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Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for
the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? |
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DerbyBorn writes Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? Yes. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14433.aspx -- Simon 12) The Second Rule of Expectations An EXPECTATION is a Premeditated resentment. |
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DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? Pretty certain they can be bought at any tube station or overground one. -- *Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You *may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.] -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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: On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You *may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.] Bus - arriving at Park Lane. I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available at all Ticket Offices and many machines. Fingers crossed! |
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"DerbyBorn" wrote in message 18.142... Roger Mills wrote in : On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You *may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.] Bus - arriving at Park Lane. I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available at all Ticket Offices and many machines. Fingers crossed! You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you will be using. And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the people that live there get them? tim |
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: "DerbyBorn" wrote in message 18.142... Roger Mills wrote in : On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You *may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.] Bus - arriving at Park Lane. I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available at all Ticket Offices and many machines. Fingers crossed! You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you will be using. And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the people that live there get them? tim I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops and that some stations were maybe all automated. Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave. |
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writes "DerbyBorn" wrote in message . 118.142... Roger Mills wrote in : On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You *may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.] Bus - arriving at Park Lane. I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available at all Ticket Offices and many machines. Fingers crossed! You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you will be using. And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the people that live there get them? The Oyster card is a yet unsolved mystery to me and I only live 20 miles away! -- Tim Lamb |
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On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote:
Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? Mornington Crescent. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:53:43 +0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote: On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? Mornington Crescent. You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved mystery a few seconds earlier..." -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:49:13 GMT, DerbyBorn wrote:
I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops and that some stations were maybe all automated. If if they are fully automated I'm pretty sure the machines will sell you a travecard for which ever zones you need. Might not be wise to try this in the rush hour as reading the instructions, following them, pressing the right buttons, feeding the money in, etc will be a slow process compared to the commuter who does it all on autopilot. Mind you how many people who use the London Transport system more than a couple of times a week don't have a Oyster card? Sorry my question seemed a bit niave. Not at all. The London Transport system is a mystery to me with zones, cards, shellfish, congestion charges, pollution control areas etc etc. If you haven't already bought the bus tickets you may well find that there are some good deals with combined long distance bus ticket, TfL travel card, and admission to some attractions. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote: Not at all. The London Transport system is a mystery to me with zones, cards, shellfish, congestion charges, pollution control areas etc etc. Zones are roughly concentric areas from the centre of London. If you're a tourist and sticking to the centre, you'd not need a card that allows you to go anywhere. Similarly, if you live in the suburbs, you may want one which allows local travel only, without paying for them all. The Oyster card is merely a pre-payment debit card which is 'swiped' when used. It gives a considerable discount over paying cash. You needn't concern yourself with the CC and pollution control areas if using PT -- *Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , Graham.
writes On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 12:53:43 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? Mornington Crescent. You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved mystery a few seconds earlier..." Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards however.... I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , Graham. writes You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved mystery a few seconds earlier..." Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards however.... I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... Bus and tram fares are a fixed price per ride no matter what the distance is. For most other trips, you touch in and touch out, and the system deducts the calculated fare from the credit on your card as you leave the station. There is, with exceptions, a daily maximum equivalent to the cost of buying a one day travel card to cover the journeys you've made, http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...r2.12.2011.pdf -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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In message , at 14:07:33 on Sun, 13 Jan
2013, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked: The Oyster card is merely a pre-payment debit card which is 'swiped' when used. It gives a considerable discount over paying cash. It's more than that, you can load season tickets onto it. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 14:34:45 on
Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Tim Lamb remarked: Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Not since 1998. -- Roland Perry |
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On 13/01/13 11:29, DerbyBorn wrote:
Bus - arriving at Park Lane. You do realise how long those buses can take to get into Park Lane? On a bad traffic day you can wait a long, long time just in the last few miles to your destination. |
