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I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

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Brian Gaff wrote:

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.


There are a plenty of various sizes on ebay, but the only ones I can see
with the air vent up the side are tiny, expensive, stainless steel ones
for use by baristas

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On 19/02/2013 08:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian


Is 14cm large enough?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-14cm-Cl.../dp/B004XLGX0I

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On Feb 19, 8:38*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'm looking for a *replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The *current
one is plastic and going *brittle on its bottom. It is one of those with the
indent to allow air out of the *bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

*There seem to be very few funnels *around these days.

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Why not get one of these microwavable thingys?
Much safer and more convenient.
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On 19/02/2013 08:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely
when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those
with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push
the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian


Is 14cm large enough?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-14cm-Cl.../dp/B004XLGX0I

Colin Bignell


I should have added that the image is of a plastic funnel that appears
to have moulded ribs along the spout to allow air to escape.

Colin Bignell


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On 19/02/2013 09:27, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2013 09:22, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2013 08:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely
when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The
current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those
with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've
seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push
the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian


Is 14cm large enough?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-14cm-Cl.../dp/B004XLGX0I

Colin Bignell


I should have added that the image is of a plastic funnel that appears
to have moulded ribs along the spout to allow air to escape.

Colin Bignell

There are plenty online. I typed *funnels* into Google and nearly a
whole page of links popped up. So quite a few to choose from.
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On 19/02/2013 09:24, harry wrote:
On Feb 19, 8:38 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian

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Why not get one of these microwavable thingys?
Much safer and more convenient.


Not always

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ouse-down.html

They are also reported to cool down faster.

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:42:04 +0000, Nightjar wrote:

Why not get one of these microwavable thingys?
Much safer and more convenient.


Not always

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...Theyre-modern-
answer-hot-water-bottles-But-burn-house-down.html


Nasty an obvious risk when pointed out and the exothermic reaction above
225C is not good news.

But as fire investigator Chris Clarke says in the article " 'Wheat bags
aren't inherently dangerous if they're used correctly,' he added. 'You
just need to be careful, as you would with a candle or a chip pan.' ".

Perhaps it's not a good idea to let the do lally use them unsupervised.

They are also reported to cool down faster.


Well as water has one of the highest heat capacities out there that is
not surprising.

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On 19/02/2013 09:42, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2013 09:24, harry wrote:
On Feb 19, 8:38 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles
safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The
current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those
with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've
seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could
push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian

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Why not get one of these microwavable thingys?
Much safer and more convenient.


Not always

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ouse-down.html


They are also reported to cool down faster.

Colin Bignell


On frosty mornings I sometimes use a microwave HWB to help defrost the
car windscreen. Bung it on something on top of the dashboard. Helps a
lot in reducing condensation on inside of glass.

But I would not want to use one in my bed. Too small. Takes quite a
while to heat through safely at the size it is - a bigger one will
obviously take longer. And the longer it takes, the more likely anyone
is to leave it unattended for a short time.

If I felt the need, I would get an electric blanket of one sort or another.

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:38:09 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

It is one of those with the indent to allow air out of the bottle, but
most of the ones I've seen so far are just round which is rather
dangerous as the hot air could push the funnel up and spill hot water
onto the persone holding it, ie me!


I'd have though the raised surround around the stopper of the hot water
bottle would have stopped the funnel getting that far down into the
opening. Not to mention that it would have to be quite a large funnel for
the spout to block the filler.

I don't think I've ever seen a plastic funnel with a indent on the spout.
Plenty with small ribs between the spout and sides to stop the funnel
settling right into an opening.

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.


Certainly not many about in the mass market retail shops. They seem to be
a "specialist" item these days.

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On Feb 19, 9:42*am, Nightjar
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On Feb 19, 8:38 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'm looking for a *replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The *current
one is plastic and going *brittle on its bottom. It is one of those with the
indent to allow air out of the *bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!


* There seem to be very few funnels *around these days.


Brian


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Why not get one of these microwavable thingys?
Much safer and more convenient.


Not always

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...e-modern-answe...

They are also reported to cool down faster.

Colin Bignell


Well I suppose anything you leave too long in the microwave can catch
fire.
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On 19/02/2013 10:50, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:38:09 -0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

It is one of those with the indent to allow air out of the bottle, but
most of the ones I've seen so far are just round which is rather
dangerous as the hot air could push the funnel up and spill hot water
onto the persone holding it, ie me!


