I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be appreciated.

On Apr 13, 11:26*am, js_a_home
wrote:
I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.

--
js_a_home

There is no actual pipe connection, The tank just sits on the pan with
a soft floppy foam washer between the two.
Normally there are just two wing nuts hold the tank in place under the
back of the pan.
Disconnect water and overflow, remove wing nuts, tank lifts off. You
may need a new floppy washer but easily available.

On 13/04/2013 18:47, harry wrote:
On Apr 13, 11:26 am, js_a_home
wrote:
I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.

--
js_a_home

There is no actual pipe connection, The tank just sits on the pan with
a soft floppy foam washer between the two.
Normally there are just two wing nuts hold the tank in place under the
back of the pan.
Disconnect water and overflow, remove wing nuts, tank lifts off. You
may need a new floppy washer but easily available.

The floppy washer is called a doughnut washer and you should always
replace with a new one.

On 13/04/2013 11:26, js_a_home wrote:

I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.




You don't usually have to remove the cistern to change the fill valve.

Picture?


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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Apr 13, 6:47 pm, harry wrote:
On Apr 13, 11:26 am, js_a_home
wrote:

I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.

--
js_a_home

There is no actual pipe connection, The tank just sits on the pan with
a soft floppy foam washer between the two.
Normally there are just two wing nuts hold the tank in place under the
back of the pan.
Disconnect water and overflow, remove wing nuts, tank lifts off. You
may need a new floppy washer but easily available.

but being a "back to the wall" design you can't get at the wing nuts
Harry....

Jim K

On 13/04/2013 19:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 13/04/2013 11:26, js_a_home wrote:

I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.




You don't usually have to remove the cistern to change the fill valve.

Picture?


Sorry, just realised what BTW means :-)

If you can't get to the connectors you will have to slide the whole
thing forward.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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On 13/04/2013 19:13, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 13/04/2013 11:26, js_a_home wrote:

I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.




You don't usually have to remove the cistern to change the fill valve.

Picture?


Sorry, just realised what BTW means :-)

By The Way?

Bottom Tickling Watercloset?

Big Tit Wank etc.

"js_a_home" wrote in message
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I have an Ideal Standard concept close coupled BTW WC and cistern. I
need to replace the bottom entry fill valve - permanent leak. I cannot
find a copy of the installation instructions to see how the cistern
connects to the pan and whether I need to remove the whole thing in
order to access the connections/locking nut which are hidden within the
pan ceramic case. Scanned the web/Ideal site and no instructions are
available online. Any recommendations for a new filling valve would be
appreciated.

You should be able to remove the panel behind the pan (or part of it) if it
has been fitted by someone with half a clue, see video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4SHYM52vhY&noredirect=1


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