times and was quite impressed too. I was
swayed by the magnesium gearbox, but as I don't know what other gearboxes
are made of that might not be a consideration.

Thumbs up from one happy user!





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On 17/03/2013 08:23, Jim K wrote:
anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

Based on the Sparky core drill I have, I would rather have a Makita ;-)

Makita have similar for similar...

In which case, its a "no brainer".


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On 17/03/2013 10:57, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Jim K writes:

anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

I have one (probably an earlier model). Its fine. A minor
inconvenience on my model is that the front handle is a very
close fit over the bit release ring, so getting the handle on
and off is more fiddly than one might hope. It can be a bit
fierce when the hammer kicks in when using it as a chisel (push
chisel agains target €” nothing much happens, push a bit harder
and youve taken off a huge chunk), but in my limited experience
of SDS drills, theyre all like that.

Then really you need to try a decent SDS. Decent speed control on an
accelerator trigger, and a good pneumatic SDS mechanism should allow you
to float a chisel along plaster and just knick the skim coat if that is
all you want - all under full control.


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On 17/03/2013 11:22, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 17/03/2013 08:23, Jim K wrote:
anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

Makita have similar for similar...

Jim K

Often wondered about the Sparky brand. Unknown but top money. Made in
Bulgaria.

They do seem to be pricing themselves into the wrong bracket now. There
was a time when I bought the couple of sparky tools I have, they were in
the not quite pro money range (i.e. my core drill - about £100 cheaper
than a proper one) or not available in the disposable tool range at all
(wall chaser).

Made me laugh watching a Nationwide (/) advert where hapless DIY husband
drills through water pipe - using a Sparky drill.

Perhaps the producer did not want to ruin a good one ;-)


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On Mar 17, 7:33*pm, John Rumm wrote:
On 17/03/2013 08:23, Jim K wrote:

anyone rate this?

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823

Based on the Sparky core drill I have, I would rather have a Makita ;-)

Makita have similar for similar...

In which case, its a "no brainer".

yup ;)

Cheers
Jim K

On Sunday, 17 March 2013 10:57:50 UTC, Jon Fairbairn wrote:
Jim K writes:



anyone rate this?



http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p19823



I have one (probably an earlier model). It’s fine. A minor

inconvenience on my model is that the front handle is a very

close fit over the bit release ring, so getting the handle on

and off is more fiddly than one might hope. It can be a bit

fierce when the hammer kicks in when using it as a chisel (push

chisel agains target — nothing much happens, push a bit harder

and you’ve taken off a huge chunk), but in my limited experience

of SDS drills, they’re all like that.

The more expensive ones aren't. My DeWalt can range from a light tap through to full fury on its variable trigger, and Makita and Hitachi ones I've tried are the same. Really quite delicate work is possible.

To the OP: If Makita do something similar, why get the Sparky? Or you can get a DeWalt for similar too (e.g., http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p10000...uct_info.html).


dan.

On Mar 18, 9:33*am, wrote:

To the OP: If Makita do something similar, why get the Sparky?

er... I'm asking for opinions on Sparky...

Or you can get a DeWalt for similar too (e.g.,http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p1000033/DeWalt_D25013K_240_Volt_SDS_Pl...).

why bother with dewalt when you can have a Makita? ;)

Jim K

On 18/03/2013 09:43, Jim K wrote:
On Mar 18, 9:33 am, wrote:

To the OP: If Makita do something similar, why get the Sparky?

er... I'm asking for opinions on Sparky...

Or you can get a DeWalt for similar too (e.g.,http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p1000033/DeWalt_D25013K_240_Volt_SDS_Pl...).

why bother with dewalt when you can have a Makita? ;)

Jim K

And you get to call it "The Big Mak" - as Desmond & I do :-)


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On Mar 18, 7:06*pm, The Medway Handyman
wrote:
On 18/03/2013 09:43, Jim K wrote: On Mar 18, 9:33 am, wrote:

To the OP: If Makita do something similar, why get the Sparky?

er... I'm asking for opinions on Sparky...

Or you can get a DeWalt for similar too (e.g.,http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p1000033/DeWalt_D25013K_240_Volt_SDS_Pl...).

why bother with dewalt when you can have a Makita? ;)

Jim K

And you get to call it "The Big Mak" - as Desmond & I do :-)

that's the clincher ;)

Jim K

On 18/03/2013 19:06, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 18/03/2013 09:43, Jim K wrote:
On Mar 18, 9:33 am, wrote:

To the OP: If Makita do something similar, why get the Sparky?

er... I'm asking for opinions on Sparky...