I'd have though the raised surround around the stopper of the hot water
bottle would have stopped the funnel getting that far down into the
opening. Not to mention that it would have to be quite a large funnel for
the spout to block the filler.

I don't think I've ever seen a plastic funnel with a indent on the spout.


My fuel funnel has one. Probably available at most car shops, but
probably too long and bendy for the job.

SteveW

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On 19/02/2013 08:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian


I don't know how good they are, but there are plenty of sealed for life,
electric, hot-water bottles. Plug them in for a while before you go to
bed and then unplug and take it up with you.

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Why not get one of these microwavable thingys?
Much safer and more convenient.


Not always

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ouse-down.html


They are also reported to cool down faster.

Colin Bignell



The ones I bought in lidl a few weeks ago don't contain wheat.
They also appear to go through some sort of phase change as they get hot
and then appear to cool a bit when microwaved more.
They stay warm for quite a while.

The biggest problem is that you can't nuke them at full power so it
takes a while to heat up.


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I'd heartily recommend the wheat bag approach (John Lewis call them
"wheat wraps").

My wife has used one (i.e. the same one) for at least a dozen years:
gives it 2 mins in the microwave, and it suits her perfectly as a hot
water bottle. Much safer, and *much* more convenient.

In contrast, a friend of mine was taken to hospital the other day
because his HWB burst on his feet in the bed: he may need plastic
surgery! God knows how hot he was heating the water, but certainly the
bottle itself had had enough!


And as for the Daily Mail "set fire to bed" story in connection with a
child's wheat bag: again, god knows what happened there, but I doubt if
you, Brian, are in danger from such an accident.

Cheers
John

p.s. Myself, I use an electric blanket from October through April, set
to nuke-temperature. (But I switch it off before I get in!)
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I'd heartily recommend the wheat bag approach (John Lewis call them
"wheat wraps").

My wife has used one (i.e. the same one) for at least a dozen years:
gives it 2 mins in the microwave, and it suits her perfectly as a hot
water bottle. Much safer, and *much* more convenient.

In contrast, a friend of mine was taken to hospital the other day
because his HWB burst on his feet in the bed: he may need plastic
surgery! God knows how hot he was heating the water, but certainly the
bottle itself had had enough!


And as for the Daily Mail "set fire to bed" story in connection with a
child's wheat bag: again, god knows what happened there, but I doubt if
you, Brian, are in danger from such an accident.

Cheers
John

p.s. Myself, I use an electric blanket from October through April, set
to nuke-temperature. (But I switch it off before I get in!)


Yeah, I prefer the electric blanket approach myself, and don’t turn
it off when in the bed either, just turn it down from the heat the
bed nice and cozy setting its on before getting into the bed.

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Actually answering my own question here. We were in Wilkinsons yesterday
looking for a cheap jug, and hey presto, they had the funnels. Indeed a
bundle of three for a pound. The big one exactly like the broken one. You
need to pour slowly as the indent is not quite so big, but it works fine and
does not topple.

Weird this as lots of other shops one might expect to have them just look
puzzled when you mention the vent.

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There seem to be very few funnels around these days.


There are a plenty of various sizes on ebay, but the only ones I can see
with the air vent up the side are tiny, expensive, stainless steel ones
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Most were lab funnels or jam funnels or some for other strange uses not on
topic here I found.. grin.

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On 19/02/2013 09:27, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2013 09:22, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2013 08:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm looking for a replacement funnel to fill hot water bottles safely
when
you cannot see and most kettles have wide spouts these days. The
current
one is plastic and going brittle on its bottom. It is one of those
with the
indent to allow air out of the bottle, but most of the ones I've
seen so
far are just round which is rather dangerous as the hot air could push
the
funnel up and spill hot water onto the persone holding it, ie me!

There seem to be very few funnels around these days.

Brian


Is 14cm large enough?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Home-14cm-Cl.../dp/B004XLGX0I

Colin Bignell


I should have added that the image is of a plastic funnel that appears
to have moulded ribs along the spout to allow air to escape.

Colin Bignell

There are plenty online. I typed *funnels* into Google and nearly a whole
page of links popped up. So quite a few to choose from.



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