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I am struggling to find a replacement 6 bar relief valve protecting an
under counter unvented water heater. The unit was installed by tenants and is now dribbling! I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. There are no obvious manufacturer details and general Google searches do not lead to a supplier of parts. This must be an item fitted with all such heaters so somebody must supply replacements. any ideas? -- Tim Lamb |
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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... I am struggling to find a replacement 6 bar relief valve protecting an under counter unvented water heater. The unit was installed by tenants and is now dribbling! I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. There are no obvious manufacturer details and general Google searches do not lead to a supplier of parts. This must be an item fitted with all such heaters so somebody must supply replacements. any ideas? -- Tim Lamb http://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/searc...ct&R=310771 6 Google provided several. Peter |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:28:26 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:
I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. Hmm, wonder if you can strip it and reassemble and still expect it to work (i.e. whether the pressure at which it trips is inherent in the design, or if it's dictated by how tightly some part or other is torqued upon assembly) I suspect there's still a particle of something or other stuck in there, but disassembly might be the only way to get at it. Alternately, the valve's probably a standard thread - if it'll come off, it's probably possible to source a 6 bar valve with the right fitting from *somewhere* even if it's not identical to the current leaking one. Maybe something like: http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/pressure...alves-231-0000 .... and maybe you can get fittings to make up an adapter if needed? This must be an item fitted with all such heaters so somebody must supply replacements. Dunno. This side of the Pond they're all pretty standard and you can get the valves from any DIY store that does plumbing supplies (ditto with elements, drain valves etc.) - but I don't remember seeing such things in UK stores (not that I ever had cause to look that hard, though). cheers Jules |
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In message , Peter Andrews
writes "Tim Lamb" wrote in message .. . I am struggling to find a replacement 6 bar relief valve protecting an under counter unvented water heater. The unit was installed by tenants and is now dribbling! I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. There are no obvious manufacturer details and general Google searches do not lead to a supplier of parts. This must be an item fitted with all such heaters so somebody must supply replacements. any ideas? -- Tim Lamb http://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/searc...tml?method=get Product&R=3107716 Google provided several. Yes. That's the job! I'm now curious to know what search terms you used? regards -- Tim Lamb |
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In message . com, Jules
writes On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:28:26 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. Hmm, wonder if you can strip it and reassemble and still expect it to work (i.e. whether the pressure at which it trips is inherent in the design, or if it's dictated by how tightly some part or other is torqued upon assembly) Possibly. Unfortunately, if I wreck it attempting a repair, my tenant will be without a supply for hand washing. I suspect there's still a particle of something or other stuck in there, but disassembly might be the only way to get at it. Yes. Peter has given me a source so the plan is to wait for the replacement to arrive before attempting anything. These heaters seem to originate from Italy although Santon et al have their own versions but fitted with different over pressure arrangements. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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On Dec 1, 10:55*am, Jules
wrote: On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:28:26 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. Hmm, wonder if you can strip it and reassemble and still expect it to work (i.e. whether the pressure at which it trips is inherent in the design, or if it's dictated by how tightly some part or other is torqued upon assembly) I suspect there's still a particle of something or other stuck in there, but dis assembly might be the only way to get at it. Alternately, the valve's probably a standard thread - if it'll come off, it's probably possible to source a 6 bar valve with the right fitting from *somewhere* even if it's not identical to the current leaking one. Maybe something like: *http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/pressure...alves-231-0000 ... and maybe you can get fittings to make up an adapter if needed? This must be an item fitted with all such heaters so somebody must supply replacements. Dunno. This side of the Pond they're all pretty standard and you can get the valves from any DIY store that does plumbing supplies (ditto with elements, drain valves etc.) - but I don't remember seeing such things in UK stores (not that I ever had cause to look that hard, though). cheers Jules Agree. This side of the pond (i.e. eastern Canada) a typical pressure relief valve costs around $25 Can or less. That's around 12 to 15 quid! (New). Last time we bought one was because the PR valve on our replacement 120 litre dual electric element hot water tank (About 150 quid, two years ago, but now closer to 180 quid) was side mounted; so a valve with a deeper thread was required. All bought from a building supplies store, of which there are several of the leading Canadian chains in this city of around 200,000. Apart from that we'd still be using a 40+ year old second hand PR we picked up in a junk store/flea market back then; for 'pennies' IIRC. One inch pipe thread I think? |
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You'll find the same, only cheaper, at www.bes.co.uk, in all different
"flavours" (male inlet, female outlet etc). Their search tool is a nightmare but the catalogues are good |
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"newshound" wrote in message ... You'll find the same, only cheaper, at www.bes.co.uk, in all different "flavours" (male inlet, female outlet etc). Their search tool is a nightmare but the catalogues are good I should have added that, in my experience with combi boilers, once they have been leaking the seats get irrevocably damaged and it's quick, cheap, and easy to replace them. BES part numbers are 17107 11346 11347 12346 Between £5 and £6 plus vat |
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"Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... In message , Peter Andrews writes "Tim Lamb" wrote in message . .. I am struggling to find a replacement 6 bar relief valve protecting an under counter unvented water heater. The unit was installed by tenants and is now dribbling! I have tried releasing water to see if grit has lodged in the seating without success. There are no obvious manufacturer details and general Google searches do not lead to a supplier of parts. This must be an item fitted with all such heaters so somebody must supply replacements. any ideas? -- Tim Lamb http://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/searc...tml?method=get Product&R=3107716 Google provided several. Yes. That's the job! I'm now curious to know what search terms you used? regards -- Tim Lamb "6 bar relief valve" copied from your posting! Peter |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
Yes. That's the job! You said 6 bar! AJH |
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In message , Peter Andrews
writes http://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/searc...tml?method=get Product&R=3107716 Google provided several. Yes. That's the job! I'm now curious to know what search terms you used? regards -- Tim Lamb "6 bar relief valve" copied from your posting! Hmm... I tried *pressure relief valve* and then filtered for 6 bar. Then various flavours of the above. Under counter heater manufacturers were found but seemed unprepared to offer spares of this type. Anyway problem potentially solved, subject to original plumbers comment that *they always leak in high water pressure areas*. Thanks to all who helped. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , andrew
writes Tim Lamb wrote: Yes. That's the job! You said 6 bar! er.. yes? regards -- Tim Lamb |
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Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , andrew writes Tim Lamb wrote: Yes. That's the job! You said 6 bar! er.. yes? Sorry I misread it, I see it is adjustable up to 10 bar. We're not allowed to use adjustable ones so ours are factory set and have a lead seal, they cost considerably more too. The only one that failed would not re seat itself no matter how I played with it once it started leaking. AJH |
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In message , andrew
writes Tim Lamb wrote: In message , andrew writes Tim Lamb wrote: Yes. That's the job! You said 6 bar! er.. yes? Sorry I misread it, I see it is adjustable up to 10 bar. We're not allowed to use adjustable ones so ours are factory set and have a lead seal, they cost considerably more too. These are also fixed. No lead seal though. The only one that failed would not re seat itself no matter how I played with it once it started leaking. Yes. Amazing how water can cut a slot in a brass seating in a few months of dripping. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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