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I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?

Any other buying advice on cordless drills?

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Hi All,
After eventually getting through the image verification, I can post my
first thread!

I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for
all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am
contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a
cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or
should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?


I use a pair of Bosch cordless 24V hammer drills for heavy stuff. The
drill that compliments them is a 400W mains drill, quite small and
light. I feel that I don't need anything else.

Bill
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On 27/01/2013 20:25, Prizen wrote:

Hi All,
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Why not cut out the middle man, and post here directly?:

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I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for
all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am
contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a
cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or
should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?

Any other buying advice on cordless drills?


Its a deep question...

Much depends on use intended, and budget

General comments:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/drill.htm

Cordless specifics:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/powertools/cordless.htm

If you want something that is not just for occasional use, then look at
Makita, Bosch (blue bodied, not green), Hitachi, DeWalt level of tool -
you can frequently pick up some good bargains if you shop about. Be
prepared to spend at least £100

For woodwork, and chippying in general, you could argue that hammer
action is not going to add much value. So a 14.4 or 18V drill driver
might be a good fit. Either will do any carpentry and wood working task.

You want at least two batteries, and preferably three if you want to
work continuously.

Also have a look at the new(ish) 10.8V Li-Ion small drills that have
become popular recently. Bosch and Makita both have very nice examples.


http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/makita-l...river--p127974

http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/bosch-gs...drill--p121277




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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:18:19 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

After eventually getting through the image verification, I can post my
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Why not cut out the middle man, and post here directly?:

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+1 no silly loging in and pages of eye candy that takes ages to render.

Also have a look at the new(ish) 10.8V Li-Ion small drills that have
become popular recently. Bosch and Makita both have very nice examples.


Have they overcome the problem with the Li battery protection circuitry
cutting in when you put a half decent load on the tool? I had a Li based
cordless screwdriver, the moment the screw got even a little bit tight
the thing would cut out.

I'm not keen on Li batteries, of the battery powered kit I have it's the
bits with Li batteries that are the least reliable.

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You want at least two batteries, and preferably three if you want to
work continuously.


Three batteries won't help you work continuously unless you have two
chargers, unless you have a very fast charger and you are a very slow
worker.

Bill


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On 28/01/2013 15:14, Bill Wright wrote:
John Rumm wrote:

You want at least two batteries, and preferably three if you want to
work continuously.


Three batteries won't help you work continuously unless you have two
chargers, unless you have a very fast charger and you are a very slow
worker.


My 18V Makita charger takes about 20 mins to charge a 2.6Ah NiMh
battery, which is normally quick enough to keep me working.

The point about three batts is that you can have one in use, one
cooling, and one charging (charging a hot battery that you have just
taken off the tool is a good way to reduce its life).

Also with three batts, you often find that is enough to complete many
jobs anyway.


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On 27/01/13 20:25, Prizen wrote:

Hi All,
After eventually getting through the image verification, I can post my
first thread!

I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for
all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am
contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a
cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or
should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?

Any other buying advice on cordless drills?

Thanks




For general DIY, I've found my DeWalt cordless (with hammer) is good
enough I no longer need anything else.
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On 27/01/2013 20:25, Prizen wrote:

Hi All,
After eventually getting through the image verification, I can post my
first thread!

I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for
all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am
contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a
cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or
should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?

Any other buying advice on cordless drills?

Thanks




I'd say first of all, go for a 'brand' like John has suggested.

Next most important thing is the batteries & charger. Most 'deals come
with 1.3a/hr Ni/Cd batteries. Bigger batteries hold more charge, Ni/Mh
batteries are better, Li Ion are best.

Most good makes have smart chargers, cheap one have chargers that cook
batteries.
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Hi All,
After eventually getting through the image verification, I can post my
first thread!

I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for
all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am
contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a
cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or
should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?

Any other buying advice on cordless drills?

Thanks




I'd say first of all, go for a 'brand' like John has suggested.

Next most important thing is the batteries & charger. Most 'deals come
with 1.3a/hr Ni/Cd batteries. Bigger batteries hold more charge, Ni/Mh
batteries are better, Li Ion are best.

Most good makes have smart chargers, cheap one have chargers that cook
batteries.
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I am edging towards a 14.4 or 18v Li-ion back-up my corded SDS.

One last question, how do Li-ion batteries hold up to relatively long periods of storage?
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On 28/01/2013 20:26, Prizen wrote:
The Medway Handyman;3004645 Wrote:
On 27/01/2013 20:25, Prizen wrote:-

Hi All,
After eventually getting through the image verification, I can post my
first thread!

I a DIY user from Ireland, and I currently have a corded SDS drill for
all the DIY heavy work. I mostly plan to do woodwork and am
contemplating what type of cordless drill to get.

If I am using my corded SDS for all masonry / concrete work, will a
cordless drill driver be fine for all or at most woodwork tasks, or
should I get a combi cordless drill that has a hammer function also?

Any other buying advice on cordless drills?

Thanks



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I'd say first of all, go for a 'brand' like John has suggested.

Next most important thing is the batteries & charger. Most 'deals come

with 1.3a/hr Ni/Cd batteries. Bigger batteries hold more charge, Ni/Mh

batteries are better, Li Ion are best.

Most good makes have smart chargers, cheap one have chargers that cook
batteries.
--
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jobs that need to be done' (http://www.medwayhandyman.co.uk)


I am edging towards a 14.4 or 18v Li-ion back-up my corded SDS.

One last question, how do Li-ion batteries hold up to relatively long
periods of storage?


Yup, they have the lowest auto discharge rate of any of the common
technologies.

They are generally more complicated and require smarter chargers and
dedicated control circuitry on the battery itself. Generally that will
prevent them from ever running truly flat (a situation they probably
can't recover from). So you just need to make sure that if you run a
battery down to the point where the monitoring circuitry disables it,
you then charge it within a reasonable time. If you leave a flat battery
for months before charging it may get "bricked" and become unusable.


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