Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?

In message 42,
DerbyBorn writes
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?

Yes.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14433.aspx

--
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In article 42,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in
postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

Pretty certain they can be bought at any tube station or overground one.

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On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if
you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]
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Roger Mills wrote in
:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50
in postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if
you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.
I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor
Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available
at all Ticket Offices and many machines.
Fingers crossed!

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
18.142...
Roger Mills wrote in
:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50
in postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if
you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.
I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor
Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available
at all Ticket Offices and many machines.
Fingers crossed!

You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you will
be using.

And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the
people that live there get them?

tim

"tim....." wrote in
:


"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
18.142...
Roger Mills wrote in
:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a
TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will
add on £2:50 in postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even
if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.
I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets
(Visitor Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should
be available at all Ticket Offices and many machines.
Fingers crossed!

You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that
you will be using.

And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think
the people that live there get them?

tim



I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops
and that some stations were maybe all automated.
Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always
provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:49:13 GMT, DerbyBorn wrote:

I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops
and that some stations were maybe all automated.

If if they are fully automated I'm pretty sure the machines will sell you
a travecard for which ever zones you need. Might not be wise to try this
in the rush hour as reading the instructions, following them, pressing
the right buttons, feeding the money in, etc will be a slow process
compared to the commuter who does it all on autopilot. Mind you how many
people who use the London Transport system more than a couple of times a
week don't have a Oyster card?

Sorry my question seemed a bit niave.

Not at all. The London Transport system is a mystery to me with zones,
cards, shellfish, congestion charges, pollution control areas etc etc.

If you haven't already bought the bus tickets you may well find that
there are some good deals with combined long distance bus ticket, TfL
travel card, and admission to some attractions.

--
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Dave.

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops
and that some stations were maybe all automated.
Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always
provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave.

Going to London myself only once or twice a year, I generally buy a one
day travel card, £6ish the last few times, now it has gone up to £7.30
iirc.
Last time I went, I only used one bus, and walked everywhere else,
making the £6ish ticket rather expensive.

Oyster is looking more attractive, if you are intending to come back
another day in the future.
IIRC, it costs £10, £5 (refundable, eventually) deposit, and £5 toward
the fare. These figures may be slightly wrong,as it is a couple of
months ago when I looked into it.
You can top up the card automatically if needed.
The TFL website is not the clearest, well, certainly wasnt for me, but
if you keep looking there, you will find the details.
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I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops
and that some stations were maybe all automated.
Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always
provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave.

If I go to London from Cambridge I get a travel card that covers the
rail trip then the tube and buses at Cambridge station, but I believe
you can get the same from most any manned tube station..


--
Tony Sayer

In message , tim.....
writes

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
. 118.142...
Roger Mills wrote in
:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50
in postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if
you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.
I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor
Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available
at all Ticket Offices and many machines.
Fingers crossed!

You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you
will be using.

And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think
the people that live there get them?

The Oyster card is a yet unsolved mystery to me and I only live 20 miles
away!

--
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In message , tim.....
writes

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
. 118.142...
Roger Mills wrote in
:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50
in postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if
you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.
I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor
Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available
at all Ticket Offices and many machines.
Fingers crossed!

You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you
will be using.

And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think
the people that live there get them?

At the local village station, they only seem to sell an 'all-zone'
Travelcard (zones 1 to 6 - but maybe excluding Heathrow?). £23 covers
the return fare to the London terminus station, and unlimited travel on
the underground and London buses. Off-peak (leave here after 09:30, but
return at any time) is cheaper.
--
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In message , at 16:03:14 on Sun, 13
Jan 2013, Ian Jackson remarked:
At the local village station, they only seem to sell an 'all-zone'
Travelcard

It varies, here's an example of a journey where a Z1-4 Travelcard is
available as a daily ticket, plus Z2-5 (etc) for seven-day ones:

http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=IFD&dest=ZCW&rlc=

OK, Ilford isn't a "village station", but we can probably find one that
does have more than (the admittedly common) just the Z1-6 ticket
available.
--
Roland Perry

On 13/01/2013 16:03, Ian Jackson wrote:

At the local village station, they only seem to sell an 'all-zone'
Travelcard (zones 1 to 6 - but maybe excluding Heathrow?). £23 covers
the return fare to the London terminus station, and unlimited travel on
the underground and London buses. Off-peak (leave here after 09:30, but
return at any time) is cheaper.

