would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc - as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Jim K

In article ,
Jim K writes:
would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc - as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Scrim and beading is used when the plastering is done, not when
the boards are put up.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In article , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article
m,
Jim K writes:
would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc - as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Scrim and beading is used when the plastering is done, not when
the boards are put up.

I agree with the scrim but I've put corner beads on at the same time as
boarding to get the flats secured under the boards.
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

On 07/02/13 00:37, fred wrote:

I agree with the scrim but I've put corner beads on at the same time as
boarding to get the flats secured under the boards.

Sounds odd, that would leave the corner of the bead below the surface of
the board, which is a bit pointless.

On Feb 6, 10:17*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
In article ,
* * * * Jim K writes:

would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc *as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc *- as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Scrim and beading is used when the plastering is done, not when
the boards are put up.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

It was in days of yore. Scrim these days is sticky and is put on
before the plastering is commenced. Much quicker and easier.
Always a debatable issue who does what. Should be specified at the
time of the quote. In writing.

In article ,
harry writes:
On Feb 6, 10:17*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
In article ,
* * * * Jim K writes:

would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc *as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc *- as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Scrim and beading is used when the plastering is done, not when
the boards are put up.

It was in days of yore. Scrim these days is sticky and is put on
before the plastering is commenced. Much quicker and easier.
Always a debatable issue who does what. Should be specified at the
time of the quote. In writing.

A new roll of scrim is sticky, but it's not after it's been in a
plasterer's bag for 10 minutes, and no plasterer relies on this.
It's applied with a trowel loaded with plaster to make sure it's
fully coated in plaster, and hence during the plastering, and not
during the plasterboarding.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On 7 Feb, 09:40, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
In article ,
* * * * harry writes:









On Feb 6, 10:17*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:
In article ,
* * * * Jim K writes:

would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc *as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc *- as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Scrim and beading is used when the plastering is done, not when
the boards are put up.

It was in days of yore. Scrim these days is sticky and is put on
before the plastering is commenced. Much quicker and easier.
Always a debatable issue who does what. Should be specified at the
time of the quote. In writing.

A new roll of scrim is sticky, but it's not after it's been in a
plasterer's bag for 10 minutes, and no plasterer relies on this.
It's applied with a trowel loaded with plaster to make sure it's
fully coated in plaster, and hence during the plastering, and not
during the plasterboarding.

agreed, it also has a habit of falling off "overnight" if not
plastered ASAP.

I have seen an alleged "pro" plasterer apply self adhesive scrim and
then looked like he'd PVA'd over to stop it falling off whilst other
work was carried on - mmm presume he was on an hourly rate then.....

Jim K

On 7 Feb, 06:39, harry wrote:
On Feb 6, 10:17*pm, (Andrew Gabriel)
wrote:









In article ,
* * * * Jim K writes:

would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc *as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc *- as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Scrim and beading is used when the plastering is done, not when
the boards are put up.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

It was in days of yore. Scrim these days is sticky and is put on
before the plastering is commenced. Much quicker and easier.
Always a debatable issue who does what. Should be specified at the
time of the quote. In writing.

"should be" "could be" "would be"

Jim K

On 06/02/2013 21:57, Jim K wrote:
would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads, scrim all the joints
etc as part of his esteemed quote?

put another way - would the person employed to supply & fit the
pboards (but not skim them) realistically want to be involved in
supplying & fitting corner beads, scrim etc - as (at least in part)
they are critical to the final finish....

I foresee potential for a load of "not me was him" finger point/
blaming bull**** here....

Jim K

In my experience, the right man will do whatever it takes to do the job
(assuming he wants the job). He might warn beforehand that some feature
of the existing work could cause some kind of problem, then you can decide.

On 06/02/13 21:57, Jim K wrote:
would a plasterer invited to quote for an already pboarded out job,
expect to supply and fix his own corner beads

Yes.
I think he'd be very surprised if presented with anything other than the
bare boards.