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I have a combi boiler: Chaffoteaux Minima MX2.
A few days ago water started leaking from the PRV.
It was leaking from the seat and from the side where
the discharge pipe is connected via a 15mm tap connector.
The tap connector is not 90 degrees and looks like its had
the end hacked off and then been connected to some orange
vacuum hose which in turn is connected to some more copper that exits
the wall outside.

I notice that there is a lot of play where the PRV connects. It is held in
place by a 'hair clip' but there is movement in all directions: vertical, horizontal
and rotational.

Is a fitting with this much play water tight and should the discharge
pipe not be all copper? If it is all copper does this not add stress to,
what appears to be, a very flimsy connection. There doesn't seem to be
anywhere to add a pipe support if/when the discharge pipe run is corrected.

A new PRV is all plastic. Whereas the old brass fitting had a red cap that had
a rotation arrow on it and a spring inside that was activated to release
water pressure. I can't see how the new one works. The red cap is
fixed solid.

Any comments?
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I have a combi boiler: Chaffoteaux Minima MX2.
A few days ago water started leaking from the PRV.
It was leaking from the seat and from the side where
the discharge pipe is connected via a 15mm tap connector.
The tap connector is not 90 degrees and looks like its had
the end hacked off and then been connected to some orange
vacuum hose which in turn is connected to some more copper that exits
the wall outside.

I notice that there is a lot of play where the PRV connects. It is held
in
place by a 'hair clip' but there is movement in all directions:
vertical, horizontal
and rotational.

Is a fitting with this much play water tight and should the discharge
pipe not be all copper? If it is all copper does this not add stress
to,
what appears to be, a very flimsy connection. There doesn't seem to be
anywhere to add a pipe support if/when the discharge pipe run is
corrected.

A new PRV is all plastic. Whereas the old brass fitting had a red cap
that had
a rotation arrow on it and a spring inside that was activated to release

water pressure. I can't see how the new one works. The red cap is
fixed solid.

Any comments?


Hmm, sounds like you've got two problems. A cobbled up installation and
unexpected discharge.

Some pictures would be a big help. The fact that the valve is discharging
may well be due to expansion vessel failure and not due to any failure in
the valve, it's just doing its job in that situation.

This may be helpful.
http://www.centralheating.co.uk/syst.../Minima_HE.pdf

Tim
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This may be helpful.http://www.centralheating.co.uk/syst...nts/0000/2965/...

Tim


Surely, in Fig. 2, the gas supply is shown as being connected to the
filling valve? Or is this normal?

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I will post some pictures tomorrow.
Chaffoteaux technical support say that the installation kit that is provided
with the boiler includes the spigot discribed and a length of tubing to connect
to the discharge pipe. What's the deal here?
Would the boiler get a certificate if inspected? Or would I be advised to run it in copper, which is PITA with the space available.

Tim, the leak is from the PRV seat. The valve is swinging in the breeze. All you have to do is breath on it in the wrong direction and water is let by.
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boondocker wrote:
I will post some pictures tomorrow.
Chaffoteaux technical support say that the installation kit that is
provided
with the boiler includes the spigot discribed and a length of tubing to
connect
to the discharge pipe. What's the deal here?


It should be capable of coping with boiling water. Not that this should
happen ordinarily but a faulty boiler stat might lead to boiling so
consequently, the drainage system should cope with it.


Would the boiler get a certificate if inspected? Or would I be advised
to run it in copper, which is PITA with the space available.


It only needs to be copper for long enough for the water to cool a bit I
guess. The installation guide should set out chapter and verse.

Tim
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