Excludes some of the extreme stations in the Chilterns - e.g. Amersham.
Maybe inter alia.

--
Rod

On 13/01/2013 12:10, tim..... wrote:
And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the
people that live there get them?

They don't. They use an Oyster card.

Which BTW I was advised against as visitors make mistakes.

Andy

On Jan 13, 12:10*pm, "tim....." wrote:
"DerbyBorn" wrote in message

18.142...









Roger Mills wrote in
:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50
in postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube
pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You
*may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if
you're not going by train - not sure about that one.]

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.
I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor
Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available
at all Ticket Offices and many machines.
Fingers crossed!

You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you will
be using.

And of course you can buy them when you get there. *How do you think the
people that live there get them?

tim

They use Oyster cards

Jonathan

On 13/01/13 11:29, DerbyBorn wrote:

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.

You do realise how long those buses can take to get into Park Lane?
On a bad traffic day you can wait a long, long time just in the last few
miles to your destination.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:21:21 +0000, Dom Ostrowski
wrote:

On 13/01/13 11:29, DerbyBorn wrote:

Bus - arriving at Park Lane.

You do realise how long those buses can take to get into Park Lane?
On a bad traffic day you can wait a long, long time just in the last few
miles to your destination.

I use these buses quite a lot and IME while, yes, the last part of the
journey is often a crawl, this is factored into the timetables and the
bus should arrive within reasonable limits of the timetabled time.
Last time I arrived twenty minutes early; before that, on time.
Occasionally it all goes pear-shaped, but not often.

Nick

Nick Odell wrote:
I use these buses quite a lot and IME while, yes, the last part of the
journey is often a crawl, this is factored into the timetables and the
bus should arrive within reasonable limits of the timetabled time.
Last time I arrived twenty minutes early; before that, on time.
Occasionally it all goes pear-shaped, but not often.

Does the bus stop anywhere before Park Lane? For example, the Cambridge
buses take about a hour to get to Stratford, and then another hour to get
from Stratford to Victoria. You can get off at Stratford and take the tube
which saves about half an hour - especially if you're using a Travelcard and
wanted to go somewhere other than Victoria in the first place.

Theo

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?


Mornington Crescent.

--
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:53:43 +0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?


Mornington Crescent.

You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved
mystery a few seconds earlier..."

--
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%Profound_observation%

In message , Graham.
writes
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:53:43 +0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote:

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?


Mornington Crescent.

You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved
mystery a few seconds earlier..."

Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards
however....

I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There
remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you
swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets
the payment...


--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Graham.
writes
You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved
mystery a few seconds earlier..."

Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards however....

I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There
remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you
swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets
the payment...

Bus and tram fares are a fixed price per ride no matter what the
distance is. For most other trips, you touch in and touch out, and the
system deducts the calculated fare from the credit on your card as you
leave the station. There is, with exceptions, a daily maximum equivalent
to the cost of buying a one day travel card to cover the journeys you've
made,

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...r2.12.2011.pdf

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John.

In message , John Williamson
writes
Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Graham.
writes
You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved
mystery a few seconds earlier..."
Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards
however....
I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough.
There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going
when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the
driver who sets the payment...

Bus and tram fares are a fixed price per ride no matter what the
distance is. For most other trips, you touch in and touch out, and the
system deducts the calculated fare from the credit on your card as you
leave the station. There is, with exceptions, a daily maximum
equivalent to the cost of buying a one day travel card to cover the
journeys you've made,

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...und-with-oyste
r2.12.2011.pdf

I'm not going to let having this information spoil the rest of my life!

Ignoring foreign holidays, I can't remember when I last climbed the
steps of a bus:-)




--
Tim Lamb

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:52:21 +0000, John Williamson wrote:

Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , Graham.
writes
You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved
mystery a few seconds earlier..."

Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards
however....

I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough.
There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when
you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who
sets the payment...