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Tim Lamb wrote: I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey. No different from showing your ticket at either end. -- *Go the extra mile. It makes your boss look like an incompetent slacker * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:21:21 +0000, Dom Ostrowski
wrote: On 13/01/13 11:29, DerbyBorn wrote: Bus - arriving at Park Lane. You do realise how long those buses can take to get into Park Lane? On a bad traffic day you can wait a long, long time just in the last few miles to your destination. I use these buses quite a lot and IME while, yes, the last part of the journey is often a crawl, this is factored into the timetables and the bus should arrive within reasonable limits of the timetabled time. Last time I arrived twenty minutes early; before that, on time. Occasionally it all goes pear-shaped, but not often. Nick |
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writes "DerbyBorn" wrote in message . 118.142... Roger Mills wrote in : On 13/01/2013 10:06, DerbyBorn wrote: Going on a visit to London with Grandson and want to buy a TravelCard for the Tube. I can easily do this on line but it will add on £2:50 in postage costs. Does anyone know if I can buy one at the first Tube Station I go to (Could be Green Park)? How are you getting to London? If going by train, you can buy a tube pass with your rail ticket at the station you're starting from. [You *may* even be able to buy one from your local railway station even if you're not going by train - not sure about that one.] Bus - arriving at Park Lane. I kept getting directed to sites that wanted to send me tickets (Visitor Shop) - but I found on the TfL site that the tickets should be available at all Ticket Offices and many machines. Fingers crossed! You need to make sure that you buy the right one for the zones that you will be using. And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the people that live there get them? At the local village station, they only seem to sell an 'all-zone' Travelcard (zones 1 to 6 - but maybe excluding Heathrow?). £23 covers the return fare to the London terminus station, and unlimited travel on the underground and London buses. Off-peak (leave here after 09:30, but return at any time) is cheaper. -- Ian |
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DerbyBorn wrote:
I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops and that some stations were maybe all automated. Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave. Going to London myself only once or twice a year, I generally buy a one day travel card, £6ish the last few times, now it has gone up to £7.30 iirc. Last time I went, I only used one bus, and walked everywhere else, making the £6ish ticket rather expensive. Oyster is looking more attractive, if you are intending to come back another day in the future. IIRC, it costs £10, £5 (refundable, eventually) deposit, and £5 toward the fare. These figures may be slightly wrong,as it is a couple of months ago when I looked into it. You can top up the card automatically if needed. The TFL website is not the clearest, well, certainly wasnt for me, but if you keep looking there, you will find the details. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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In message , at 16:03:14 on Sun, 13
Jan 2013, Ian Jackson remarked: At the local village station, they only seem to sell an 'all-zone' Travelcard It varies, here's an example of a journey where a Z1-4 Travelcard is available as a daily ticket, plus Z2-5 (etc) for seven-day ones: http://www.brfares.com/#fares?orig=IFD&dest=ZCW&rlc= OK, Ilford isn't a "village station", but we can probably find one that does have more than (the admittedly common) just the Z1-6 ticket available. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 15:46:41 on Sun, 13 Jan
2013, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked: I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey. Not on the bus, because people are just not well enough conditioned to swiping when they get off. So buses are a flat fare. No different from showing your ticket at either end. Which you don't tend to do on a bus. -- Roland Perry |
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writes Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Graham. writes You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved mystery a few seconds earlier..." Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards however.... I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... Bus and tram fares are a fixed price per ride no matter what the distance is. For most other trips, you touch in and touch out, and the system deducts the calculated fare from the credit on your card as you leave the station. There is, with exceptions, a daily maximum equivalent to the cost of buying a one day travel card to cover the journeys you've made, http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...und-with-oyste r2.12.2011.pdf I'm not going to let having this information spoil the rest of my life! Ignoring foreign holidays, I can't remember when I last climbed the steps of a bus:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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writes In message , at 14:34:45 on Sun, 13 Jan 2013, Tim Lamb remarked: Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Not since 1998. Really? Probably about the last time I used London Underground. Oh yes. Why does no one tell me these things! -- Tim Lamb |
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I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops
and that some stations were maybe all automated. Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave. If I go to London from Cambridge I get a travel card that covers the rail trip then the tube and buses at Cambridge station, but I believe you can get the same from most any manned tube station.. -- Tony Sayer |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:34:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:
I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. Except "they" have your money... I guess it's to much to ask to pay via a RFID enabled bank debit card. Not that I trust that either. remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and ended a journey and how long you took... -- Cheers Dave. |
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:34:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. Except "they" have your money... I guess it's to much to ask to pay via a RFID enabled bank debit card. Not that I trust that either. They're either working on it or have already done it. Pay at Oyster rates with a contactless debit card. Checks Already available on the buses, later this year on the tube apparently. remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and ended a journey and how long you took... Which is as good a reason as any to dislike it. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 13/01/2013 16:03, Ian Jackson wrote:
At the local village station, they only seem to sell an 'all-zone' Travelcard (zones 1 to 6 - but maybe excluding Heathrow?). £23 covers the return fare to the London terminus station, and unlimited travel on the underground and London buses. Off-peak (leave here after 09:30, but return at any time) is cheaper. Excludes some of the extreme stations in the Chilterns - e.g. Amersham. Maybe inter alia. -- Rod |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:29:39 +0000, John Williamson
wrote: Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:34:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. Except "they" have your money... I guess it's to much to ask to pay via a RFID enabled bank debit card. Not that I trust that either. They're either working on it or have already done it. Pay at Oyster rates with a contactless debit card. Checks Already available on the buses, later this year on the tube apparently. remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and ended a journey and how long you took... Which is as good a reason as any to dislike it. You don't have to register your oyster card or load it from a debit card: you can pay for it all in cash. Then they will know that somebody made the journey but they won't know who. Nick |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:54:52 +0000, Nick Odell wrote:
On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and ended a journey and how long you took... Which is as good a reason as any to dislike it. You don't have to register your oyster card or load it from a debit card: you can pay for it all in cash. Then they will know that somebody made the journey but they won't know who. But they will know which card made the journey and if "they" find that card on you... -- Cheers Dave. |
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Nick Odell wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 17:29:39 +0000, John Williamson wrote: Dave Liquorice wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:34:45 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote: I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. Except "they" have your money... I guess it's to much to ask to pay via a RFID enabled bank debit card. Not that I trust that either. They're either working on it or have already done it. Pay at Oyster rates with a contactless debit card. Checks Already available on the buses, later this year on the tube apparently. remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. On the tube you beep in and beep out. "They" know where you started and ended a journey and how long you took... Which is as good a reason as any to dislike it. You don't have to register your oyster card or load it from a debit card: you can pay for it all in cash. Then they will know that somebody made the journey but they won't know who. Ah, I thought that you had to supply some form of ID to buy one, as you used to for a season ticket. Then again, with the new CCTV linked software, they can follow you anyway, as and when they get it up and running. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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A.Lee wrote: Going to London myself only once or twice a year, I generally buy a one day travel card, £6ish the last few times, now it has gone up to £7.30 iirc. Last time I went, I only used one bus, and walked everywhere else, making the £6ish ticket rather expensive. You can still pay for each journey in cash. Dunno for how much longer. -- *I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:55:54 +0000, tony sayer wrote:
I was beginning to think that there wers some Visitor / Transport Shops and that some stations were maybe all automated. Only been to London on business in recent years and a ticket was always provided for me. Sorry my question seemed a bit niave. If I go to London from Cambridge I get a travel card that covers the rail trip then the tube and buses at Cambridge station, but I believe you can get the same from most any manned tube station.. Yes, if going in 'overground' that's a good deal. £3.50 surcharge for a Tube travelchard for the central zones at least. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:52:21 +0000, John Williamson wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote: In message , Graham. writes You're thinking "If only Tim Lamb had posted about his unsolved mystery a few seconds earlier..." Mornington Crescent has been closed for some time. Oyster cards however.... I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... Bus and tram fares are a fixed price per ride no matter what the distance is. For most other trips, you touch in and touch out, and the system deducts the calculated fare from the credit on your card as you leave the station. There is, with exceptions, a daily maximum equivalent to the cost of buying a one day travel card to cover the journeys you've made, http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...g-around-with- oyster2.12.2011.pdf That leaflet is actually out of date (well, the prices are). -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 13/01/2013 12:10, tim..... wrote:
And of course you can buy them when you get there. How do you think the people that live there get them? They don't. They use an Oyster card. Which BTW I was advised against as visitors make mistakes. Andy |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:44:03 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , A.Lee wrote: Going to London myself only once or twice a year, I generally buy a one day travel card, £6ish the last few times, now it has gone up to £7.30 iirc. Last time I went, I only used one bus, and walked everywhere else, making the £6ish ticket rather expensive. You can still pay for each journey in cash. Dunno for how much longer. Yes, but at £4.50 a throw. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:46:41 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Tim Lamb wrote: I see elsewhere it is a prepayment card which seems simple enough. There remains the mystery of how it might know where you are going when you swipe it. Possibly fares are fixed? Perhaps you tell the driver who sets the payment... You swipe at the beginning and end of the journey. No different from showing your ticket at either end. But they know who you are. Although, in theory, if you bought a ticket with a credit/debit card, they could still track you... But difficult to get black helicopters down there. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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In article ,
John Williamson wrote: Ah, I thought that you had to supply some form of ID to buy one, as you used to for a season ticket. Nah, you can get them from vending machines and pay cash. Saying that, I did exactly that when up in London before Christmas and as my wife had my oystercard I decided to get another (handy to both have one). Bloody vending machine gave me one with Will and Kate on - some poxy royal wedding branded one. SWMBO thinks this amusing, and won't give mine back now. I guess they use the vending machines to get rid of old tat versions :) Darren |
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