Or you can get a DeWalt for similar too
(e.g.,http://www.my-tool-shed.co.uk/p1000033/DeWalt_D25013K_240_Volt_SDS_Pl...).


why bother with dewalt when you can have a Makita? ;)

Jim K

And you get to call it "The Big Mak" - as Desmond & I do :-)


And obviously not a quarter pounder, sorry, Royale with cheese.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 02:43:25 -0700, Jim K wrote:

why bother with dewalt when you can have a Makita? ;)

had a very unimpressive Makita 2kg sds - clutch would slip at the first
sign of resistance. I've had a Bosch for the last few years which has
taken some abuse and still keeps on going.





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Especially other folk.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:33:08 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

Based on the Sparky core drill I have, I would rather have a Makita ;-)

Really? I've had one for yonks and apart from digitally-challenged[1]
associate fracking up the hammer on-off slider it's been pretty good.



[1] all thumbs ;-)



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On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:39:34 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

They do seem to be pricing themselves into the wrong bracket now. There
was a time when I bought the couple of sparky tools I have, they were in
the not quite pro money range (i.e. my core drill - about £100 cheaper
than a proper one) or not available in the disposable tool range at all
(wall chaser).


Would that (sparky wall chaser) be this one?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/sparky-fk3...ser-240v/80879

I have been using the Aldi one, which is great 99% of the time but
because it has a "circular saw" style body, it's not great for getting
into corners. I thought an "angle grinder" body style might be better.
For a long time there was only one review of the sparky on SF, which
complained about the noise and how it sounded like it was going to
pack up at any moment, which put me off buying it. However, I note
there is a second more positive review there now too. What do you
think?

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:00:50 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Not the best of names for any electrical appliance. ;-)

You all seem to be thinking of tools on fire. I thought the opposite;
I thought it was because they were tools for professional
electricians, i.e. sparkies.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:33:08 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

Based on the Sparky core drill I have, I would rather have a Makita ;-)

What's wrong with the sparky core drill? And do I need one; I just
(infrequently) use cores in my sds drill? TIA

In article ,
Fred wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:00:50 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Not the best of names for any electrical appliance. ;-)

You all seem to be thinking of tools on fire. I thought the opposite;
I thought it was because they were tools for professional
electricians, i.e. sparkies.

Sparks. Or sparklette if an apprentice.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 20/03/2013 17:41, Fred wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:39:34 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

They do seem to be pricing themselves into the wrong bracket now. There
was a time when I bought the couple of sparky tools I have, they were in
the not quite pro money range (i.e. my core drill - about £100 cheaper
than a proper one) or not available in the disposable tool range at all
(wall chaser).


Would that (sparky wall chaser) be this one?
http://www.screwfix.com/p/sparky-fk3...ser-240v/80879

Yup, that's the one...

I have been using the Aldi one, which is great 99% of the time but
because it has a "circular saw" style body, it's not great for getting
into corners. I thought an "angle grinder" body style might be better.
For a long time there was only one review of the sparky on SF, which
complained about the noise and how it sounded like it was going to
pack up at any moment, which put me off buying it. However, I note
there is a second more positive review there now too. What do you
think?

The noise on mine is exactly what you would expect from an angle
grinder. In terms of function it works well, and the dust collection (if
paired with an adequate vacuum) is very effective. Build quality is ok -
better than all plastic. As I think I have commented in the past, it has
the ergonomics of a set of bagpipes. It can't cut right to a corner, but
its not usually too difficult to finish of the last few inches with an SDS.

I think if I were looking for one at the same price point again, I would
be tempted to try:

http://www.drapertoolbox.co.uk/drape...0v-5319-120567

which looks like a better thought out layout.


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On 19/03/2013 19:59, YAPH wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:33:08 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

Based on the Sparky core drill I have, I would rather have a Makita ;-)

Really? I've had one for yonks and apart from digitally-challenged[1]
associate fracking up the hammer on-off slider it's been pretty good.

Don't get me wrong - I am not slating it. Its certainly "ok".

Construction seems fairly solid (if a little too purple and glittery),
and its got ample power. The clutch however could do with hanging on a
bit more. In reality its not that much more effective than using my 780W
Mak SDS for core drilling (which as you would expect has a clutch tuned
for drills less than 4" in diameter!). I find you still need to take a
very delicate touch in some more difficult walls.

[1] all thumbs ;-)

;-)


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On 20/03/2013 17:44, Fred wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:33:08 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

Based on the Sparky core drill I have, I would rather have a Makita ;-)

What's wrong with the sparky core drill? And do I need one; I just
(infrequently) use cores in my sds drill? TIA

See my reply to John above...


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