A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates B#4,500 in income every year from FiT,

Um, that's not efficiency, that's leeching. ;-)

Tim

Tim+ wrote:
Um, that's not efficiency, that's leeching. ;-)

Efficiency is when I replaced the roof and windows in my
flat and the tenants could keep the place warm by turning
off the heating and breathing.

JGH

On 23/10/2013 21:22, wrote:
Tim+ wrote:
Um, that's not efficiency, that's leeching. ;-)

Efficiency is when I replaced the roof and windows in my
flat and the tenants could keep the place warm by turning
off the heating and breathing.

JGH

Isn't turning off the breathing a step too far... ?

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On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:03:52 PM UTC+1, polygonum wrote:
Efficiency is when I replaced the roof and windows in my
flat and the tenants could keep the place warm by turning
Isn't turning off the breathing a step too far... ?

It's lifestyle management to reduce condensation.

Owain

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:18:07 +0000 (UTC)
Adrian wrote:

A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Until the FiT stops being available?
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On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?


But how does solar charge an electric car that is being used during the day?
Does arry only drive at night?

On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:21:00 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

But how does solar charge an electric car that is being used during the
day? Does arry only drive at night?

'arry doesn't drive much at all, day or night. 'lectric car see,
range hardly enough to get to the supermarket and back. B-)

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Dave.

On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Harry is presumably now green with envy since it is unlikely he gets
significantly more than £1500 from his 4kw array.

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Roger Chapman wrote:

On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Harry is presumably now green with envy since it is unlikely he gets
significantly more than £1500 from his 4kw array.

Have a look at
http://www.herefordshirenewleaf.org.uk/net-zero-energy-house-solar-passive-plus-pv-panels

I think it unlikely that even Harry could envy himself.

Chris
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Plant amazing Acers.

On 08/10/2013 15:30, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Chapman wrote:

On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Harry is presumably now green with envy since it is unlikely he gets
significantly more than £1500 from his 4kw array.

Its amazing what a bit of double counting can do for the figures...


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On 08/10/2013 19:16, John Rumm wrote:
On 08/10/2013 15:30, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Chapman wrote:

On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Harry is presumably now green with envy since it is unlikely he gets
significantly more than £1500 from his 4kw array.

Its amazing what a bit of double counting can do for the figures...

Well I for one did think that the contact being 'Harry' was just a
remarkable coincidence but the original report above does definitely
state £4,500 from FiT.

So let us assume Harry gets £1500 via his FiT contract. Where does the
other £3000 come from? The original report states it generates income
which is not the same as saving money by using free electricity or by
insulating to such a high standard that heating is not required. Even if
the real meaning is savings a modern house would not have energy bills
in excess of £1000 and the mileage you can do in an electric car would
make it difficult to justify savings in petrol and VED of any magnitude
if he ran a small petrol car instead.


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On 08/10/2013 15:30, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Roger Chapman wrote:

On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...

Remarkable coincidence...?

Harry is presumably now green with envy since it is unlikely he gets
significantly more than £1500 from his 4kw array.

Have a look at
http://www.herefordshirenewleaf.org.uk/net-zero-energy-house-solar-passive-plus-pv-panels

I think it unlikely that even Harry could envy himself.

Chris


Well the £4k5 saving is much more than my energy bill so it would be a
bit difficult to save that much.

On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:30:41 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Have a look at
http://www.herefordshirenewleaf.org.uk/net-zero-energy-house-solar-passive-plus-pv-panels

I think it unlikely that even Harry could envy himself.

If I was in any doubt, the pillbox windows sealed it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ara-chloroptera/

In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:30:41 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Have a look at
http://www.herefordshirenewleaf.org....solar-passive-
plus-pv-panels

I think it unlikely that even Harry could envy himself.

If I was in any doubt, the pillbox windows sealed it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ara-chloroptera/

OMG:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ara-chl...ra/5647253530/
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

On 09/10/2013 22:20, fred wrote:
In article , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:30:41 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Have a look at
http://www.herefordshirenewleaf.org....solar-passive-

plus-pv-panels

I think it unlikely that even Harry could envy himself.

If I was in any doubt, the pillbox windows sealed it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ara-chloroptera/

OMG:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ara-chl...ra/5647253530/

I take it you have not seen the TV program then?

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On 09/10/2013 21:50, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:30:41 +0100, Chris J Dixon
wrote:

Have a look at
http://www.herefordshirenewleaf.org.uk/net-zero-energy-house-solar-passive-plus-pv-panels

I think it unlikely that even Harry could envy himself.

If I was in any doubt, the pillbox windows sealed it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ara-chloroptera/


But if that is arrys house how does he claim 41p per unit generated.
He has 21 panels and that would put him over the 4kWp (16 250w/240w
panels would be the limit) where the FIT drops.
I hope he hasn't made a false claim or it could get cancelled.

On 09/10/2013 23:13 dennis@home wrote:

But if that is arrys house how does he claim 41p per unit generated.
He has 21 panels and that would put him over the 4kWp (16 250w/240w
panels would be the limit) where the FIT drops.

A 21 panel installation doesn't necessarily mean the total output is
over the 4kWp limit. Not all panels produce 250W.

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On 08/10/2013 10:18, Adrian wrote:
A local low-energy-renewable-green season of events is about to start.

One venue open is an eco house which is allegedly so efficient it
generates £4,500 in income every year from FiT, as well as enough
electricity to run a Mitsu i-Miev. Contact Harry on...


Essex Fire Brigade is going to spend £2M on solar panels because it's
going to generate revenue and save council tax payer money. They failed
to say that the council tax payer is first going to stump up the £2M for
fitting AND then an extra 4% of their power utility bills for FIT
payments. Where is the saving to the council tax payer or do Fire
Brigade leaders think there is magic bucket of money from which these
payment appear?


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On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 22:51:55 +0100, alan wrote:

Essex Fire Brigade is going to spend £2M on solar panels because it's
going to generate revenue and save council tax payer money. They failed
to say that the council tax payer is first going to stump up the £2M
for fitting AND then an extra 4% of their power utility bills for FIT
payments. Where is the saving to the council tax payer or do Fire
Brigade leaders think there is magic bucket of money from which these
payment appear?

Perhaps you ought to write a letter to the local paper(s) copied to
the local Council and Fire service asking for clarification (aka
proof) that there will be a saving for the "council tax payer" and
how long it will be before the that saving actually appears.

The 4% (that low I thought the "green levy" was 11% ...) is sort of
irelevant as you are going to pay that wether the panels are
installed or not.

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On 09/10/2013 09:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:

The 4% (that low I thought the "green levy" was 11% ...) is sort of
irelevant as you are going to pay that wether the panels are
installed or not.


In the last few days a radio 4 program reported that the total green
levy was closer to 20% of your bill. The 4% is the amount paid by the
majority to just fund those with solar panels. Windmills etc. are
another 10 to 12%.


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