Bus and tram fares are a fixed price per ride no matter what the
distance is. For most other trips, you touch in and touch out, and the
system deducts the calculated fare from the credit on your card as you
leave the station. There is, with exceptions, a daily maximum equivalent
to the cost of buying a one day travel card to cover the journeys you've
made,

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...g-around-with-
oyster2.12.2011.pdf

That leaflet is actually out of date (well, the prices are).



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In message , at 14:34:45 on
Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Tim Lamb remarked:

Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time.

Not since 1998.

--
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In message , Roland Perry
writes
In message , at 14:34:45 on
Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Tim Lamb remarked:

Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time.

Not since 1998.

Really? Probably about the last time I used London Underground.

Oh yes. Why does no one tell me these things!


--
Tim Lamb

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There
remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you
swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets
the payment...

You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey. No different from
showing your ticket at either end.

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In message , at 15:46:41 on Sun, 13 Jan
2013, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:
I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There
remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you
swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets
the payment...

You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey.

Not on the bus, because people are just not well enough conditioned to
swiping when they get off. So buses are a flat fare.

No different from showing your ticket at either end.

Which you don't tend to do on a bus.
--
Roland Perry

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:46:41 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Tim Lamb wrote:
I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough.
There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when
you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who
sets the payment...

You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey. No different from
showing your ticket at either end.

But they know who you are.

Although, in theory, if you bought a ticket with a credit/debit card,
they could still track you...

But difficult to get black helicopters down there.



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On Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:46:41 PM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,

Tim Lamb wrote:

I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There

remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you

swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets

the payment...



You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey. No different from

showing your ticket at either end.

There's one important differnce in that if you swipe in and forget to swipe out
(in some stations thats quite possible[1]) then you may be charged more as you have an uncomplteted journey so a sort of maxium fare is applied.

[1] A few stations (usually overgroud, may not have an oyster reader)






Dave Plowman London SW

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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:34:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough.

Except "they" have your money... I guess it's to much to ask to pay via a
RFID enabled bank debit card. Not that I trust that either.

remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you
swipe it.

On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and
ended a journey and how long you took...

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:34:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough.

Except "they" have your money... I guess it's to much to ask to pay via a
RFID enabled bank debit card. Not that I trust that either.

They're either working on it or have already done it. Pay at Oyster
rates with a contactless debit card. Checks Already available on the
buses, later this year on the tube apparently.

remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you
swipe it.

On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and
ended a journey and how long you took...

Which is as good a reason as any to dislike it.

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John.

On 13/01/13 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?

You can also buy them at British Rail stations anywhere, either
separately or as an extension to a normal rail ticket. I've bought them
for travel the next day, I don't know whether you can buy them further
ahead than that. The travelcard is a different option from the one that
allows a single journey across London between BR termini.

If you have a railcard you can get a discount on the all-zones
travelcard if you buy from a BR station.

Make sure that you know which underground zones you want to use. Note
that any travelcard also works as a bus pass and bus travel is not
limited to just the zones shown on the travelcard.

Just to complete the picture for anyone else planning on using public
transport around London there is also the Oyster card. This is a
prepayment card that is usable on all of the London transport network.
You can either pre-charge it with credit and pay for single journeys, or
precharge it with a travelcard in which case it works just like the
paper travelcard. If you are travelling around London for more than a
few days it pays to get an Oyster, even though you have to pay £4 for
the card itself. Single journeys using Oyster are cheaper than the same
journeys paid for with cash so you can save the £4 in two days.

--
Bernard Peek

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:06:59 +0000, DerbyBorn wrote:

Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard
for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in
postage costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to
(Could be Green Park)?

When I've travelled into London, you can book from my local Rail station
direct to an Underground station - I collect the tickets from the
station, and it prints the appropriate travelcard ...

On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage
costs.

Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could
be Green Park)?

yes from counter or from machine

On Friday, January 18, 2013 3:58:18 PM UTC, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:

Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for

the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage

costs.



Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could

be Green Park)?



yes from counter or from machine

Once you've got an oystercard and reqistar it on line you can go for auto top up which means when it goes below £10 IIRC it adds £20 via you bank account or credit/debit card. I normmaly nominate a particualar station to collect my travel card but I think pay as you go can be collected on buses.